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interestedinwatches · 5 July 2021, 01:01 PM

Is it an overlap?

I have handled the 5711 and 15202 / 15500 and I feel like they all have similar wears and would be kind of hard to reason to keep both besides for fun collecting.

What do you guys think? Is it an overlap?

chmhill · 5 July 2021, 01:09 PM

I have both 5711 and 15202st. They were designed by the same person, but they look quite different.

Ichiran · 5 July 2021, 01:34 PM

I have the 5711 and I wish I also own the 15202. Both spectacular watches.

DoctorA · 5 July 2021, 01:38 PM

Absolutely not redundant. They actually complement each other
Just get different dial colors

Bearxj86 · 5 July 2021, 01:41 PM

I would actually say you need both :)

subtona · 5 July 2021, 01:45 PM

Redundant for me. Both are equally as nice but as Ken might say, “there can be only one”

Had them both, the WR of the 5711 allowed me to wear it much more.

But the 15202 fit my wrist better than any watch I have owned

HMHM · 5 July 2021, 07:58 PM

Honestly, owning more than 1 watch is redundant isn’t it? Owning 10 watches is considered nuts! Yet most of us here probably do. From a collecting point of view there is no such thing as too many. Some people even collect the same watch with different dial variations. Ideally it’s a good situation to have both the Nautilus and the RO, those with even deeper wallet can add the VC overseas to complete the holy trinity of SS sport watches.

ts3 · 5 July 2021, 08:17 PM

I prefer one of the two and have limited interest in adding the other one. But no, not too much overlap as they are very different looking watches. There are tons of people here with half a dozen or more Rolex sports watches. That's what I call redundant and boring beyond belief.

1William · 5 July 2021, 08:45 PM

If you like the watches and they get wrist time then no, they are not redundant. If you wear only one significantly more and they other just sit then maybe I would look to move them for a watch that would get more wrist time.

Moondoggy · 5 July 2021, 08:49 PM

Just pivot in an innocuous manner fluidly with third level toggle influences.

AK797 · 5 July 2021, 10:56 PM

Of course not.

theflywrist · 5 July 2021, 11:20 PM

Not at all!

superdog · 6 July 2021, 01:02 AM

Not remotely.

LadyTimeWatches · 6 July 2021, 01:18 AM

Both the RO and Nautilus are stunning timepieces designed by Genta and imo can never be redundant in any collection.

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enjoythemusic · 6 July 2021, 01:54 AM

i see it as redundant since both are very old designs. Perhaps try something new with a world-record thin movement instead imho. It's the modern equivalent and all that. Also look at pricing of the Bvlgari Octo FS with 100M WP rating and nice long warranty, you decide which is the real deal.

Bvlgari_Octo_Finissimo_S.jpg

azizu · 6 July 2021, 07:13 AM

I have the 5712 and the 15500
Both wear different, the RO is more sporty/thick while the nautilus is more slim and elegant.
The good thing about mine is they are different dial color

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Humble michael · 6 July 2021, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearxj86

I would actually say you need both :)

Ha I have 5711 white & RO & yep me agrees . James in San Antonio Tx

azizu · 7 July 2021, 06:56 AM

sorry forgot to upload photos for reference

subtona · 7 July 2021, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

i see it as redundant since both are very old designs. Perhaps try something new with a world-record thin movement instead imho. It's the modern equivalent and all that. Also look at pricing of the Bvlgari Octo FS with 100M WP rating and nice long warranty, you decide which is the real deal.

Attachment 1231027

This watch is fantastic. To try it on the wrist is to know it’s true!

Agree about the 100m and tremendous value compared to the alternatives.

The thinness is unbelievable.

cascavel · 7 July 2021, 08:36 AM

Is owning 2 Rolexes an overlap? And, yet, most people on this site do. The Royal Oak and Nautilus have different case shapes, bracelets, dial layouts manufacturers, movements clasps etc. I think the question is: without one of each of these is it a collection?

2nastie · 7 July 2021, 08:49 AM

Two different watches with two different design elements. Similarity is the fact that it came from one designer.

Rolex Sub, GMT, YM, Explorer 2 are far more similar between each other than these two.

SL BRABUS · 7 July 2021, 03:37 PM

where I come form, once you have a Nautilus you don't need a Royal Oak.....

cascavel · 7 July 2021, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

where I come form, once you have a Nautilus you don't need a Royal Oak.....

If you have a Royal Oak, do you need a Nautilus, or is that a one way thing?

1665fan · 7 July 2021, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascavel

If you have a Royal Oak, do you need a Nautilus, or is that a one way thing?

1 way thing....

WatchingAustin · 8 July 2021, 12:54 AM

Never. Grab an Aquanaut to really complete the package.

Oyster Sauce · 8 July 2021, 03:13 AM

I voted "not redundant," but conditionally.

If one was collecting Genta-designed/associated watches, then having both the AP and PP is not redundant.

If one is collecting super-popular watches of the present, then having both the AP and PP is not redundant.

Otherwise, I can see why they might be redundant in a collection...very similar DNA (strikingly attractive DNA at that) and niche. Wear what you have in good health

WatchtraderNY · 8 July 2021, 05:35 AM

Having both just completes the great Genta design duo. No overlap in my opinion.

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SL BRABUS · 8 July 2021, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

1 way thing....

This.....^^^......

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascavel

If you have a Royal Oak, do you need a Nautilus, or is that a one way thing?

One way thing..... For me.....

I have nothing against AP Royal Oak......

My wife gave me wake up call in many way.....

Asking me questions.....

If you have a choice and only can pick one, which it would be.... Nautilus or Royal Oak......??

Me answer: Nautilus

If you have a Royal Oak would you still want the Nautilus....

Me answer: Yes, I still want the Nautilus......

Giving a choice of buying another watch when you already have a Nautilus would you still want a Royal Oak or another Nautilus or maybe even a Aquanaut..??

Me answer : Aquanaut would make a great pair with the Nautilus.....

If you can't get the Nautilus or Aquanaut, would you settle for the Royal Oak...??

Me answer: Most likely yes, but I really want the Nautilus or Aquanaut...lol...

If you have all three watch such as Nautilus, Aquanaut and Royal Oak..... And you can only take two watch for the long weekend wedding attendants... Which watch would you take and why.......??

Me answer: Nautilus for the wedding reception or anything that required formal wear..... Aquanaut for the bachelor party or anything that can be casual wear......

Last question...... If you have both Nautilus and Aquanaut... And can only keep one which would you pick and why.....

Me answer: Aquanaut because it fit my casual lifestyle......

After answering all those questions..... I know if I have a Royal Oak in my collection, it would hardly get any wrist time......

Daytonaman799 · 8 July 2021, 10:59 AM

I love both...great agents designs and they are very different while the same. Thi k of them like siblings.

Apheaven · 10 July 2021, 12:02 AM

Both are iconic to their respective watch houses..that said yes they are similar but still very different in my eyes.

I suppose the question comes back to wether YOU feel they are redundant?

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5 July 2021, 01:01 PM	#1
interestedinwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: nyc Posts: 734	Is a Nautilus and a Royal Oak redundant in a collection? Is it an overlap? I have handled the 5711 and 15202 / 15500 and I feel like they all have similar wears and would be kind of hard to reason to keep both besides for fun collecting. What do you guys think? Is it an overlap?

5 July 2021, 01:38 PM	#4
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,545	Absolutely not redundant. They actually complement each other Just get different dial colors __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

5 July 2021, 01:45 PM	#6
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,491	Redundant for me. Both are equally as nice but as Ken might say, “there can be only one” Had them both, the WR of the 5711 allowed me to wear it much more. But the 15202 fit my wrist better than any watch I have owned __________________

6 July 2021, 01:02 AM	#13
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,827	Not remotely. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

5 July 2021, 01:09 PM	#2
chmhill "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: PP Posts: 239	I have both 5711 and 15202st. They were designed by the same person, but they look quite different.

5 July 2021, 01:34 PM	#3
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Near beach Watch: PB1967 Posts: 8,110	I have the 5711 and I wish I also own the 15202. Both spectacular watches.

5 July 2021, 01:41 PM	#5
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,883	I would actually say you need both :)

5 July 2021, 07:58 PM	#7
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,461	Honestly, owning more than 1 watch is redundant isn’t it? Owning 10 watches is considered nuts! Yet most of us here probably do. From a collecting point of view there is no such thing as too many. Some people even collect the same watch with different dial variations. Ideally it’s a good situation to have both the Nautilus and the RO, those with even deeper wallet can add the VC overseas to complete the holy trinity of SS sport watches.

5 July 2021, 08:17 PM	#8
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,490	I prefer one of the two and have limited interest in adding the other one. But no, not too much overlap as they are very different looking watches. There are tons of people here with half a dozen or more Rolex sports watches. That's what I call redundant and boring beyond belief.

5 July 2021, 08:45 PM	#9
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,472	If you like the watches and they get wrist time then no, they are not redundant. If you wear only one significantly more and they other just sit then maybe I would look to move them for a watch that would get more wrist time.

5 July 2021, 08:49 PM	#10
Moondoggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Knackers Location: NI/Aust/USA Watch: and wait Posts: 3,265	Just pivot in an innocuous manner fluidly with third level toggle influences.

5 July 2021, 10:56 PM	#11
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	Of course not.

5 July 2021, 11:20 PM	#12
theflywrist "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 1,993	Not at all!

6 July 2021, 01:18 AM	#14
LadyTimeWatches "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2021 Real Name: Kini Location: Hong Kong Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 145	Both the RO and Nautilus are stunning timepieces designed by Genta and imo can never be redundant in any collection. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 July 2021, 01:54 AM	#15
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 20,933	i see it as redundant since both are very old designs. Perhaps try something new with a world-record thin movement instead imho. It's the modern equivalent and all that. Also look at pricing of the Bvlgari Octo FS with 100M WP rating and nice long warranty, you decide which is the real deal. Bvlgari_Octo_Finissimo_S.jpg __________________ __________________ ----> TAMPA Meetup In December 2024 <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=13450519 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

6 July 2021, 07:13 AM	#16
azizu "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Saudi Arabia Watch: Patek 3700/11AJ Posts: 717	I have the 5712 and the 15500 Both wear different, the RO is more sporty/thick while the nautilus is more slim and elegant. The good thing about mine is they are different dial color Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Current Collection: PP 3700/11AJ, PP 5170G, PP 5320G, PP 5712/1A, APRO 15500, Rolex 116234, Rolex GMT Master2 BLNR, Omega SMP, Baume & Mercier M0A10280

7 July 2021, 08:36 AM	#20
cascavel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 1,894	Is owning 2 Rolexes an overlap? And, yet, most people on this site do. The Royal Oak and Nautilus have different case shapes, bracelets, dial layouts manufacturers, movements clasps etc. I think the question is: without one of each of these is it a collection?

7 July 2021, 08:49 AM	#21
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	Two different watches with two different design elements. Similarity is the fact that it came from one designer. Rolex Sub, GMT, YM, Explorer 2 are far more similar between each other than these two.

7 July 2021, 03:37 PM	#22
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,390	where I come form, once you have a Nautilus you don't need a Royal Oak..... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

8 July 2021, 12:54 AM	#25
WatchingAustin "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: TX Watch: iwatch Posts: 390	Never. Grab an Aquanaut to really complete the package.

8 July 2021, 03:13 AM	#26
Oyster Sauce "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,866	I voted "not redundant," but conditionally. If one was collecting Genta-designed/associated watches, then having both the AP and PP is not redundant. If one is collecting super-popular watches of the present, then having both the AP and PP is not redundant. Otherwise, I can see why they might be redundant in a collection...very similar DNA (strikingly attractive DNA at that) and niche. Wear what you have in good health

8 July 2021, 05:35 AM	#27
WatchtraderNY 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 338	Having both just completes the great Genta design duo. No overlap in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 July 2021, 10:59 AM	#29
Daytonaman799 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC/South Fl Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 3,678	I love both...great agents designs and they are very different while the same. Thi k of them like siblings.

10 July 2021, 12:02 AM	#30
Apheaven "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: SF Posts: 589	Both are iconic to their respective watch houses..that said yes they are similar but still very different in my eyes. I suppose the question comes back to wether YOU feel they are redundant? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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