AD’s are telling me that they can get a steel Daytona faster than a Pepsi

[Djoker48]

What is going on? Are these artificial games by Rolex?

What I’m unable to reconcile: There are more 2024 Pepsis on C24 than all previous years and the year isn’t even done yet. While many of them would be repeat or ghost listings in true C24 fashion, this would also apply to previous years making the comparison like to like

Net: Hearing the above from ADs I trust, less Pepsi NWA incomings than previous years yet the numbers not supporting this supposed scarcity. I’m not sure how to reconcile the two

[123Blueface]

To me it’s simply demand and supply.
The only consistency is consumer demand will be ever evolving.

[Manamana]

Next batch may be a Pepsi batch and the Daytona will be scarce. Looks like Rolex concentrating on churning out the new Daytona model. Pepsi will always be there, no discontinuation, no two women only doing the red/blue bezel, no breakage of red/blue bezel.

[OTX]

My dealer in Milwaukee who is a straight shooter told me the same thing. He said people have no idea how hard is it to get a Pepsi. Heard same from friends all over the country. I’m guessing there might be some truth to the manufacturing issues or Rolex is cutting production on purpose to make it the next Daytona. Who knows!

[Divingdeep87]

Same from my AD/friend.

[cdmorenot]

Same here. A few days ago I replied to a thread detailing what my AD has gotten over the past 19 - 21 months while still waiting for a single BLRO to come through.

This particular AD I have an exceptional relationship with and I completely trust them.

[SubDate]

Total speculation, but curious if the reason why Pepsis are so rare is because they are phasing out for a Coke in 2025? Who knows.

[CH69]

Does it make the Daytona easier to get? Or just harder for the Pepsi?

[Djoker48]

Originally Posted by SubDate

Total speculation, but curious if the reason why Pepsis are so rare is because they are phasing out for a Coke in 2025? Who knows.

But that's the thing: they're rare qualitatively not not quantitatively basis C24 data

[wm82]

It's cause they use the bezel inserts on the white gold pieces rather than the steel. Ask your AD how hard it is to get a wg pepsi.... That's right.

[omar-rye]

People might think getting a Pepsi allocation is more realistic than landing a stainless steel Daytona, especially up until recently. Because of that, there are more GMT buyers and people asking for it compared to Daytona buyers. The Daytona has this vibe that makes a lot of people hesitate to even ask for it without a solid purchase history.

[Mystro]

Seriously doubt it. Talk is cheap, take them up on it and see what happens. It’s just another GMT with a workhorse movement so hardly more rare than any other GMT. The production GMT numbers are split in half to each bracelet configuration so what might seem like less production is really not. History has shown people won’t even ask for Daytona anymore as it’s in another level of “not gonna happen”.

This new “rare GMT” narrative seems to be a way of moving the BLRO up to increase its AD bundling potential.

[Marcjvr]

Good news for Pepsi flippers I guess

[Guppydriver]

To be fair though..

A Pepsi is one watch..

A Steel Daytona consists of two..

Between the black and white dial, I’d assume there are more Daytona’s produced than BLRO’s

[CH69]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

People might think getting a Pepsi allocation is more realistic than landing a stainless steel Daytona, especially up until recently. Because of that, there are more GMT buyers and people asking for it compared to Daytona buyers. The Daytona has this vibe that makes a lot of people hesitate to even ask for it without a solid purchase history.

Quite true. I know a lot of friends who think that way. Sometimes it is also a result of the subtle signals that they sense from some ADs as well.

[JRell]

Ask 100 ADs, get 100 different answers. Either SS Daytona is much harder to get at my AD.

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by Guppydriver

To be fair though..

A Pepsi is one watch..

A Steel Daytona consists of two..

Between the black and white dial, I’d assume there are more Daytona’s produced than BLRO’s

Agreed! Good analysis

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[cdmorenot]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

People might think getting a Pepsi allocation is more realistic than landing a stainless steel Daytona, especially up until recently. Because of that, there are more GMT buyers and people asking for it compared to Daytona buyers. The Daytona has this vibe that makes a lot of people hesitate to even ask for it without a solid purchase history.

Interesting theory and you may be on to something here!

[ronricks]

Pepsi is not ‘rare’ or scarce. It’s a mass produced modern Rolex. People are so gullible.

[Cassian739]

My AD said similar, both a VERY difficult, but Pepsi is harder as they just don't get as many.

[Djoker48]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

People might think getting a Pepsi allocation is more realistic than landing a stainless steel Daytona, especially up until recently. Because of that, there are more GMT buyers and people asking for it compared to Daytona buyers. The Daytona has this vibe that makes a lot of people hesitate to even ask for it without a solid purchase history.

Originally Posted by ronricks

Pepsi is not ‘rare’ or scarce. It’s a mass produced modern Rolex. People are so gullible.

It’s all relative. Everybody here knows it’s a mass produced watch. It’s not as rare as say a Lange or Vacheron. But could it be scarcer than the submariner, batman or others? Possibly yes.

[Roddypeepa]

Originally Posted by Djoker48

It’s all relative. Everybody here knows it’s a mass produced watch. It’s not as rare as say a Lange or Vacheron. But could it be scarcer than the submariner, batman or others? Possibly yes.

Definitely rarer than Batman or sub. But not rare - and if there are really fewer coming though it’s games. I’m not having that Rolex can’t produce a bezel reliably that they’ve been making for around a decade.
Such a cool watch though. Epic.


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[SLWoodster]

Your problem is that you trust the ADs.

Originally Posted by Djoker48

What is going on? Are these artificial games by Rolex?

What I’m unable to reconcile: There are more 2024 Pepsis on C24 than all previous years and the year isn’t even done yet. While many of them would be repeat or ghost listings in true C24 fashion, this would also apply to previous years making the comparison like to like

Net: Hearing the above from ADs I trust, less Pepsi NWA incomings than previous years yet the numbers not supporting this supposed scarcity. I’m not sure how to reconcile the two

[Djoker48]

Originally Posted by SLWoodster

Your problem is that you trust the ADs.

I already have both the black and white Daytona and a Pepsi. He has no reason to lie to me and it’s evident that a bunch of others have have heard the same

[jb335]

C24 listing counts are not a good indicator.

Dealers use that to create leads. Makes sense the current year would have the most since most people want newer. Better at lead creation.

And for those that don’t understand why, it’s because once you contact the grey they will say that particular watch just sold but they can source you another one. Which they can. This way they don’t have to carry actual inventory.

And it’s not “like to like” for year because they will delete older ones because depending on profile you are limited in listing counts and again, fresher years will generate more leads.

I’m not guessing here. I know this as fact.


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[Calatrava r]

I have heard the BLRO is slow to be delivered from ADs. Maybe they just don't want to sell me one. LOL

[jb335]

Originally Posted by Djoker48

But that's the thing: they're rare qualitatively not not quantitatively basis C24 data

Easy. You’re looking at bad data. The c24 numbers


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[azmousss]

AD told me clearly i can be considered for ss daytona and have it realistically within a year or so however forget about the pepsi.

[azmousss]

touché , i think this is spot on

[jamesgames]

Well we'll see which comes in first for me (IF it comes in) - picked up the BLNR / SUB41 within last year and I asked my AD to put me down for jubilee 126710 BLRO / 126500 white dial.