The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10 November 2024, 06:30 AM   #1
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
The AD doesn’t care about us

My wife and I buy a fair amount of luxury goods. We are registered and regularly see three high quality ADs for some nice watches and our spend history exceeds a small country’s gross domestic product. ��

It’s our 27th anniversary today. Our sales associates know us well, and have all our milestones recorded including dates of our kids birthdays and graduation dates and all that relevant data for their CRM systems.

Guess what?

Not a single call. Not a single email. Nothing today. We asked about eight months ago for his and her day dates. Nothing.

But we did get an email from the BMW dealer and the Mercedes dealer wishing us a hard happy anniversary. And we got a call from Cartier wishing us a happy anniversary. And we got calls from Hermes and my wife’s SA at Neiman Markus.

It seems like those luxury vendors use their CRM systems to build customer relationships and engagement like one would expect.

Rolex, nope. Nothing.

They call. When they have stuff to sell us.

Almost never stuff on our list. Only twice in about three years have they called with watches we requested. We have even bought when they called about stuff we didn’t request.

Pretty much done with Rolex. This was the straw.

Got my wife a nice Hermes birkin bag. Rolex.

Last edited by Lol-x; 10 November 2024 at 03:22 PM.. Reason: Language
NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 06:34 AM   #2
JoseR
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Philly.
Watch: Air King, Omega AT
Posts: 2,256
You're just $$$ for Rolex AD's. Don't think they personally care about anyone, just the mighty dollar.
__________________
Air King 116900
Omega AT41 Gray Dial/Leather
Oris Pointer Date Roberto Clemente LE
JoseR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 06:34 AM   #3
OTX
"TRF" Member
 
OTX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Twilight Zone
Posts: 583
Seems to me you have been taken for granted somewhat. They see you as a usual customer so they don’t have to work hard to get your business. It could have been an honest mistake but I would contact management and bring it up. I promise you that they will take you very seriously from now on. Sometimes they need a reminder.
OTX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 06:38 AM   #4
nukeandjuke
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: California
Posts: 8
I’ll trade u any watch u want for that birkin
nukeandjuke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 06:42 AM   #5
brandrea
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
brandrea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Brian (TBone)
Location: canada
Watch: es make me smile
Posts: 77,541
You clearly haven’t spent enough
brandrea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 06:44 AM   #6
Vince_76
"TRF" Member
 
Vince_76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Orange County
Posts: 1,889
Unfortunate. Lesson here is don’t be a mark and stop pandering to ADs (not saying that’s you, but that’s what the takeaway is). Hopefully you only bought stuff you actually wanted except for going on the “journey” aka bleeding your pockets

Good on you for voting with your wallet and getting the birkin!!
__________________
AP 15500ST (Silver) // ♛ Rolex 126334 (Blue Roman, Fluted, Jubilee) // Ω Moonswatch (Mission to Pluto) // G-Shock GA2100-1A1
Vince_76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 06:50 AM   #7
WatchGuy1966
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Location Location
Posts: 1,791
Reminds me of the song

"Lookin' for love in all the wrong places"
WatchGuy1966 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 07:26 AM   #8
joli160
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
joli160's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NL
Watch: Yachtmaster
Posts: 14,707
Cartier and Hermes also don’t really care about you but at least give you the feeling they do.
These brands are a few levels higher and still believe in customer satisfaction
__________________
Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.
joli160 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 07:27 AM   #9
jamesgames
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: USA
Posts: 31
Well at the end of the day I think you are upset because you had high expectations for a certain level of catering from them and you didnt get it. Rolex doesn't need your business and they act like it - unfortunate but that's what happens as a function of supply / demand.
jamesgames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 07:28 AM   #10
173rdabn
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Real Name: George
Location: Cape Cod
Watch: 216570 Explorer II
Posts: 2,407
Finally discovered that they don't give a rat's ass about you, eh?
173rdabn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 07:33 AM   #11
SubDate
"TRF" Member
 
SubDate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: New Hampshire USA
Watch: 126610LN
Posts: 135
Problem is, as soon as that “Mr. Smith we were just reaching out to let you know your new Panda is here for pick up” call comes, 99% of us will go running to their door. Fuels the system.
SubDate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 07:49 AM   #12
kritameth
"TRF" Member
 
kritameth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: USA
Watch: 228238
Posts: 142
Speak for yourself, I get free water!
kritameth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:04 AM   #13
SLWoodster
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: California
Watch: GMT BLNR
Posts: 1,492
It’s interesting you are all those things with so many brands but just buying Rolex.

What’s your Patek and AP experience like?



Quote:
Originally Posted by NAUI1982 View Post
My wife and I buy a fair amount of luxury goods. We are registered and regularly see three high quality ADs for some nice watches and our spend history exceeds a small country’s gross domestic product. 😂

It’s our 27th anniversary today. Our sales associates know us well, and have all our milestones recorded including dates of our kids birthdays and graduation dates and all that relevant data for their CRM systems.

Guess what?

Not a single call. Not a single email. Nothing today. We asked about eight months ago for his and her day dates. Nothing.

But we did get an email from the BMW dealer and the Mercedes dealer wishing us a hard happy anniversary. And we got a call from Cartier wishing us a happy anniversary. And we got calls from Hermes and my wife’s SA at Neiman Markus.

It seems like those luxury vendors use their CRM systems to build customer relationships and engagement like one would expect.

Rolex, nope. Nothing.

They call. When they have stuff to sell us.

Almost never stuff on our list. Only twice in about three years have they called with watches we requested. We have even bought when they called about stuff we didn’t request.

Pretty much done with Rolex. This was the straw.

Got my wife a nice Hermes birkin bag. F_ck Rolex.
SLWoodster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:05 AM   #14
Nice marmot
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: US
Posts: 191
Whether it be Hermes, Cartier, Neiman Marcus, BMW, MB or Rolex, none of these companies actually give a damn about you. If you lost all of your money tomorrow, do you honestly think you would hear from any of these people again? Of course not. It’s all a transactional relationship, it is just more obvious with Rolex because they don’t have to work for sales.
Nice marmot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:19 AM   #15
Calatrava r
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: United States
Watch: Rolex and Patek
Posts: 11,266
Merchants really only care about the next sale. It is how they make their money. If you hear from a merchant out of the blue, sales may be slow.
Calatrava r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:25 AM   #16
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by nukeandjuke View Post
I’ll trade u any watch u want for that birkin
Out of my wife’s cold dead hands. lol.
NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:28 AM   #17
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLWoodster View Post
It’s interesting you are all those things with so many brands but just buying Rolex.

What’s your Patek and AP experience like?
I own one Patek that took me about nine months to get. From WOS who is also one of my Rolex AD.

Not buying AP but am waiting for a Vash which will likely come in near my birthday.
NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:29 AM   #18
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nice marmot View Post
Whether it be Hermes, Cartier, Neiman Marcus, BMW, MB or Rolex, none of these companies actually give a damn about you. If you lost all of your money tomorrow, do you honestly think you would hear from any of these people again? Of course not. It’s all a transactional relationship, it is just more obvious with Rolex because they don’t have to work for sales.
Beg to differ. Have had a relationship with our car dealers for 25 years. They absolutely care about us as customers and show us every time we get a car. They want us for the long term.
NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:34 AM   #19
Cambo
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Real Name: Cam
Location: North of 49th
Watch: Rolex/Grand Seiko
Posts: 1,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by NAUI1982 View Post
My wife and I buy a fair amount of luxury goods. We are registered and regularly see three high quality ADs for some nice watches and our spend history exceeds a small country’s gross domestic product. 😂

It’s our 27th anniversary today. Our sales associates know us well, and have all our milestones recorded including dates of our kids birthdays and graduation dates and all that relevant data for their CRM systems.

Guess what?

Not a single call. Not a single email. Nothing today. We asked about eight months ago for his and her day dates. Nothing.

But we did get an email from the BMW dealer and the Mercedes dealer wishing us a hard happy anniversary. And we got a call from Cartier wishing us a happy anniversary. And we got calls from Hermes and my wife’s SA at Neiman Markus.

It seems like those luxury vendors use their CRM systems to build customer relationships and engagement like one would expect.

Rolex, nope. Nothing.

They call. When they have stuff to sell us.

Almost never stuff on our list. Only twice in about three years have they called with watches we requested. We have even bought when they called about stuff we didn’t request.

Pretty much done with Rolex. This was the straw.

Got my wife a nice Hermes birkin bag. F_ck Rolex.
Was this “Rolex” or your AD?
I’m pretty sure Rolex isn’t losing sleep over this.

“ Small country’s gross domestic product”
Nice Flex
__________________
16618 126710BLRO 116500 LN (White) 228235 228239
SBGK002
Cambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:35 AM   #20
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calatrava r View Post
Merchants really only care about the next sale. It is how they make their money. If you hear from a merchant out of the blue, sales may be slow.
Merchants, yes.
Luxury brands are a different story. We know. Rolex is NOT a luxury brand. They’re a mass market tool watch and their dealers are massive game players who give zero care about their watch buyers. 2000 dealer network and 1.5 million watches a year and we still can’t buy what we want.

Unless the AD is also a jewelry store and then they care about your diamond purchases.

Don’t try to defend the practices. Admit you’re sick of the games too. It’s okay. You can let it out.

Last edited by Lol-x; 10 November 2024 at 02:32 PM.. Reason: Language!!
NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:39 AM   #21
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandrea View Post
You clearly haven’t spent enough

NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:44 AM   #22
WatchGuy1966
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Location Location
Posts: 1,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by NAUI1982 View Post
Beg to differ. Have had a relationship with our car dealers for 25 years. They absolutely care about us as customers and show us every time we get a car. They want us for the long term.

Companies don't care. Individuals might find it pleasant to transact with you. They might like your personality or connect. But care is not the right word to use. It's transactional, but they are focused on the next and next transaction. They "want" your next orders and your referral and they will "act" in a manner that you "feel" like you are "cared" for. But they aren't going to take truly "care" enough to do anything about it if you are down and out.
WatchGuy1966 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:46 AM   #23
Sydny2
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Chicago
Watch: SubC, GMT, Daytona
Posts: 265
Quote:
Originally Posted by nukeandjuke View Post
I’ll trade u any watch u want for that birkin
I could trade you my birkin for your watch ;)
Sydny2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:49 AM   #24
KatGirl
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
KatGirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Real Name: Kat
Location: CA, USA
Watch: 126233 Wimbledon T
Posts: 7,081
The AD doesn’t care about us

Quote:
Originally Posted by WatchGuy1966 View Post
Reminds me of the song

"Lookin' for love in all the wrong places"

That made me laugh out loud! OP, It is very likely your AD did not have the matching watches you requested. I’m not sure why you are taking it so personally. It’s a business relationship. You obviously have the means to buy from the secondary market, so just buy the Day Dates, which are probably cheaper, when you go grey. Happy Anniversary!

Kat


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
KatGirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:52 AM   #25
JRell
"TRF" Member
 
JRell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Pittsburgh
Watch: 126710BLNR Jubilee
Posts: 7,053
Sounds like a bad AD. Love mine. Treats me with respect, doesn’t ask for me to buy anything I don’t want to, and gets me what I want.
__________________
126710 BLNR Jubilee
JRell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 08:53 AM   #26
996marty
"TRF" Member
 
996marty's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Uk
Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928
Posts: 4,143
It goes to show most big companies or sales assistants will do anything for you to spend money with them clearly Rolex don’t need to do that
996marty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 09:20 AM   #27
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by kritameth View Post
Speak for yourself, I get free water!
Awesome! That’s why we stop in and say hi when we’re out and about. Need the water.
NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 09:25 AM   #28
NAUI1982
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
NAUI1982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Real Name: Doug
Location: USA East Coast
Watch: GMT-Master II
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by KatGirl View Post
That made me laugh out loud! OP, It is very likely your AD did not have the matching watches you requested. I’m not sure why you are taking it so personally. It’s a business relationship. You obviously have the means to buy from the secondary market, so just buy the Day Dates, which are probably cheaper, when you go grey. Happy Anniversary!

Kat


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Thanks Kat.

Blue Hombre is still hard to get even grey but the saddest part is I can ask my TD to get them and he would have them within a few days brand new in box out the back door of an AD.
NAUI1982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 09:27 AM   #29
2001jesper
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Real Name: Jesper
Location: Earth
Watch: 116234
Posts: 1,757
We all have different expectations - But seems a little much to expect them to call on all birthdays and anniversaries in your family, i.e., 5-6 times a year?

Regardless, congratulations on the anniversary
2001jesper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 November 2024, 09:28 AM   #30
anodyne13
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 111
No one that’s not friends and family cares if it’s your anniversary. If you’re disappointed that they aren’t “fake caring” enough because you spend a lot of money, I can understand, but certainly wouldn’t be surprised as fake caring can be a bit hit and miss.
anodyne13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Takuya Watches

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

Wrist Aficionado

Asset Appeal

DavidSW Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.