When is it time to just move on?

[SDGT3]

I've purchased my Rolex's from private parties and grey - never an AD. I've tried to establish a relationship with one for the past 7 months, going in whenever I'm in the mall, talking about current mutual interests, told him I'm interested in buying any Sub, SD43, Bluesey, and saying that next year is a big wedding anniversary year for me and my wife and I'd like to buy a his/hers to celebrate and mark the "time" together. I've texted him once a month to keep me in mind etc. I've also referred my cousin who is interested in a DSSD. All I get in return is "be patient".

Is it simply time to move onto another AD?

[EZ01]

I don't know why you limited yourself to just one AD, especially since you haven't bought from any of them. I would have casted a wider net and asked every one of them in range. The first one to offer me what I wanted would be the one that gets my business.

[-Skyfall-]

7 months is more than enough time. I’d move on. They’re probably selling everything to Greys or their family and friends anyways.

[ArtNouveau]

I think you're doing the right thing by going in person from time to time. What I would suggest though is asking for one specific model not a grab bag of Professionals. You also mentioned buying a pair, you should also select a specific model for your wife.
A bundle of two watches at once will probably get you started.

[RTG]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

I think you're doing the right thing by going in person from time to time. What I would suggest though is asking for one specific model not a grab bag of Professionals. You also mentioned buying a pair, you should also select a specific model for your wife.
A bundle of two watches at once will probably get you started.

[ROLEX*]

After you celebrated 10 year of waiting time...

[Ringhio]

It's good that you are going, but when they say "establishing a relation" it doesn't mean just going and texting. It means spending some money with your AD.

When you started dating your wife did you express your interest in her just by showing up?
Or you got her flowers? maybe a nice dinner? a drink? a coffee? Chocolate?
Whatever, as a token of your genuine interest in "establishing a relation" with her?

You need to spend some money... that is the objective reality ;)

[JSolution]

Originally Posted by Ringhio

It's good that you are going, but when they say "establishing a relation" it doesn't mean just going and texting. It means spending some money with your AD.

When you started dating your wife did you express your interest in her just by showing up?
Or you got her flowers? maybe a nice dinner? a drink? a coffee? Chocolate?
Whatever, as a token of your genuine interest in "establishing a relation" with her?

You need to spend some money... that is the objective reality ;)

Yeah this is true. I started by just putting something in for a service

[HHIslander]

No harm in looking around and I would surely expand your search to every AD you can. My ADs know about each other, it's an open relationship. Seven months without an offer of anything is too long. You should have at least gotten an SD43 offer by now. I would keep stopping by this AD though, you never know.

[enjoythemusic]

Agree, bail on the mall store and find another... or stay with reliable greys. I gave my local mall store a try and it's been many months. Who knows anymore......

Come back once this bubble bursts, there will be some good buys at some point.

[Spectral_Method]

As Ringhio stated, you need to spend money. You have a big anniversary, maybe get your wife something nice from that AD?

[Fleetlord]

If you haven't purchased anything of note from this AD, then there is no possibility of relationship.

[kieselguhr]

The thread title got me thinking this place is starting to turn into a relationship forum

Sucks to hear about your frustration OP. But like in real relationships, when you’re starting fresh you really should be dating more than 1 at a time so you can move on to #2, #3 and so on if one is playing games you. That way it’s efficient and you won’t skip a beat.

[Doc Savage]

I've sworn off Rolex ADs completely. YMMV, but they can't do a thing for me.

[nr1416]

Keep doing what your doing but yes do try doing the same with other ADs in your area.

And please don't buy anything you don't want from the blood sucking ADs that pawn off their crap jewelry. In the long run just go grey if your going to do that.

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[beshannon]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

Is it simply time to move onto another AD?

Another AD, another brand. Why limit yourself?

[alphadweller]

OP, all I can say is I heard "be patient" before. That was a bit more than 3 years ago for a steel Pepsi. Guess what, it never happened.

[Gekota]

Originally Posted by alphadweller

OP, all I can say is I heard "be patient" before. That was a bit more than 3 years ago for a steel Pepsi. Guess what, it never happened.

Hope you got what you wanted elsewhere in the end.

My AD has been pretty upfront with me from day 1, telling me that no spend = no relationship for any popular models. Those that like to play the long-term psychology "wait bait" game with their customers, giving them false hope are way worse, imo.

[SDGT3]

I appreciate all the responses, even the ones that assume much and perhaps I wasn't clear or detailed in the original post. What prompted this post is that I'm scheduled to go into the mall today on a different matter and will pop in again to the AD.

This AD only sells Rolex, so there is not other jewelry, Cartier, Omega or other things to buy so that's a moot point. Even if I wanted to buy something else, I haven't even received a call on something I don't want

I've never asked for anything hard to get like a SS Daytona, Pepsi etc. even as an anniversary watch.

My intention is to go in this evening, ask for the AD I've been in contact with during the past 7 months and explain to him that I've asked for a few different things, referred a relative to him and have not heard a thing even on models that are not hard to get. Because my anniversary is upcoming and don't want to leave it to chance, I'm not confident he can deliver and will be contacting other AD's. If he can deliver, then he'll get my business, otherwise the first AD that can deliver will get my business and referrals.

[Rogerab]

Trying the same thing over again at multiple ADs increases the odds of multiple disappointments, but improves getting lucky chances. Reminds me of bidding wars for houses where you include a letter with your offer to advocate how great an owner you and your family, including pets, will be. Relationships mean something but long standing ones mean more. Patience, time, money. There still are some things were sales people chase you to buy, Rolex watches not included. Do what works for you in the context of the market reality.

[Vipes]

Another thing to consider is inventory is pretty low/scarce.

[Gekota]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

I appreciate all the responses, even the ones that assume much and perhaps I wasn't clear or detailed in the original post. What prompted this post is that I'm scheduled to go into the mall today on a different matter and will pop in again to the AD.

This AD only sells Rolex, so there is not other jewelry, Cartier, Omega or other things to buy so that's a moot point. Even if I wanted to buy something else, I haven't even received a call on something I don't want

I've never asked for anything hard to get like a SS Daytona, Pepsi etc. even as an anniversary watch.

My intention is to go in this evening, ask for the AD I've been in contact with during the past 7 months and explain to him that I've asked for a few different things, referred a relative to him and have not heard a thing even on models that are not hard to get. Because my anniversary is upcoming and don't want to leave it to chance, I'm not confident he can deliver and will be contacting other AD's. If he can deliver, then he'll get my business, otherwise the first AD that can deliver will get my business and referrals.

Yeah, sounds like the chap over with your AD has already quite an impressive clientele list and he is simply being patronizing. Maybe you can signal to him that you have spotted a watch with another AD that you may be interested in and you'll get in touch with him again, just to see his response.

[Me4u2night]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

I appreciate all the responses, even the ones that assume much and perhaps I wasn't clear or detailed in the original post. What prompted this post is that I'm scheduled to go into the mall today on a different matter and will pop in again to the AD.

This AD only sells Rolex, so there is not other jewelry, Cartier, Omega or other things to buy so that's a moot point. Even if I wanted to buy something else, I haven't even received a call on something I don't want

I've never asked for anything hard to get like a SS Daytona, Pepsi etc. even as an anniversary watch.

My intention is to go in this evening, ask for the AD I've been in contact with during the past 7 months and explain to him that I've asked for a few different things, referred a relative to him and have not heard a thing even on models that are not hard to get. Because my anniversary is upcoming and don't want to leave it to chance, I'm not confident he can deliver and will be contacting other AD's. If he can deliver, then he'll get my business, otherwise the first AD that can deliver will get my business and referrals.

Out of curiosity, why would you bother to tell them all that? Don't think that's going to get them to deliver on the watch. I would move on and try my luck with another AD, but i wouldn't tell him all that. You never know if you can potentially do business with them in the future.

[-Skyfall-]

Originally Posted by Me4u2night

Out of curiosity, why would you bother to tell them all that? Don't think that's going to get them to deliver on the watch. I would move on and try my luck with another AD, but i wouldn't tell him all that. You never know if you can potentially do business with them in the future.

Agree with this. None of that needs to be said. Except that your anniversary is coming up I guess. Definitely don’t bring up other ADs. That won’t improve your chances.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

I appreciate all the responses, even the ones that assume much and perhaps I wasn't clear or detailed in the original post. What prompted this post is that I'm scheduled to go into the mall today on a different matter and will pop in again to the AD.

This AD only sells Rolex, so there is not other jewelry, Cartier, Omega or other things to buy so that's a moot point. Even if I wanted to buy something else, I haven't even received a call on something I don't want

I've never asked for anything hard to get like a SS Daytona, Pepsi etc. even as an anniversary watch.

My intention is to go in this evening, ask for the AD I've been in contact with during the past 7 months and explain to him that I've asked for a few different things, referred a relative to him and have not heard a thing even on models that are not hard to get. Because my anniversary is upcoming and don't want to leave it to chance, I'm not confident he can deliver and will be contacting other AD's. If he can deliver, then he'll get my business, otherwise the first AD that can deliver will get my business and referrals.

Ok. Let’s just get down to it.

The AD you have been communicating with over the last 7 months isn’t interested in your business.

Going in and pleading your case is weak sauce.

It’s time to move on to other AD’s and don’t repeat this AD oneitis again.

[dwjez14]

Don’t even waste your time other ADs. I wouldn’t bother talking to your current Ad either. Just go gray and save the frustration at the end of the day they care nothing about our stories. The watches sale themselves so they do not have to provide good service. Ask yourself how luck is your time and stress levels of going to more ADs looking at empty windows telling them you want a watch and getting the same story over and over again. I would assume at this point every AD has been hit by multiple people trying to find a watch. Good luck I hope you find your watch in the future ! It is frustrating that is for sure.

[DougFNJ]

OP, there are numerous experiences from so many members here, and the only feedback you will get is based on their own experiences. FWIW, I would NEVER get into that bundling game. If you are going to spend money on items you don't want to "potentially" get what you want down the road, I move on from those AD's, they are the ones that give AD's a bad name and reputation in general. But you also clarified this is not the case with this AD.

Some suggested casting a wider net, and I totally agree with this. When I decided I was going to purchase my Sub Date, I was only going to purchase it through an AD, and I had no intention to pay over retail. I met some great people, and learned some lessons to increase my chances of getting one sooner rather and later. You are doing nothing wrong with the way you are forming the relationship, and the follow up. One AD gave me the best advise. Go out of the metro areas, and try to find AD locations, someone that just became an AD in the last few years. These people are looking to establish a new client base, and they won't tend to just cater to older or richer customers. You are also doing it right with the flexibility on the type of model you are looking for. The propensity for at least ONE of those models coming in should get it to you much faster.

So I wouldn't give up on this AD, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in his basket. He's not appreciating your patience as much as someone that is forward thinking and would like your business for the long term.

I started by visiting 5 AD's. One told me I would need a relationship builder, I told him to pound salt. One was the 100 year store that gave me the advise. One just took my name and showed little interest in my business. The 2 others were great people, extraordinary service, both committed they would take care of me, and after 11 days from my first visit, I got the call. I am now hoping for a Polar Explorer 2 and have been keeping in touch with both.

Good luck!! It's going to happen, just put yourself in the position to have multiple people helping you out.

[Francist]

I dunno about you but the only language my AD knows is $.
You spend, they let you buy. Mind you, it’ll still be quite a waiting list.
There are people with enough dough emptying their shops just to get on the list.

[kieselguhr]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

I appreciate all the responses, even the ones that assume much and perhaps I wasn't clear or detailed in the original post. What prompted this post is that I'm scheduled to go into the mall today on a different matter and will pop in again to the AD.

This AD only sells Rolex, so there is not other jewelry, Cartier, Omega or other things to buy so that's a moot point. Even if I wanted to buy something else, I haven't even received a call on something I don't want

I've never asked for anything hard to get like a SS Daytona, Pepsi etc. even as an anniversary watch.

My intention is to go in this evening, ask for the AD I've been in contact with during the past 7 months and explain to him that I've asked for a few different things, referred a relative to him and have not heard a thing even on models that are not hard to get. Because my anniversary is upcoming and don't want to leave it to chance, I'm not confident he can deliver and will be contacting other AD's. If he can deliver, then he'll get my business, otherwise the first AD that can deliver will get my business and referrals.

It sounds like you’re trying to guilt trip him into producing. I hate to break it to you, it won’t work. Might as well not say anything and just go ahead and start asking other ADs

[HHIslander]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

This AD only sells Rolex, so there is not other jewelry, Cartier, Omega or other things to buy so that's a moot point.

Wow. So what do they have in the cases? Anything? What do the sales reps do all day? I didn't know there were Rolex boutiques like this in the US, other than the one at The Wynn.