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Old 16 December 2021, 10:39 PM   #1
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Why aren’t these trading trading higher

Hey guys,

I’ve been looking at picking up a 25854Ti. This is the ROO perpetual chronograph. They made very limited numbers of these. I believe between 35-45 pieces. I could be mistaken but I believe this was the first time that a chrono function was offered with a perpetual calendar ( white gold, rose gold and titanium version). They are very rare, are perpetual calendars with an added chrono complication that are trading about a 12-15k premium over the standard titanium (26170Ti) ROO chronos and about 20k less than the new (26238Ti) 2021 all titanium ROO. Doesn’t seem to make sense, but the majority of the watch market doesn’t make sense…..( a very rare, less than 45 piece perpetual chrono trades for 30k less than plain Jane blue dial 15500)

Sorry for the rant fellows.

Curious on your thoughts?

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Old 16 December 2021, 11:14 PM   #2
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It’s an offshore first. Closed caseback second. White dial third. I agree there’s relative value on older stuff across the board. The current market just wants the new new. Gone are the days where the discontinued reference reigns king. Bring on the latest.
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Old 16 December 2021, 11:38 PM   #3
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Everything GB Man said, plus I think the super LE just don’t have awareness they exist. I came across a WG PQ the other day, limited edition 20 that I didn’t even know existed. Knew about the platinum version but not a similar WG one. So ironically with so many small LE demand as tamped down.
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Old 17 December 2021, 12:43 AM   #4
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Thanks Guys,

Don’t you think that someday people will start to realize how collectible these pieces are? I remember when the Ferrari community considered the 288 GTO a fancy 308 ( trading for 200k), now considered a true early super car. Trading for > 2.5 million.
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Old 17 December 2021, 12:45 AM   #5
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Consider it a great value piece for someone that truly wants to get into AP but doesn’t want to pay the crazy mark ups today.

You get a super light perpetual calendar chronograph which is an insane complications package
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Old 17 December 2021, 04:30 AM   #6
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Reign,

You are exactly right. These are great value for a true great horology piece. A perpetual Chrono from AP at under 50-55k. I'm over the hype BS pieces. If I ultimately acquire the piece I will defiantly post some picks.

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Old 17 December 2021, 04:44 AM   #7
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I think this watch is insanely undervalued, i am on the hunt for one
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Old 17 December 2021, 05:32 AM   #8
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The white gold blue dial is amazing. I’ve been looking for one forever but can’t find one anywhere.
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Old 17 December 2021, 09:23 PM   #9
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Here’s a very cool write up about the history of perpetual calendars at the end they discuss the history of the perpetual calendar in the offshore series.

https://revolutionwatch.com/the-comp...tual-calendar/
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Old 18 December 2021, 05:25 AM   #10
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These are the pieces you should be buying, instead of the hyped pieces. Better value and more affordable.
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Old 19 December 2021, 04:26 AM   #11
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1000% brother. I’m trying to find as many nice examples of these rare early offshores.
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Old 20 December 2021, 07:37 AM   #12
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Consider it a great value piece for someone that truly wants to get into AP but doesn’t want to pay the crazy mark ups today.
For a piece like this, I would factor in additional costs for servicing and potentially a complete movement overhaul. Unless of course it has recently been serviced.
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Old 20 December 2021, 08:04 AM   #13
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Service is 1800, confirmed with Clearwater.
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