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C.J. · 16 January 2006, 04:06 PM

I went to an AD in Depford, about forty minutes drive from me, on Saturday. After going back and forth with the salesMAN ( figures, no cleavage for me) and getting nowhere I met with the manager. He explained that Rolex was issuing a price increase within the next month or so. Therefor, he would not reduce the list price at all. He said that paying list price now would actually be the same as getting nearly eight percent off of a purchase in the next several weeks.
My GMT was right there in front of me and boy was it beautiful. I could practically hear it screaming my name and telling me to pay the guy already and get it out of that lonely case.
I've bought a NIB Rolex in the past and right away the AD was willing to work with me. Anyway, I wanted to check with you guys and see if this price increase is B/S or not and whether or not you would pay asking price or keep shopping.

TARDIS · 16 January 2006, 04:21 PM

There is talk of a price hike in February CJ. I don't personally know if it's real, but who does? Your AD may have heard the same rumor and is employing this very old sales tactic which to my mind is hackneyed and a bit impolite to someone who wants to trade his hard earned cash for goods. If I were you I'd shop elsewhere.

Cheers
Steve

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

I went to an AD in Depford, about forty minutes drive from me, on Saturday. After going back and forth with the salesMAN ( figures, no cleavage for me) and getting nowhere I met with the manager. He explained that Rolex was issuing a price increase within the next month or so. Therefor, he would not reduce the list price at all. He said that paying list price now would actually be the same as getting nearly eight percent off of a purchase in the next several weeks.
My GMT was right there in front of me and boy was it beautiful. I could practically hear it screaming my name and telling me to pay the guy already and get it out of that lonely case.
I've bought a NIB Rolex in the past and right away the AD was willing to work with me. Anyway, I wanted to check with you guys and see if this price increase is B/S or not and whether or not you would pay asking price or keep shopping.

Try a couple of other ADs as Steve advises. You may get lucky!!

Good luck!!

C.J. · 16 January 2006, 04:40 PM

Thanks guys. I'm going to try a couple of more places on Tuesday, actually one store but two different branches, and see how I do. I gotta tell ya, it's going to be hard walking out again and leaving my honey behind though.
I'd love to find out if this impending price increase is genuine or not. I'm going to feel pretty stupid if I end up paying four to five hundred dollars more for the same watch for dragging my feet.
Anyway, as soon as I get her home I'll try and post some pics. I'm not one of those computer friendly guys, I may end up having to tell you how it looks HA-HA

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

Thanks guys. I'm going to try a couple of more places on Tuesday, actually one store but two different branches, and see how I do. I gotta tell ya, it's going to be hard walking out again and leaving my honey behind though.
I'd love to find out if this impending price increase is genuine or not. I'm going to feel pretty stupid if I end up paying four to five hundred dollars more for the same watch for dragging my feet.
Anyway, as soon as I get her home I'll try and post some pics. I'm not one of those computer friendly guys, I may end up having to tell you how it looks HA-HA

Hey CJ,

Leave your "honey" behind only if there's some good cleavage. Otherwise, take it out with you!!!

C.J. · 16 January 2006, 04:52 PM

Hey,
You may be right JJ, eight percent might not be so bad for good clevage.

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

Hey,
You may be right JJ, eight percent might not be so bad for good clevage.

With Mansor's, I not only get massive discounts off my watches, I also get an eyefull of cleavages!!!

Come to NZ!!

C.J. · 16 January 2006, 05:00 PM

JJ
We have great cleavage in Atlantic City too. The only problem is, it cost alot more than eight percent, there is never a discount and when you wake up you no longer own a Rolex.

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

JJ
We have great cleavage in Atlantic City too. The only problem is, it cost alot more than eight percent, there is never a discount and when you wake up you no longer own a Rolex.

Yeah, but what a way to lose a ROLEX!!!

C.J. · 16 January 2006, 05:12 PM

JJ
You would be right at home in a Roll call room. Are you sure your not a city cop?

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

JJ
You would be right at home in a Roll call room. Are you sure your not a city cop?

LOL!

Far from it...the pay's just not good enough...and the hours are terrible!!!

C.J. · 16 January 2006, 05:21 PM

Yeah!
Tell me about it. That whole fulfillment from helping other S**T went out the window after my first year at rookie pay on midnights.

Gedanken · 16 January 2006, 05:26 PM

Am I missing something here?

CJ, you're planning to buy the watch now, right? Why should next month's prices affect what you pay today?

As far as I can tell, your AD's trying to punish you for buying a watch so close to the POSSIBLE increase in prices. I don't know about you, but common sense would lead me to tell this guy, "You obviously don't wish to have my business, so I'll take it somewhere else, thank you very much".

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 05:32 PM

CJ,

James (Gedanken) does have a point, you know!!

Gedanken · 16 January 2006, 05:35 PM

Damn right, JJ - Hour Glass in Singapore tried the same kind of crap with me and I told them exactly where to stick it. In fact, Watch Palace on the other end of the building (literally 30 seconds' walk away) gave me a $630 discount.

Never, EVER let some slick-talking, scum-sucking, bottom-feeding shyster give you this highfaluting tripe in order to rip you off. You're better off without the GMT for the while that it takes to find someone who won't try to sell you a goddamn bridge instead.

C.J. · 16 January 2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gedanken

Am I missing something here?

CJ, you're planning to buy the watch now, right? Why should next month's prices affect what you pay today?

As far as I can tell, your AD's trying to punish you for buying a watch so close to the POSSIBLE increase in prices. I don't know about you, but common sense would lead me to tell this guy, "You obviously don't wish to have my business, so I'll take it somewhere else, thank you very much".

You're right.
I've bought only one in the past and the AD worked with me right away. I went to that AD first. He did'nt mention the price increase nor did he appear to be unwilling to negotiate, unfortunately, he did'nt have a red and black bezel GMT either.
The AD I mentioned in this post was so dead set against any negotiation that I was'nt sure if it was common for negotiation to cease in the advent of a pending price increase or if it was just a sales tactic.
Nonetheless,I did'nt feel comfortable making that purchase at all.So here I sit without the GMT. Hopefully the next AD works out better. I wanted to be sure That I did'nt walk out on an appropriate price and then end up paying more if this alleged price increase were to go into affect.
Thanks for the advise

Gedanken · 16 January 2006, 05:48 PM

CJ, find an honest dealer, get the GMT, go back to the first schmuck and tell him what he missed. Then tell him you're relating your story to any potential buyer who will listen.

C.J. · 16 January 2006, 05:50 PM

Thanks guys. Hopefully I'll have good news Tuesday.

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

Thanks guys. Hopefully I'll have good news Tuesday.

Good luck, CJ!! If you get the all black bezel, Ed will NEVER ban you from TRF!!!

Gedanken · 16 January 2006, 05:53 PM

All the best, CJ (and welcome aboard, by the way!), and kick whoever's butt till you get as close as you can to 20% off - as it is 17% is not unheard of!

Gedanken · 16 January 2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Good luck, CJ!! If you get the all black bezel, Ed will NEVER ban you from TRF!!!

JJ, Ed can't find the ban button, remember?

JJ Irani · 16 January 2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gedanken

JJ, Ed can't find the ban button, remember?

Yes, of course....he's still trying to recover from that orangepumpkinitis shock I gave him yesterday!!!

Gedanken · 16 January 2006, 06:05 PM

Yuh huh - once he recovers I fear your ass is grass!

16 January 2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

I My GMT was right there in front of me and boy was it beautiful. I could practically hear it screaming my name and telling me to pay the guy already and get it out of that lonely case.

Hey CJ - I think the AD you went to was counting on this feeling from you.

The fact is, the price now is not higher, so if he won't deal now, move on!

mailman · 16 January 2006, 11:46 PM

Exactly CJ. Find an AD that will work with you and isn't such a dink. You'll know when you find one. They'll make you smile just as much as the watch.

Earl · 16 January 2006, 11:54 PM

CJ the guys are right, if the AD you just went to is unwilling to work with you NOW means to me he (the dealer) wants top dollar. Let him stick his nose up at you, you go to another AD find your watch for the price you want to pay and take it back and push it up his nose.

Rockrolex · 17 January 2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gedanken

JJ, Ed can't find the ban button, remember?

Oh, I can find the ban button, all right. It's just that for some reason it doesn't work when I try to use it on our Kiwi friend.

And CJ, the problem you may be running into is that the AD is in AC. How many ADs in casino land do you know are willing to deal? They don't need to.

Go a bit further afield and try an AD outside the AC area. That might work a bit better.

NoVaWatchLvr · 17 January 2006, 01:26 AM

I don't think 17% - 20% is realistic on any sports model in this country......

I would go to another dealer, or buy mint pre-owned and save even more $$$.

Mark · 17 January 2006, 01:53 AM

CJ ..... email me at rev@rolexforums.com . I have a AD in N. Jersey that will work with you and he is a GREAT guy. My cousing has been buying from him for 20+ years and I bought my Rolex from him and I live in FL.

It's no guarantee, but I'd give him a shot.

JIM- · 17 January 2006, 02:07 AM

CJ, best of luck on your hunt to find the GMT at a reasonable price, believe me we all understand.
Your story isn't all that uncommon. In 2004 I bought a Rolex at the local AD and was told the exact same thing when I asked for a discount, it was the buy it now and theres your discount or wait a few months and you'll pay more. I ended up buying it now before the price increase as all the other ADs in my area useed the same sales tactic, at the time it seemed they were all working together or something, I felt like they were calling each other on the phone before I got to their stores cause they all used the price increase line on me. I do know there are some ADs in other states that will discount and you also avoid sales tax, but in my case I wanted to buy it locally just incase there was a problem and I needed service. Anyway it seems these prices increases are the real deal cause two months later the model I bought increased by $400 and just to test the theroy I returned to one of ADs and inquired about the same watch and they wouldn't budge from the new retail price and offered no discount.

My advice would be like the others said try a few more ADs and then go ahead and get the watch you want before the impending increase.

16 January 2006, 04:06 PM	#1
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	I went to see the AD and it didn't go so well I went to an AD in Depford, about forty minutes drive from me, on Saturday. After going back and forth with the salesMAN ( figures, no cleavage for me) and getting nowhere I met with the manager. He explained that Rolex was issuing a price increase within the next month or so. Therefor, he would not reduce the list price at all. He said that paying list price now would actually be the same as getting nearly eight percent off of a purchase in the next several weeks. My GMT was right there in front of me and boy was it beautiful. I could practically hear it screaming my name and telling me to pay the guy already and get it out of that lonely case. I've bought a NIB Rolex in the past and right away the AD was willing to work with me. Anyway, I wanted to check with you guys and see if this price increase is B/S or not and whether or not you would pay asking price or keep shopping.

16 January 2006, 05:26 PM	#13
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Am I missing something here? CJ, you're planning to buy the watch now, right? Why should next month's prices affect what you pay today? As far as I can tell, your AD's trying to punish you for buying a watch so close to the *POSSIBLE* increase in prices. I don't know about you, but common sense would lead me to tell this guy, "You obviously don't wish to have my business, so I'll take it somewhere else, thank you very much". __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

16 January 2006, 05:32 PM	#14
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	CJ, James (Gedanken) does have a point, you know!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

16 January 2006, 05:35 PM	#15
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Damn right, JJ - Hour Glass in Singapore tried the same kind of crap with me and I told them exactly where to stick it. In fact, Watch Palace on the other end of the building (literally 30 seconds' walk away) gave me a $630 discount. Never, EVER let some slick-talking, scum-sucking, bottom-feeding shyster give you this highfaluting tripe in order to rip you off. You're better off without the GMT for the while that it takes to find someone who won't try to sell you a goddamn bridge instead. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

16 January 2006, 05:48 PM	#17
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	CJ, find an honest dealer, get the GMT, go back to the first schmuck and tell him what he missed. Then tell him you're relating your story to any potential buyer who will listen. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

16 January 2006, 04:21 PM	#2
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	There is talk of a price hike in February CJ. I don't personally know if it's real, but who does? Your AD may have heard the same rumor and is employing this very old sales tactic which to my mind is hackneyed and a bit impolite to someone who wants to trade his hard earned cash for goods. If I were you I'd shop elsewhere. Cheers Steve

16 January 2006, 04:40 PM	#4
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Thanks guys. I'm going to try a couple of more places on Tuesday, actually one store but two different branches, and see how I do. I gotta tell ya, it's going to be hard walking out again and leaving my honey behind though. I'd love to find out if this impending price increase is genuine or not. I'm going to feel pretty stupid if I end up paying four to five hundred dollars more for the same watch for dragging my feet. Anyway, as soon as I get her home I'll try and post some pics. I'm not one of those computer friendly guys, I may end up having to tell you how it looks HA-HA

16 January 2006, 04:52 PM	#6
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Hey, You may be right JJ, eight percent might not be so bad for good clevage.

16 January 2006, 05:00 PM	#8
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	JJ We have great cleavage in Atlantic City too. The only problem is, it cost alot more than eight percent, there is never a discount and when you wake up you no longer own a Rolex.

16 January 2006, 05:12 PM	#10
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	JJ You would be right at home in a Roll call room. Are you sure your not a city cop?

16 January 2006, 05:21 PM	#12
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Yeah! Tell me about it. That whole fulfillment from helping other S**T went out the window after my first year at rookie pay on midnights.

16 January 2006, 05:50 PM	#18
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Thanks guys. Hopefully I'll have good news Tuesday.

16 January 2006, 05:53 PM	#20
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	All the best, CJ (and welcome aboard, by the way!), and kick whoever's butt till you get as close as you can to 20% off - as it is 17% is not unheard of! __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

16 January 2006, 06:05 PM	#23
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Yuh huh - once he recovers I fear your ass is grass! __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

16 January 2006, 11:46 PM	#25
mailman TRF Moderator & SUBMARINER 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,491	Exactly CJ. Find an AD that will work with you and isn't such a dink. You'll know when you find one. They'll make you smile just as much as the watch. __________________ JJ

16 January 2006, 11:54 PM	#26
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	CJ the guys are right, if the AD you just went to is unwilling to work with you NOW means to me he (the dealer) wants top dollar. Let him stick his nose up at you, you go to another AD find your watch for the price you want to pay and take it back and push it up his nose.

17 January 2006, 01:26 AM	#28
NoVaWatchLvr Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 40	I don't think 17% - 20% is realistic on any sports model in this country...... I would go to another dealer, or buy mint pre-owned and save even more $$$.

17 January 2006, 01:53 AM	#29
Mark TRF Founder Join Date: Nov 2004 Real Name: Mark Location: Florida Watch: PAM 187 / SS LV Posts: 719	CJ ..... email me at rev@rolexforums.com . I have a AD in N. Jersey that will work with you and he is a GREAT guy. My cousing has been buying from him for 20+ years and I bought my Rolex from him and I live in FL. It's no guarantee, but I'd give him a shot.

17 January 2006, 02:07 AM	#30
JIM- Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 599	CJ, best of luck on your hunt to find the GMT at a reasonable price, believe me we all understand. Your story isn't all that uncommon. In 2004 I bought a Rolex at the local AD and was told the exact same thing when I asked for a discount, it was the buy it now and theres your discount or wait a few months and you'll pay more. I ended up buying it now before the price increase as all the other ADs in my area useed the same sales tactic, at the time it seemed they were all working together or something, I felt like they were calling each other on the phone before I got to their stores cause they all used the price increase line on me. I do know there are some ADs in other states that will discount and you also avoid sales tax, but in my case I wanted to buy it locally just incase there was a problem and I needed service. Anyway it seems these prices increases are the real deal cause two months later the model I bought increased by $400 and just to test the theroy I returned to one of ADs and inquired about the same watch and they wouldn't budge from the new retail price and offered no discount. My advice would be like the others said try a few more ADs and then go ahead and get the watch you want before the impending increase.

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