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Tw2ntyTwo · 1 September 2011, 02:46 AM

What are these worth now a days anyway? Currently getting it authenticated, but I just got one. Black Dial with White Sub Dials.

Any Clue?

Kyle

RLX-lvr · 1 September 2011, 03:33 AM

Hi Kyle;

Very hard to tell with that picture.
Going to need a shot straight on of the dial, as close as your camera will focus.

Submarino · 1 September 2011, 03:44 AM

That's pretty beat up. More pics would help. As mentioned by Jeff, especially the one straight on the dial.

Passionata · 1 September 2011, 03:49 AM

PN is a minefield ,very very detailed macros required

Tw2ntyTwo · 1 September 2011, 03:53 AM

Unfortunately the watch just took a trip to a collector with my boss so i cant get any more pictures right now. Figure I would ask you boys on the forums since the knowledge on here impresses me daily. The dial condition is untouched and flawless from what I saw. Crystal is scratched from normal wear, but no cracks or chips. The bracelet was replaced a long time ago by the owner, and doesn't have box or papers, he believes they may have been lost while moving, or he just threw them away at some point (owner had no idea the watch was special since he only paid $200 for it when he bought it from his friend in 1975).

Tw2ntyTwo · 1 September 2011, 03:56 AM

Wish I could grab more pictures :(

harry in montreal · 1 September 2011, 06:30 AM

man, i just love the scratched up look of that thing. i dont like when they are all polished and shiny. Tell your boss i will give him 200$ and a tow for that clunker.

drockadam · 1 September 2011, 06:48 AM

Looks very nice!

Tw2ntyTwo · 1 September 2011, 07:39 AM

We got $47,000 for it with no bracelet or box

Cosmographer · 1 September 2011, 08:28 AM

Very nice find and sale!

Michael M. · 1 September 2011, 08:53 AM

Pretty good investment if you ask me ($200-$47,000)

I think $47,000 was a fair price, based on the current condition & assuming its all correct

Yazo · 1 September 2011, 09:31 AM

You've got to let me know when that is back in your shop!!

Rolex2 · 2 September 2011, 12:45 PM

A little Paul Newman Daytona history:

The watch worn by Newman for 35 years was a black face Oyster Daytona 6263 given to him by his wife in 1972, when they were making the race car movie, "Winning". It had the regular subdials.

The watch pictured is a 6239 vintage watch from the 60s--with the "Newman" subdials.
Oyster versions (6263, 6264,6265) appeared in the 70s with the same chrono dials.
There are examples in Imai of 6263s with and without the Newman dials.

Why are the Newmans so valuable? Because they are rare, and also because of the Newman name attached to them. They are still a cult watch in Italy.

Newman himself said he had no idea why the subdial bore his name, though he did do advertising for Rolex wearing the watch at some point.

SWIMPRUF · 3 September 2011, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael M.

Pretty good investment if you ask me ($200-$47,000)

1 September 2011, 02:46 AM	#1
Tw2ntyTwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Kyle Location: East Coast, USA Watch: 116610 Posts: 74	6239 Paul Newman Value? What are these worth now a days anyway? Currently getting it authenticated, but I just got one. Black Dial with White Sub Dials. Any Clue? Kyle

1 September 2011, 03:44 AM	#3
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	That's pretty beat up. More pics would help. As mentioned by Jeff, especially the one straight on the dial. __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

1 September 2011, 03:49 AM	#4
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1 September 2011, 06:48 AM	#8
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	Looks very nice! __________________ - Adam Instagram: @GMTSUBTIME

1 September 2011, 03:33 AM	#2
RLX-lvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Toronto Posts: 1,947	Hi Kyle; Very hard to tell with that picture. Going to need a shot straight on of the dial, as close as your camera will focus.

1 September 2011, 03:53 AM	#5
Tw2ntyTwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Kyle Location: East Coast, USA Watch: 116610 Posts: 74	Unfortunately the watch just took a trip to a collector with my boss so i cant get any more pictures right now. Figure I would ask you boys on the forums since the knowledge on here impresses me daily. The dial condition is untouched and flawless from what I saw. Crystal is scratched from normal wear, but no cracks or chips. The bracelet was replaced a long time ago by the owner, and doesn't have box or papers, he believes they may have been lost while moving, or he just threw them away at some point (owner had no idea the watch was special since he only paid $200 for it when he bought it from his friend in 1975).

1 September 2011, 03:56 AM	#6
Tw2ntyTwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Kyle Location: East Coast, USA Watch: 116610 Posts: 74	Wish I could grab more pictures :(

1 September 2011, 06:30 AM	#7
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	man, i just love the scratched up look of that thing. i dont like when they are all polished and shiny. Tell your boss i will give him 200$ and a tow for that clunker.

1 September 2011, 07:39 AM	#9
Tw2ntyTwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Kyle Location: East Coast, USA Watch: 116610 Posts: 74	We got $47,000 for it with no bracelet or box

1 September 2011, 08:28 AM	#10
Cosmographer Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Bret Location: IL Watch: Daytona SS 1988 Posts: 85	Very nice find and sale!

1 September 2011, 08:53 AM	#11
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Pretty good investment if you ask me ($200-$47,000) I think $47,000 was a fair price, based on the current condition & assuming its all correct

1 September 2011, 09:31 AM	#12
Yazo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,812	You've got to let me know when that is back in your shop!!

2 September 2011, 12:45 PM	#13
Rolex2 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: PA, USA Posts: 164	A little Paul Newman Daytona history: The watch worn by Newman for 35 years was a black face Oyster Daytona 6263 given to him by his wife in 1972, when they were making the race car movie, "Winning". It had the regular subdials. The watch pictured is a 6239 vintage watch from the 60s--with the "Newman" subdials. Oyster versions (6263, 6264,6265) appeared in the 70s with the same chrono dials. There are examples in Imai of 6263s with and without the Newman dials. Why are the Newmans so valuable? Because they are rare, and also because of the Newman name attached to them. They are still a cult watch in Italy. Newman himself said he had no idea why the subdial bore his name, though he did do advertising for Rolex wearing the watch at some point.

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