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Old 17 October 2016, 10:29 AM   #1
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$55,000 Grand Seiko?

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Old 17 October 2016, 10:36 AM   #2
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Looks stunning, and incredibly accurate. I guess being platinum it sells for a premium.

Really like this piece and the heritage too
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Old 17 October 2016, 11:00 AM   #3
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Old 17 October 2016, 11:48 AM   #4
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Gorgeous! I would be thrilled to own one. My one reservation would be retained value otherwise, it is stunning both visually and technically!


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Old 17 October 2016, 12:41 PM   #5
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If one could find this lightly preowned it would be a very cool piece to own.


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Old 17 October 2016, 12:45 PM   #6
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Technically impressive but not worth the price IMHO.
For that level of money I'd go with a PP.
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Old 17 October 2016, 12:52 PM   #7
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I really like Grand Seikos and this watch is pretty impressive on paper. Three barrels is not something you see very often and I like the power reserve indicator on the movement not to mention the platinum case.

...Still, at this price I'd rather go with something with a bit more to offer. Nothing to do with the name on the dial, quite the opposite but I personally think that at this price I'd like a slightly more decorated movement (especially with a sapphire caseback) and a bit more going on on the dial complication wise.
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Old 17 October 2016, 01:00 PM   #8
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technically impressive but not worth the price imho.
For that level of money i'd go with a pp.
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Old 17 October 2016, 07:29 PM   #9
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i think that's definitely the most discrete $55k watch one can own.
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Old 17 October 2016, 08:35 PM   #10
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I like Seiko but not at 55K.
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Old 18 October 2016, 12:40 PM   #11
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Technically impressive but not worth the price IMHO.
For that level of money I'd go with a PP.
Agreed, there is so many choices you could go with at that price range.
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Old 21 October 2016, 09:20 AM   #12
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I like Seiko but not at 55K.
Agreed...my concern would be value retention...nice to have a choice down the road if one wants to upgrade or sell due to unforeseen circumstances IMHO.
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Old 29 October 2016, 01:32 AM   #13
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I don't really see the fuss about the finishing of the movement. Most of what you see is the plate, though nicely finished, not the movement. It is an extremely well executed piece both technically and esthetics wise but for $55,000 my choice would be a Lange, PP or a VC. I just saw a Calatrava with a hunters case there's a lot more to look at as far as finishing goes. Almost seems like a bargain at $38,000 compared to the Grand Seiko. You can almost be sure you will get most of that money back when you decided to sell it not so sure about the Grand Seiko.
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Old 29 October 2016, 02:59 AM   #14
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Not everyone buying watches lives their life according to residual value – many that can afford such sums easily buy because they simply what they like the look of or its exclusivity.
This obsession over how much of its RRP it’ll retain seems to be the sole preserve of forum members only, who are but a small (if somewhat vocal) drop in the ocean compared to the typical watch-buying consumer.

Show me a Lange/Patek/Vacheron in Platinum, produced at a rate of 20 pieces per annum, that costs $55K for a start – they we can begin to compare apples with apples.
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Old 29 October 2016, 03:13 AM   #15
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at this price i'd rather go with something with a bit more to offer. Nothing to do with the name on the dial, quite the opposite but i personally think that at this price i'd like a slightly more decorated movement (especially with a sapphire caseback) and a bit more going on on the dial complication wise.
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Old 29 October 2016, 04:41 AM   #16
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i think that's definitely the most discrete $55k watch one can own.
You can just picture the conversation: Nice watch.... It's a Seiko.....

Amazing work, but not sure I am in at the price.

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Old 16 November 2016, 12:09 PM   #17
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Simple at its best! Love the watch.
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Old 16 November 2016, 12:14 PM   #18
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Old 16 November 2016, 06:56 PM   #19
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Superb, exclusive and very expensive
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Old 20 November 2016, 02:19 AM   #20
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Beautiful and ultra-discrete
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Beautiful watch. It's not for everybody, of course.

For 55k, it's easy to say that a better buy would be something from a more established brand like PP or ALS. For this kind of money, you could even buy something from a real high end "micro" brand like Laurent Ferrier or FP Journe. But a watch like this isn't about brand name.

This watch embodies the Japanese aesthetic and mentality perfectly. It's made to the highest standard, its practical, and it is not flashy.
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Old 20 November 2016, 01:25 PM   #22
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Beautiful watch. It's not for everybody, of course.

For 55k, it's easy to say that a better buy would be something from a more established brand like PP or ALS. For this kind of money, you could even buy something from a real high end "micro" brand like Laurent Ferrier or FP Journe. But a watch like this isn't about brand name.

This watch embodies the Japanese aesthetic and mentality perfectly. It's made to the highest standard, its practical, and it is not flashy.


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Old 20 November 2016, 08:39 PM   #23
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Serious statement watch.
I love it, I just can't get myself to pay more than 3k for it.
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Old 21 November 2016, 04:57 AM   #24
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i think that's definitely the most discrete $55k watch one can own.
Its 75k lol


I can respect the engineering, craftsmanship and design, but the price tag is absurd haha
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Old 21 November 2016, 06:09 AM   #26
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Still wouldn't wear it. There's a lot better for 55k.
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Old 21 November 2016, 06:19 AM   #27
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And that’s what makes some different from the others – more open minded, less herd mentality restricting one’s choices.
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Old 22 November 2016, 06:53 AM   #28
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I don't really see the fuss about the finishing of the movement. Most of what you see is the plate, though nicely finished, not the movement. It is an extremely well executed piece both technically and esthetics wise but for $55,000 my choice would be a Lange, PP or a VC. I just saw a Calatrava with a hunters case there's a lot more to look at as far as finishing goes. Almost seems like a bargain at $38,000 compared to the Grand Seiko. You can almost be sure you will get most of that money back when you decided to sell it not so sure about the Grand Seiko.
Different strokes for different folks, call me fussy but I like to admire the art of a nicely finished movement every now and then, hence the fact that I particularly like the PR indicator on the back. Besides, I know that GS is capable of making some nice Côtes de Genève or Côtes Droites on their bridges and plates, I just wish they'd have done it on this masterpiece of theirs.

Furthermore, I think that giving way too much importance to the brand name becomes a real problem. Be it with newer releases that are controversial to say the least, quality control that gets a tad problematic or masterpieces that get ignored because of their names.

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Show me a Lange/Patek/Vacheron in Platinum, produced at a rate of 20 pieces per annum, that costs $55K for a start – they we can begin to compare apples with apples.
Amen to that.
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Old 7 December 2016, 11:06 AM   #29
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For $55k you'd think they would at least do a 3/4 plate like Lange.
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