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FL2024 · 12 July 2024, 01:22 PM

vacheron constantin has an illustrious history and makes some of the finest and most magnificent timepieces money can buy. For example that overseas with the intense blue dial is arguably one of the most blue pieces out there. I think they deserve more attention, it truly boggles my mind how under appreciated they are.

What do you think?

enjoythemusic · 12 July 2024, 09:59 PM

VC was kinda sorta part of the 1960s "Holy Trinity" marketing effort, tho it now being 2024 everyone realizes it was just a marketing scheme over 60 years ago that no one ever questioned.

VC is an EXCELLENT brand, many here on TRF love them

EEpro · 12 July 2024, 11:17 PM

I like mine a lot.

They aren't mass marketed.

They are considerably more expensive than most of the popular brands you mentioned with sales tax exceeding the cost of an entry Rolex in many cases.

$25,000 for a steel watch. $64,000 for a gold chrono on strap etc. So they aren't going to be widely accessible to most even if people loved them as a household name.

Easy E · 12 July 2024, 11:47 PM

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I have two and I find them to be a couple of my favorite watches - 5500 blue, RG 1921 40mm, so nice. As for why the general population doesn't know or care, that probably comes down to nothing more than marketing.

raclaims · 13 July 2024, 12:16 AM

I'm a huge fan..."Mr. Vacheron" lol

Anyway, from speaking to the brass...they like that it's a IFYKYK brand. Their customers like being in a unique club so to speak (from speaking to many collectors).

It's quite interesting. I've been to the factory and it's spectacular.

They only make around 20k pieces a year. They are opening more and more high end boutiques and I think that will get more eye balls.

So, it's a fantastic brand...but most people just don't really know it or think of it after Patek or AP or others.

EEpro · 13 July 2024, 01:15 AM

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GB-man · 13 July 2024, 01:30 AM

They are a great brand. I think relative to their peers (patek and AP)...Patek is king and AP has spent considerable time and money marketing the brand. Much more than any other brand I can think of outside Rolex. They put their watches on celebrities as a general strategy and have been doing that for the better part of a decade.

I think it's a good thing that they aren't well known by the public.

Llamathurst · 13 July 2024, 01:38 AM

Don't let the secret out!

vliberman · 13 July 2024, 02:59 AM

Overseas line is a knock off of Genta designs, people prefer originals hence advantage AP/ PP.

222 line was discontinued until recently so VC was missing original design in the category. This is changing but lack of SS is a problem.

Traditional line of watches is interesting but generally such watches were out of favor. Further, competition in traditional category is fierce. Too many entrants with similar or better provenance. Brands like Lange, Patek and FPJ are head and shoulders above VC in terms of perception.

Omega and Rolex are not competitors of VC.

HL65 · 13 July 2024, 03:40 AM

I kind of like them! ;)

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ap1 · 13 July 2024, 03:44 AM

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What a trio - enjoy those

HL65 · 13 July 2024, 03:44 AM

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What a trio - enjoy those

Thank you my friend!

mickyd329 · 13 July 2024, 03:51 AM

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I kind of like them! ;)

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Now that is as perfect of a VC trio as I've seen. Congrats!

HL65 · 13 July 2024, 04:01 AM

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Now that is as perfect of a VC trio as I've seen. Congrats!

Thanks!

GB-man · 13 July 2024, 04:42 AM

Nice set Ken. Love the cornes de vache.

unsprung · 13 July 2024, 05:01 AM

„Appreciation“ is not just a matter of quality products, but also a matter of marketing and such. Vacheron makes some great watches, got two of them myself. They‘re just not as „good“ at marketing. On the plus side, they‘re a good choice, if you want a watch that‘s not recognized by everyone.

Easy E · 13 July 2024, 05:04 AM

In for the pics.

HL65 · 13 July 2024, 05:22 AM

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Nice set Ken. Love the cornes de vache.

Thanks my friend!

ChetBaker · 13 July 2024, 05:22 AM

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I kind of like them! ;)

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A 1955, a 1921 and an Overseas. THIS is VC Ladies and Gentlemen.

HL65 · 13 July 2024, 05:23 AM

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A 1955, a 1921 and an Overseas. THIS is VC Ladies and Gentlemen.

Thank you!

PhilLynott · 13 July 2024, 06:46 AM

Love mine and got an unreal deal on it was less than a 41mm sub on secondary. Think I'd rather have this:

sinkholeninja · 13 July 2024, 07:59 AM

Because they are not hyped up, which is fine by me

NYG1121 · 13 July 2024, 10:13 AM

@HL65. Incredible VC lineup! That 1921 is on my radar. How do you compare the size/wear to the others? I had the overseas but it was a tad too big for reference.

Cru Jones · 13 July 2024, 05:27 PM

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I kind of like them! ;)

Truly superb representation of the brand. Thanks for sharing these beauties!

I might be misremembering, but I seem to recall a few years back, you being a bit down on VC. Looks like times have changed!

HL65 · 13 July 2024, 07:04 PM

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@HL65. Incredible VC lineup! That 1921 is on my radar. How do you compare the size/wear to the others? I had the overseas but it was a tad too big for reference.

Thanks! It wears well on my wrist. The Overseas also fits me perfect. My wrist is 7.5 “ so they all fit me well.

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Truly superb representation of the brand. Thanks for sharing these beauties!

I might be misremembering, but I seem to recall a few years back, you being a bit down on VC. Looks like times have changed!

Thanks Cru! I had a few Patrimony’s which I weren’t crazy about. Really love these 3 references.

Cru Jones · 13 July 2024, 07:22 PM

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Thanks Cru! I had a few Patrimony’s which I weren’t crazy about. Really love these 3 references.

cascavel · 13 July 2024, 08:14 PM

It's only stainless steel sport watches that get outsized amounts of love. Hence Rolex, Royal Oak (all other Audemars' are shunned), Aquanaut, Nautilus. When Lange produced the stainless Odysseus it was sold out before it came out.
No one really cares about Omega except for the Snoopy. Sure, you have to own one OSP to be a real collector on the condition that you never wear it.
Vacheron had the 222 but changed the design so much by the time the luxury sport watch craze hit that no one knew anything about its history and Vacheron failed to reintroduce it in a timely fashion.

huncho · 14 July 2024, 01:39 AM

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It's only stainless steel sport watches that get outsized amounts of love. Hence Rolex, Royal Oak (all other Audemars' are shunned), Aquanaut, Nautilus. When Lange produced the stainless Odysseus it was sold out before it came out.
No one really cares about Omega except for the Snoopy. Sure, you have to own one OSP to be a real collector on the condition that you never wear it.
Vacheron had the 222 but changed the design so much by the time the luxury sport watch craze hit that no one knew anything about its history and Vacheron failed to reintroduce it in a timely fashion.

they just do almost 0 marketing so most people don't even know the brand exists. i also think they need more sizes for the overseas line. 42.5mm is fairly big and even though it wears like a 40mm rolex sports model the bracelet doesn't taper and it's pretty fat so the watch wears big. i feel like they could definitely benefit from introducing a proper smaller size (37-39mm). the current 35mm has horrible proportions and is basically a different watch

otherwise they are amazing watches, although i do think they look better on straps because the bracelet doesn't taper

HL65 · 14 July 2024, 01:42 AM

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they just do almost 0 marketing so most people don't even know the brand exists. i also think they need more sizes for the overseas line. 42.5mm is fairly big and even though it wears like a 40mm rolex sports model the bracelet doesn't taper and it's pretty fat so the watch wears big. i feel like they could definitely benefit from introducing a proper smaller size (37-39mm). the current 35mm has horrible proportions and is basically a different watch

otherwise they are amazing watches, although i do think they look better on straps because the bracelet doesn't taper

I like the size and feel of the 4500V at 41mm and 11mm thick.

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Ichiran · 14 July 2024, 01:47 AM

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I kind of like them! ;)

All very lovely but that platinum CdV is special. The dial is balanced and those lugs are a joy to look at

12 July 2024, 01:22 PM	#1
FL2024 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: 126622 & 214270 Posts: 54	Why does Vasheron not get the same love as AP, Patek, Omega, or Rolex… ? vacheron constantin has an illustrious history and makes some of the finest and most magnificent timepieces money can buy. For example that overseas with the intense blue dial is arguably one of the most blue pieces out there. I think they deserve more attention, it truly boggles my mind how under appreciated they are. What do you think?

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enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 20,277	VC was kinda sorta part of the 1960s "Holy Trinity" marketing effort, tho it now being 2024 everyone realizes it was just a marketing scheme over 60 years ago that no one ever questioned. VC is an EXCELLENT brand, many here on TRF love them __________________ __________________ Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

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EEpro 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Brad Location: Purdue Watch: Daytona Posts: 9,237	Why does Vasheron not get the same love as AP, Patek, Omega, or Rolex… ? I like mine a lot. They aren't mass marketed. They are considerably more expensive than most of the popular brands you mentioned with sales tax exceeding the cost of an entry Rolex in many cases. $25,000 for a steel watch. $64,000 for a gold chrono on strap etc. So they aren't going to be widely accessible to most even if people loved them as a household name. __________________ ♛ ✠ Ω 2FA Active

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GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,121	They are a great brand. I think relative to their peers (patek and AP)...Patek is king and AP has spent considerable time and money marketing the brand. Much more than any other brand I can think of outside Rolex. They put their watches on celebrities as a general strategy and have been doing that for the better part of a decade. I think it's a good thing that they aren't well known by the public. __________________

12 July 2024, 11:47 PM	#4
Easy E 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: GA Posts: 4,744	I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I have two and I find them to be a couple of my favorite watches - 5500 blue, RG 1921 40mm, so nice. As for why the general population doesn't know or care, that probably comes down to nothing more than marketing.

13 July 2024, 12:16 AM	#5
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,598	I'm a huge fan..."Mr. Vacheron" lol Anyway, from speaking to the brass...they like that it's a IFYKYK brand. Their customers like being in a unique club so to speak (from speaking to many collectors). It's quite interesting. I've been to the factory and it's spectacular. They only make around 20k pieces a year. They are opening more and more high end boutiques and I think that will get more eye balls. So, it's a fantastic brand...but most people just don't really know it or think of it after Patek or AP or others.

13 July 2024, 02:59 AM	#9
vliberman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: los angeles Posts: 283	Overseas line is a knock off of Genta designs, people prefer originals hence advantage AP/ PP. 222 line was discontinued until recently so VC was missing original design in the category. This is changing but lack of SS is a problem. Traditional line of watches is interesting but generally such watches were out of favor. Further, competition in traditional category is fierce. Too many entrants with similar or better provenance. Brands like Lange, Patek and FPJ are head and shoulders above VC in terms of perception. Omega and Rolex are not competitors of VC.

13 July 2024, 03:40 AM	#10
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,662	I kind of like them! ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

13 July 2024, 04:42 AM	#15
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,121	Nice set Ken. Love the cornes de vache. __________________

13 July 2024, 05:01 AM	#16
unsprung "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2024 Location: GER Posts: 12	„Appreciation“ is not just a matter of quality products, but also a matter of marketing and such. Vacheron makes some great watches, got two of them myself. They‘re just not as „good“ at marketing. On the plus side, they‘re a good choice, if you want a watch that‘s not recognized by everyone.

13 July 2024, 06:46 AM	#21
PhilLynott "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Illinois Watch: Breguet marine Posts: 752	Love mine and got an unreal deal on it was less than a 41mm sub on secondary. Think I'd rather have this: __________________ Breguet 5547BB Marine Alarm, 7067 Tradition, 5817 Marine Black, Blue, Silver Patek Philippe 5134P, 5205G-013 Omega NTTD Seamaster Vacheron Constantin FiftySix Complete Calendar Glashutte Original PanomaticLunar Chopard Alpine Eagle

13 July 2024, 10:13 AM	#23
NYG1121 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NE Posts: 2,838	@HL65. Incredible VC lineup! That 1921 is on my radar. How do you compare the size/wear to the others? I had the overseas but it was a tad too big for reference. __________________ Instagram @awristcheck

13 July 2024, 08:14 PM	#27
cascavel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 1,870	It's only stainless steel sport watches that get outsized amounts of love. Hence Rolex, Royal Oak (all other Audemars' are shunned), Aquanaut, Nautilus. When Lange produced the stainless Odysseus it was sold out before it came out. No one really cares about Omega except for the Snoopy. Sure, you have to own one OSP to be a real collector on the condition that you never wear it. Vacheron had the 222 but changed the design so much by the time the luxury sport watch craze hit that no one knew anything about its history and Vacheron failed to reintroduce it in a timely fashion.

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