Criteria for Rolex collecting-CREDIT ABEL

[mike]

A bit difficult to explain in few words and little space.
As a matter of fact, many books have been written about collecting, its true deep sense, and the internal personal reasons which actually dictates the behaviour of a collector.
After all, collectors have existed for centuries!
There are also books covering collections of many objects, and the usual "rules" which govern the gathering a true collection.

In my personal point of view, whichever is your interest in collecting, from stamps, knives, guns, art pieces or watches, you should distinguish between accumulating pieces, and real collecting.

True collectors usually gather pieces with a connection or story in common. A collection "must tell something" which connects the pieces together. It usually requires speciallizing
in a variant, or model.
A collection "tells a story" to the viewer: the story of a development, the different models of certain brand, the evolution of a particular model, etc.

Speciallizing has its strong points.
It let´s concentrate your budget focused in one direction, instead of spreading in other objectives. Available money never seems to be enough and helps to use it well!

Speciallizing helps also to center your attention studying efforts, reading, etc. in one specific area. Studying books, reading and knowing well your object of desire, is of superlative importance to a true collector.
Helps to recognize and find pieces, its variants, to detect fakes, and also to know about market values.
Specializing allows you to concentrate efforts, budget and attention, and also allows to more profitable use of your time and hard work required.

As an example of difference between collection and accumulation:

You could get a collection of Diver´s watches of many brands.
Or a collection of divers´ watches from Rolex, from the first models to the last ones.
You could collect Rolex "Bubblebacks".
You can specialize in Rolex GMT variants since its introduction up to day models.
You may wish to collect "chronographs" of different top end brands made under certain period of time.
Any of these could be called "a collection".

Now, accumulating, means buying what you see, what you like and can afford, without paying any real attention to follow "a line".
The pieces of your accumulation do not follow "a string" and says nothing to an occasional viewer, except telling which was the course of your fancy when you bought such or such watch.
You can buy different watches of many brands, or any of the several models of same brand (e.g. Rolex) just to satisfy your desire and own personal "gusto".

This is nothing bad IMHO, but not collecting, just gathering.

Of course, every true collector brakes from time to time, the rule of buying only what it´s related with his serious collection, and buys something his fancy dictates.
There is no Law prohibiting that! So you can brake the rules. Aren´t they made to be broken anyway?

I´m not watch collector, though Rolex is my favorite brand, and like Rolex dive watches in special, but I got some other brands which I really like, and other Rolex models I love.

By the other hand I´m an antique gun and knife collector, and know this branch of collecting very well, as well as having connections with collectors world wide, and the rules are similar to what I have written here.
Also know well other objects collectors (stamps collectors, electric train collectors, pen collectors, etc.) and this general division between true serious collectors and accumulators, always apply.

I guess most important thing in collecting or gathering, is enjoying what you do, and enjoy what you buy, and feeling happy with both your pieces, and the sharing of the experience with other fellow collectors. This human connection, is always rewarding, and help to make more enjoyable this activity.
Feeling happy oneself, is also a final goal in pursuing your collecting (or just gathering).

Hope this personal point of view helps a little to answer your question, and I´m sure other TRF friends will bring here their own views, and experience.

Best kind regards, Abel
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[Rolesium]

Thank you for clarifying the difference between "collecting" and "accumulating." It is important!

[ob1]

Superb post from Abel I saved a copy of the original post.
Mark

[Subexplorer]

Rolesium,
Mark:

Thank you for your kind comments!! It´s a pleasure to share my feelings about this matter with TRF friends!
Very cordially, Abel

[umster]

Excellent post Abel,

Best Regards

Umster

[allanofcalifornia]

Well, I do a lot of accumulation! A whole houseful!


Allan

[Subexplorer]

With some delay in answering:
Umster: Thanks!!
Allan: Enjoy your accumulation in good health!!

Kind regards, Abel

[crushnbugs]

Wow that is so true!

I do a little of both, mostly accumulate now.

Now after reading that I want to thin out my accumulation and hone it more into a collection!

[Satsu]

Great post/article Abel. Really enjoyed reading it.

[ParisDakarBmw]

Great reading! It changes how I look at the hobby. Thanks!

[Subexplorer]

Thank you friends! I´m delighted to know you enjoy reading!
Very cordially, Abel

[EchoBlueUK]

Under this definition: I think accumulating is healthier than collecting. I think its a bit nerdy to have many variants of the same piece. IMHO of course.

[Puffy]

sounds like i'm a mixture of both...

[carlitos1020]

very helpful explanation !!

[scotiatime]

I go for the best deal available. A rolex presidential for $5000 in any shape is a better option than a common gmt or submariner. anyone remember the pawnstars episide where one went for $4000 ? he said the i) bracelet being aftermarket ii) dial being diamond studded cut the value of the watch considerably. I don't agree with that assessment, presidential watches don't really have much collectibility value. it's more the instrinsic value :)

[raymz]

Great read, thanks for sharing.

[MT_Timepieces]

Great read

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[mhunt1014]

Purpose behind the purchase

[TDKEV]

great reading!

[MikeSunWest]

Great way to define both terms. Thanks


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[TMEwatch11]

Excellent post Abel...
Thank you for clarifying the difference between "collecting" and "accumulating." It is important!
Great clarification....

[crazymcmichael]

I just like watches and buy almost nothing as you must have been shaped with a incredible net worth to really collect Rolex watches the way you describe collecting
So a occasional buy once in a year or so would be good and for me it isnt important what i add but what to enjoy and wear. If i collected for reason above ot would be safe queens that are purely worthy collectibles

[Tjp730]

This is particularly interesting, especially with more and more collection revieew you see on youtube nowadays. I think there is a fine line to draw between collecting and accumulating - however, I wouldn't say they are always mutually exclusive. I think one can think deeply and reason out why certain acquisitions are made, even if they aren't part of a specific "thread" that you speak of. For example, I would not consider John Mayer anything short of a collector. He knows the reasons behind why he wanted each watch, he is well versed in their histories, and he makes sure there is a story behind all of them.

Maybe I am missing something?

[dawg4ever]

thanks for sharing your viewpoints Mike. very interesting and informative for a newbie like me.

[balanceoftime]

A great explanation for sure!

[brandrea]

I’m not so sure to be honest … sound complicated to me

I think of a collector as someone who has an appreciation of all things horological. The collection could consist of just about anything IMHO. It’s a very individual thing.

[sgwatchobsession]

Very interesting points. Thanks for the post

[Aashi]

Originally Posted by ParisDakarBmw

Great reading! It changes how I look at the hobby. Thanks!

Hi friend
I'm thrilled to hear that the reading had such a positive impact on how you perceive the hobby. It's always refreshing when something can shift our perspectives. You're very welcome, and happy exploring!networth

[Halls506]

Very cool! Thanks for posting this !