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Emir Chehab · 29 January 2015, 05:23 PM

Greetings. I know this seems like a weird post, however, I am looking for any opinions or help that I can get regarding Vacheron Constantin. I have just discovered the Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph. It really seems like a sharp watch. Also, I know that Vacheron Constantin has a very rich history in horology. However, I do not ever hear of any VC watches mention in any posts or threads. I do however, hear tons of Patek and AP references. Is there any particular reason why? I am very curious as I am considering selling my SS Yachmaster ii and buying this particular VC. Thanks.

Old Expat Beast · 29 January 2015, 05:49 PM

VC is the third member of the holy trinity (with PP and AP). I'd take one over a YMII for sure.

h999r · 29 January 2015, 05:54 PM

Vacheron is one of the best watchmaker in the world. Overseas chrono loves that model.

Flex368 · 29 January 2015, 06:01 PM

I really like the Overseas and I´d also take one over a YMII.

If it only was 2mm smaller.

997.2 · 29 January 2015, 06:07 PM

Go for the Overseas, YMII is too flashy for my taste

Baco Noir · 29 January 2015, 06:11 PM

VC was founded in 1755 and has a long rich history of making exquisite timepieces. Of the 3 in the holy trinity, VC seems to be sold at the highest discount and have a lower resale as a result, which is why you may not hear it discussed as often. In 1996, they were bought by the Richemont Group and thus are no longer family owned.

I for one, love the VC Overseas and would like to buy one someday.

Sent from my iPad (so I blame autocorrect for the spellin' errs)

capote · 29 January 2015, 06:30 PM

Vacheron Constantin for sure, although I would wait until next year, then it will be a 20 year anniversary for the Overseas line. VC introduced a new inhouse chronograph movement this year. Hopefully that means an update of the OS.

kentheevil · 29 January 2015, 07:06 PM

Vc for suree but depense on what you have if i dont have a rolex yet and want a sport watch i will get the yatch master is a beautiful sport watch

travisb · 29 January 2015, 07:56 PM

Yes this is a Rolex forum but I'd go for the VC in a heartbeat!

Racerdj · 29 January 2015, 08:26 PM

Both watch brands work well together but with your choice, I would go with the VC.

landroverking · 29 January 2015, 09:41 PM

Well as far as chronographs go, I'd take the VC. I think it compares better to the current Daytona. Same layout for the Sub dials.

AK797 · 29 January 2015, 09:58 PM

Any other watches you are considering?

regnant · 29 January 2015, 11:35 PM

YM II
Overseas's present model never grown on me just like only as appeal as Breguet XX model
There are more exquisite VCs available

speedy_master1 · 29 January 2015, 11:45 PM

I personally would not go with Over seas if you are going holy trinity the only one I would go is Royal Oak 15202.

Jari from Finland · 30 January 2015, 02:41 AM

It is difficult decision. Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph is really great watch. I have tried that model on my wrist and I was amazed at its finishing. However, I prefer the YM II over the VC.

Mystro · 30 January 2015, 02:52 AM

The most important factor is the design and which you like better. Everything else means nothing.
If you dont like the design of the VC, PP, or AP they might as well be a door stop.
There is no wrong answer when choosing a watch.

KBM · 30 January 2015, 03:31 AM

I'm not a fan of the large text on the YM bezel. VC for me.

Sixshooter · 30 January 2015, 03:35 AM

The VC is a really cool watch. No contest IMO.

GB-man · 30 January 2015, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kauebm

I'm not a fan of the large text on the YM bezel. VC for me.

Same here. Not so sure about previous comments on VC being most discounted. Seems discounts are very stingy on brand new VC's. Much easier to find discounts on AP in my experience.

Brushpup · 30 January 2015, 03:39 AM

Very different watches, and to my mind, not an equal comparison. If it's down to those two however, you must go with your heart no matter about anything else.

wantonebad · 30 January 2015, 03:45 AM

I love both models and think the world of both makers, I think the YMII is cool as hell but a gold VCOS Chrono is my grail so I can't go with the YMII in this instance.

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MitchSteel · 30 January 2015, 03:55 AM

I had the same dilemma.After some research, I chose the VC, and after considerable wait, one came up for very reasonable price, with a fresh service, and I went for it.
I'll tell you this thing is magnificent.Daytonas are great,no doubt, but everyone and their dog has a Daytona, a VC OS , not so much.
I'd say go for it, you won't regret it.I certainly don't.

rmfnla · 30 January 2015, 04:34 AM

I dislike the YM II so much I'd wear almost anything instead...

breitlings · 30 January 2015, 04:36 AM

I like the YMII out of these two choices, it has an novel in-house movement. Countdown timer is more unique than chronograph.

Manofsteelpt · 30 January 2015, 04:42 AM

My vote goes to the VC too.

wantonebad · 30 January 2015, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breitlings

I like the YMII out of these two choices, it has an novel in-house movement. Countdown timer is more unique than chronograph.

I completely agree with you!

I just think a traditional chronograph is more practical then a 10 minute timer. But don't get me wrong I think the YMII is a remarkable achievement and unique piece in a world of copy-cats!!

johnbeth · 30 January 2015, 05:46 AM

I had a Daytona and the YMII both in solid gold and love the YMII. Also just to make a point, never used the chronograph on the Daytona and never used the egg timer on the YMII as there was never a need. So purely on that, even though the VC has a chrono function, I'm going to say who cares because I will never use it and don't care of that function like some people here seem to have made it an important function compared to the egg timer of the YMII. I prefer the YMII purely on looks, weight and size.

Cru Jones · 30 January 2015, 06:06 AM

Go with what makes you happy. Nothing wrong with switching things up.

Personally, though, if the goal is one of the so-called "holy trinity", I would rather take an AP or PP over VC, since there's that something extra IMHO with haute horlogerie to be independent (VC is now owned by Richemont, same company that owns JLC, IWC, Panerai, Piaget, Cartier and Montblanc, among others).

breitlings · 30 January 2015, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wantonebad

I completely agree with you!

I just think a traditional chronograph is more practical then a 10 minute timer. But don't get me wrong I think the YMII is a remarkable achievement and unique piece in a world of copy-cats!!

true, I do use chrono's a lot in my work (also use the brietling scales, 0-100 is useful for billing).

I have a soft spot for real count down timers since my grandfather was a good sailboat racer. He had all sorts of cool "egg timers" some of those beautiful regatta watches don't tell time, all they do is count down.

As an aside old sailing trophies are beautiful.

Quotron · 30 January 2015, 06:28 AM

Gotta give the vote to the VC as well, it's far less common, and to my eye a nicer looking watch

29 January 2015, 05:23 PM	#1
Emir Chehab "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: USA Posts: 41	Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph vs. Rolex Yachtmaster ii Greetings. I know this seems like a weird post, however, I am looking for any opinions or help that I can get regarding Vacheron Constantin. I have just discovered the Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph. It really seems like a sharp watch. Also, I know that Vacheron Constantin has a very rich history in horology. However, I do not ever hear of any VC watches mention in any posts or threads. I do however, hear tons of Patek and AP references. Is there any particular reason why? I am very curious as I am considering selling my SS Yachmaster ii and buying this particular VC. Thanks.

29 January 2015, 06:11 PM	#6
Baco Noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: Colorado Watch: this ya'll Posts: 4,872	VC was founded in 1755 and has a long rich history of making exquisite timepieces. Of the 3 in the holy trinity, VC seems to be sold at the highest discount and have a lower resale as a result, which is why you may not hear it discussed as often. In 1996, they were bought by the Richemont Group and thus are no longer family owned. I for one, love the VC Overseas and would like to buy one someday. Sent from my iPad (so I blame autocorrect for the spellin' errs) __________________ Current Collection: Rolex 126619LB, 116710BLNR, and 216570 polar Explorer II; Omega Apollo 8 Speedmaster and Planet Ocean 42; Tudor BB Bronze Bucherer Blue Edition; Nomos Neomatik 42; Breitling Aerospace, Avenger Blackbird, & SuperOcean 44; Doxa 300 Pro Carbon; Stowa Limette; Laco Napa Flieger; Mickey Mouse Timex Electric; and dare I say it...an Apple Watch too

29 January 2015, 08:26 PM	#10
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	Both watch brands work well together but with your choice, I would go with the VC. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

30 January 2015, 02:41 AM	#15
Jari from Finland "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 386	It is difficult decision. Vacheron Constantin Overseas Chronograph is really great watch. I have tried that model on my wrist and I was amazed at its finishing. However, I prefer the YM II over the VC. __________________ "I am interested in watches, that's why I like them."

30 January 2015, 02:52 AM	#16
Mystro 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,028	The most important factor is the design and which you like better. Everything else means nothing. If you dont like the design of the VC, PP, or AP they might as well be a door stop. There is no wrong answer when choosing a watch. __________________

29 January 2015, 05:49 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,485	VC is the third member of the holy trinity (with PP and AP). I'd take one over a YMII for sure.

29 January 2015, 05:54 PM	#3
h999r Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: HR Location: Planet Earth Watch: -ing Barts. Posts: 4,244	Vacheron is one of the best watchmaker in the world. Overseas chrono loves that model.

29 January 2015, 06:01 PM	#4
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,999	I really like the Overseas and I´d also take one over a YMII. If it only was 2mm smaller.

29 January 2015, 06:07 PM	#5
997.2 Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Chaz Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 2,721	Go for the Overseas, YMII is too flashy for my taste

29 January 2015, 06:30 PM	#7
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	Vacheron Constantin for sure, although I would wait until next year, then it will be a 20 year anniversary for the Overseas line. VC introduced a new inhouse chronograph movement this year. Hopefully that means an update of the OS.

29 January 2015, 07:06 PM	#8
kentheevil "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Ken Kelvins Location: bkk Watch: 116610LV Posts: 587	Vc for suree but depense on what you have if i dont have a rolex yet and want a sport watch i will get the yatch master is a beautiful sport watch

29 January 2015, 07:56 PM	#9
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,674	Yes this is a Rolex forum but I'd go for the VC in a heartbeat!

29 January 2015, 09:41 PM	#11
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Well as far as chronographs go, I'd take the VC. I think it compares better to the current Daytona. Same layout for the Sub dials.

29 January 2015, 09:58 PM	#12
AK797 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,326	Any other watches you are considering?

29 January 2015, 11:45 PM	#14
speedy_master1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Watch: can't decide. Posts: 2,477	I personally would not go with Over seas if you are going holy trinity the only one I would go is Royal Oak 15202.

30 January 2015, 03:31 AM	#17
KBM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,424	I'm not a fan of the large text on the YM bezel. VC for me.

30 January 2015, 03:35 AM	#18
Sixshooter "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Caleb Location: Lubbock TX. USA Watch: Crude Prices Posts: 1,103	The VC is a really cool watch. No contest IMO. __________________ - VC - AP - Rolex - Omega

30 January 2015, 03:39 AM	#20
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	Very different watches, and to my mind, not an equal comparison. If it's down to those two however, you must go with your heart no matter about anything else. __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

30 January 2015, 03:45 AM	#21
wantonebad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,843	I love both models and think the world of both makers, I think the YMII is cool as hell but a gold VCOS Chrono is my grail so I can't go with the YMII in this instance. . __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

30 January 2015, 03:55 AM	#22
MitchSteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: MDangerSteel Location: Canada Watch: Vintage Rolex Posts: 2,301	I had the same dilemma.After some research, I chose the VC, and after considerable wait, one came up for very reasonable price, with a fresh service, and I went for it. I'll tell you this thing is magnificent.Daytonas are great,no doubt, but everyone and their dog has a Daytona, a VC OS , not so much. I'd say go for it, you won't regret it.I certainly don't. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel

30 January 2015, 04:34 AM	#23
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	I dislike the YM II so much I'd wear almost anything instead... __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

30 January 2015, 04:36 AM	#24
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	I like the YMII out of these two choices, it has an novel in-house movement. Countdown timer is more unique than chronograph.

30 January 2015, 04:42 AM	#25
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	My vote goes to the VC too.

30 January 2015, 05:46 AM	#27
johnbeth "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Depends on mood. Posts: 9,536	I had a Daytona and the YMII both in solid gold and love the YMII. Also just to make a point, never used the chronograph on the Daytona and never used the egg timer on the YMII as there was never a need. So purely on that, even though the VC has a chrono function, I'm going to say who cares because I will never use it and don't care of that function like some people here seem to have made it an important function compared to the egg timer of the YMII. I prefer the YMII purely on looks, weight and size.

30 January 2015, 06:06 AM	#28
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,759	Go with what makes you happy. Nothing wrong with switching things up. Personally, though, if the goal is one of the so-called "holy trinity", I would rather take an AP or PP over VC, since there's that something extra IMHO with haute horlogerie to be independent (VC is now owned by Richemont, same company that owns JLC, IWC, Panerai, Piaget, Cartier and Montblanc, among others).

30 January 2015, 06:28 AM	#30
Quotron "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: ... Posts: 222	Gotta give the vote to the VC as well, it's far less common, and to my eye a nicer looking watch

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