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Old 19 November 2022, 07:52 AM   #1
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When does it go “Vintage”

What is the consensus at TRF when a Rolex transfers to the vintage side?

Is there a specific date or when the model has been updated a few times?
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Old 19 November 2022, 08:23 AM   #2
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I guess we were due for one of these, it has been a while. ;-)
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Old 19 November 2022, 08:42 AM   #4
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Old 19 November 2022, 10:04 AM   #5
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I could be a little off though.
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Old 19 November 2022, 10:32 AM   #6
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Answer: If the watch is more than half your age and you have been wearing it since new.

(and you thought there wouldn't be any math involved here?)
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Old 19 November 2022, 12:14 PM   #7
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If you, the owner, call it and believe it is vintage, then it is vintage.
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Old 19 November 2022, 12:16 PM   #8
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About the same time it gets "old".
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Old 19 November 2022, 01:48 PM   #9
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Vintage is where the heart is.

Love your 16710 and wear it in good health!
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Old 20 November 2022, 02:40 AM   #10
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In the world of collectibles, in general, vintage starts at 30 years and antique starts at 100 years...

Hope that helps...



PS: Somewhere out there are some "antique" Rolexes!
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Old 20 November 2022, 05:17 AM   #11
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Old 21 November 2022, 06:43 PM   #12
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>1000 posts and still this?

sorry mate....
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Old 23 November 2022, 05:02 AM   #13
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What is the consensus at TRF when a Rolex transfers to the vintage side?

Is there a specific date or when the model has been updated a few times?
Vintage comes from French Vingt Age. We do call vintage if more than 20 years.
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Old 23 November 2022, 05:04 AM   #14
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Old 23 November 2022, 05:10 AM   #15
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I’d consider tritium dial Rolex to be vintage at this point. 25 years now in most models. If it was a car it could wear an antique tag.
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Old 23 November 2022, 05:15 AM   #16
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The older I get, the newer they become
Tell me about it!

I'm more than triple vingt age...

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Old 23 November 2022, 05:19 AM   #17
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I'm more than triple vingt age...



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Old 23 November 2022, 07:22 AM   #18
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Vintage comes from French Vingt Age. We do call vintage if more than 20 years.
Uh, no. Its etymology is derived from, originally, the Latin word “Vinum” (wine/grape).
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Old 23 November 2022, 07:54 AM   #19
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The only french word I know its etymology is chauvin = chaud (hot) + vin (wine) ...
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Old 23 November 2022, 08:17 AM   #20
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The only french word I know its etymology is chauvin = chaud (hot) + vin (wine) ...
Now THERE’S an idea (watching outdoor temperature into the mid-30s)
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Old 23 November 2022, 09:33 AM   #21
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The only french word I know its etymology is chauvin = chaud (hot) + vin (wine) ...
Hahahahahahaha ;-)
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Old 23 November 2022, 09:34 AM   #22
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Uh, no. Its etymology is derived from, originally, the Latin word “Vinum” (wine/grape).
If you say so
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Old 23 November 2022, 11:56 AM   #23
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If you say so
It’s not me saying so. It’s what it is. I was simply correcting your error. Apologies if you took offense.

Source - Merriam-Webster:

“Middle English, probably alteration of vendage, from Anglo-French vendage, vendenge, from Latin vindemia grape-gathering, vintage, from vinum wine, grapes + demere to take off, from de- + emere to take”
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Old 23 November 2022, 12:34 PM   #24
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Yes please, don't take it personally, as you are well aware of, French, Italian, Castellano, Catalan, Galician and for this matter my mother language - Portuguese - are "latin languages", so the root of most of our words is Latin.

Mais ça vous le saviez déjà... Soyez le bienvenu à l'autel de la science Rolex!
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Old 23 November 2022, 12:54 PM   #25
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Yes please, don't take it personally, as you are well aware of, French, Italian, Castellano, Catalan, Galician and for this matter my mother language - Portuguese - are "latin languages", so the root of most of our words is Latin.

Mais ça vous le saviez déjà... Soyez le bienvenu à l'autel de la science Rolex!
Thanks for chiming in, Filipe. And, of course, you are correct.
The greater point I was, apparently, not-so or perhaps too-subtly, trying to make, was that the word vintage has nothing to do with the number 20.
But, you’re right, we’re all here for a common passion and love of these ridiculously cool watches.

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Old 24 November 2022, 02:41 AM   #26
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Just to ad something to this TD I'll say that should be consider Vintage something that "represent the high quality of a past time",
so should not be only age but should also be considered the quality of the watch, otherwise is just hold...
Not an easy task , considering how subjective is the view of a 30/40/50 years watch
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Old 24 November 2022, 02:50 AM   #27
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If you, the owner, call it and believe it is vintage, then it is vintage.
This!
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Old 25 November 2022, 04:31 AM   #28
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I'd say it's relative to your age. I bought my first Rolex (16610LN) new from AD when I got my first college degree in 1997. I feel it's just hitting vintage. However, 24 years from now my guess is that I won't consider the 124270 I picked up last year vintage because how fast I perceive the years to be going by now.

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Old 26 November 2022, 01:04 PM   #29
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When your elderly watchmaker says: "I haven't seen one of these in decades. I'm not sure I have the parts nor can I do a full service. "
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Old 26 November 2022, 02:15 PM   #30
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When they stop liking it and talking about it on the main “Rolex General Discussion” TRF forum…
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