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26 October 2019, 03:25 AM | #1 |
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BUYER BEWARE: miki1980_onlyfinewatches. FAKE end links and RACIST rant
I bought a pair of 571 end links from @Miki1980_onyfinewatches that arrived a couple days ago. He said they were used and resealed but insisted they were authentic. They arrived in a resealed blister pack with the sticker ripped of, but looked new.
They arrived and didn’t fit my 6263 — the links were too wide to fit between the lugs. I measured them and they measured bigger than 19 mm and bigger than the lug width of my 6263. Here is a video measuring the link width and lug width. https://youtu.be/1R6hsFNqaw8 I’ve bought many new end links and ALL of them work perfectly right out the blister. In the same envelope he sent me a pair of new 550 end links. They measured a perfect 20.00 mm, no bending or grinding required. I told Miki that the links didn’t fit, sent him the video, and asked to send them back for a refund. I even knocked some off the refund for his trouble. Miki said that he sourced them for me from someone else so he didn’t want to buy them back. I told him he was probably swindled and should make sure he’s buying and selling authentic stuff. He told me that Rolex would sell end links extra wide so they could be GROUND DOWN to fit properly. I talked to Phil Ridley, who services all my watches, to ask around and he and all the people he asked never heard of Rolex selling external parts that would need to be ground down by the user. Miki couldn’t explain why the authentic 550 links he sent me were a perfect 20.00mm. I did a little digging and found people talking about DW reproduction 571 end links that were too big: see this link: https://rwg.cc/topic/115163-dw-571-end-links/ . This is probably what Miki sold me, claiming they were real. I was very polite towards Miki. I only wanted to return on the fake 571s, not the real 550s. But Miki absolutely flipped out at me for asking for a return, calling me a greedy Jew. Then he went on an antisemetic screed about how jews dominate the world and treat others like a foot mattress. If the links were authentic, I would have kept them. But they weren’t, so I wanted to send them back. Instead I get an unhinged racist rant. See for yourself. I HIGHLY suggest you AVOID dealing with Miki. If he sells you a fake part like he sold me, he will be absolutely impossible to deal with. His actions and despicable morality speak for themselves. |
26 October 2019, 04:23 AM | #2 |
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These rantings are appalling.
I will shortly ask this Miki to provide evidence that the above screenshot is not exactly as shown. It doesn't look doctored but these days it is easier than ever before. Should this not occur Miki will be banned from this place.
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26 October 2019, 04:29 AM | #3 |
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Can't find him here in any variation of "miki".
Is he a member here? Not that it matters as a general warning to others.
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26 October 2019, 05:04 AM | #4 | |
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Of course the chat is not doctored, but feel free to ask him for contrary evidence. Regardless of a dispute over a part, his racism is inexcusable. it is shocking that people like that exist in the world, let alone our watch community. |
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26 October 2019, 06:58 AM | #5 |
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I’m actually shocked and amazed that someone (regardless of blame) would actually have these thoughts let all. commit those vile words to any form of written message.
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26 October 2019, 07:53 AM | #6 |
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Bwoah! How to bork your business over a few endlinks. And some harbored racist crap.
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26 October 2019, 11:11 AM | #7 |
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Wow, that’s really too bad, sorry to see all this. There is no excuse for this type of behavior.
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26 October 2019, 11:58 AM | #8 |
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BUYER BEWARE: miki1980_onlyfinewatches. FAKE end links and RACIST rant
Inexcusable behavior. Let’s agree on that point.
When one ventures out into IG, FB, CL, etc. you get abusive sellers along with the ride. I think the OP’s story helps support the reason TRF (with trusted sellers here) is a top spot on the Internet. As for the bad 571 endlink deal and the fallout: So...OP...is this your guy? He harbors some real mental issues to behave towards anyone (much less a repeat customer) in the manner you shared. Those texts are damning. I also see an implicit threat/leverage you exerted to compel a refund. Did you “out him” on Instagram where you found him? I’m not ranting - just asking. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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26 October 2019, 11:04 PM | #9 | |
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I have only posted here, and did not "out" him on IG. I also alerted some Jewish people in the watch community to watch out. Also just realized the video was private; should work now. |
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26 October 2019, 11:22 PM | #10 |
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Regardless of the tit for tat exchange.
My God, thats really really appalling. Believe me i am not a wallflower kind of guy in the slightest. His reply and repeated anti semitism is beyond belief. He mentions the 2nd World War, this guy is not fit to clean my Grandfathers or my Wife's Grandfathers boots. Post his rants on IG, lets see how he gets on in business and life. |
26 October 2019, 11:23 PM | #11 |
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Yes, this guy is a bad apple. Needs to be rooted out.
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27 October 2019, 02:42 AM | #12 |
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Disgraceful behaviour...very unpleasant individual
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7 November 2019, 05:21 PM | #13 |
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A business transaction is a exchange of currency versus goods....... How on gods green earth does race or religion have to come into it. People like this need a 21st century education.
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8 November 2019, 02:43 AM | #14 |
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For those who want an update, there has been no change and no money back. I have alerted a few Jewish people in the community to watch out for this guy, but other than that I have not pursued it further.
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8 November 2019, 03:36 AM | #15 |
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Have you ousted him on IG?
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8 November 2019, 04:26 AM | #16 |
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This is disgusting behavior. Hope you get all your money back.
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25 January 2024, 08:00 AM | #17 |
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I know it’s an old thread but I can only second this. Incredibly rude, at best „questionable“ quality and provenance of the parts. I will definitely stay away from the seller and can only recommend to do the same. Also goes by the alias „Michele P.“. Also tries to convince you by showing screenshots of other successful trades. Scammer vibes all the way.
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