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DK-3400 · 18 January 2013, 06:57 AM

I've studied this watch for a while, since i really like it! But i've spotted an irregularity in the photos on the web, AND also on this forum.

It is my understanding that the genuine 5167 is supposed to have Swiss Made written at the 6 hour mark. But a lot of the photos posted, does not have this, while a lot do have it? Is there a second version (what serial number then?) of the Aquanaut, which doesn't have Swiss Made written at the 6 hour mark?

kilyung · 18 January 2013, 07:01 AM

5167 does not have "Swiss Made".
http://www.patek.com/contents/defaul...67_1A_001.html

dddrees · 18 January 2013, 07:13 AM

No swiss made here.

DK-3400 · 18 January 2013, 07:13 AM

But, most of the people i would say to be pretty legit about their watches, not to mention any names, their versions do have it.
An example.

DK-3400 · 18 January 2013, 07:14 AM

oh man now this is bugging me! Are their to versions available?

DK-3400 · 18 January 2013, 07:19 AM

i just browsed through the Patek stock photos, and they do NOT have the swiss made, but when using the 360 view, i would say that the watch DO have swiss made written.

Some of you wise men must know, since this no-vice her is definitely confused :D

DK-3400 · 18 January 2013, 07:33 AM

maybe i should have posted this in the Patek Philippe section. If a mod sees this, would you please move it?

dddrees · 18 January 2013, 08:23 AM

It appears as it is under my 6 marker on my 5711, but I don't see it on my 5167.

These kind of differences do occur all the time with Rolex dials from time to time.

It may have been used at some point on the 5167 but I'm not sure.

DK-3400 · 18 January 2013, 08:30 AM

The 5711 just say Swiss, correct?
Most curious, but the only upgrade i'm aware of is the 2mm jump from the ref:5165 to the latest ref:5167

easiest would be to write a mail to Patek, but if someone here could pitch in with an answer, it would be much appreciated.

kilyung · 18 January 2013, 08:51 AM

My 5711, 5712, 5980 have all had SWISS but I've never seen it on a 5167.

dddrees · 18 January 2013, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DK-3400

The 5711 just say Swiss, correct?
Most curious, but the only upgrade i'm aware of is the 2mm jump from the ref:5165 to the latest ref:5167

easiest would be to write a mail to Patek, but if someone here could pitch in with an answer, it would be much appreciated.

I had a hard time telling for sure on mine. It's rather small and I couldn't tell for sure. I don't have a lupe and I tried to tell with a magnifying glass.

Stuxnet · 18 January 2013, 09:13 AM

Mine has "Swiss" on the left of the vertical bar lume marker, and "Made" on the right side of it. So mine has "Swiss Made".

MoosicPa · 18 January 2013, 09:51 AM

My 5167 does have "Swiss Made" on the bottom of the dial.... bought it last year new from my AD... I have no reason to believe it not to be authentic....

dddrees · 18 January 2013, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

No swiss made here.

Oops, looks like mine is fake.

Mauiguy · 18 January 2013, 04:39 PM

Swiss Made R version. I believe 5176's made after 2011 had this.

P.S. I'm the first owner. The watch came from an authorized PP dealer.

DK-3400 · 18 January 2013, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

Oops, looks like mine is fake.

hold on hold on! Don't rush to any conclusions yet! I've asked Patek about this now, lets see

snowpea · 18 January 2013, 09:15 PM

Can't wait, need to know myself.

andyboy39 · 18 January 2013, 09:19 PM

Interesting....

Puffy · 18 January 2013, 09:20 PM

here's mine... from 2012. has swiss made

dddrees · 18 January 2013, 09:45 PM

Maybe mine isn't fake.

Maybe, I'm the one with the super rare dial.

Can anyone say "lottery"?

Preacher · 18 January 2013, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

Maybe mine isn't fake.

Maybe, I'm the one with the super rare dial.

Can anyone say "lottery"?

Does yours have the PP seal or the older Geneve seal on the movement?

dddrees · 18 January 2013, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preacher

Does yours have the PP seal or the older Geneve seal on the movement?

The older Geneve seal.

Puffy · 18 January 2013, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

Maybe mine isn't fake.

Maybe, I'm the one with the super rare dial.

Can anyone say "lottery"?

Dan, I'm going to start the 5167 dial internet hype and say that you have a very very rare dial!

commands at least a £3294 premium if ever sold

dddrees · 18 January 2013, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

Dan, I'm going to start the 5167 dial internet hype and say that you have a very very rare dial!

commands at least a £3294 premium if ever sold

Yeah!!!!!!!!!

DK-3400 · 24 January 2013, 09:22 AM

No word from Patek Costumer support, guess its just such a small fish.
Feel free to pitch in with a conclusive anwser. :-)

myopiccoog · 24 January 2013, 11:53 PM

After this post originally I have see some more without the Swiss made. I wonder if it was the first run or what. I think it is pretty cool. Would love to get an estimate on how many are like this for fun

JDTX · 25 January 2013, 09:52 AM

Mine has it.

Preacher · 25 January 2013, 07:37 PM

Mine has it too.

inspires · 25 January 2013, 08:21 PM

Mine purchased in 2012 has it.

dddrees · 26 January 2013, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myopiccoog

After this post originally I have see some more without the Swiss made. I wonder if it was the first run or what. I think it is pretty cool. Would love to get an estimate on how many are like this for fun

Well, we can start with mine, that's 1.

18 January 2013, 06:57 AM	#1
DK-3400 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 47	Regarding Patek Philippe 5167 Aquanaut dial I've studied this watch for a while, since i really like it! But i've spotted an irregularity in the photos on the web, AND also on this forum. It is my understanding that the genuine 5167 is supposed to have Swiss Made written at the 6 hour mark. But a lot of the photos posted, does not have this, while a lot do have it? Is there a second version (what serial number then?) of the Aquanaut, which doesn't have Swiss Made written at the 6 hour mark?

18 January 2013, 07:19 AM	#6
DK-3400 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 47	i just browsed through the Patek stock photos, and they do NOT have the swiss made, but when using the 360 view, i would say that the watch DO have swiss made written. Some of you wise men must know, since this no-vice her is definitely confused :D Last edited by DK-3400; 18 January 2013 at 07:25 AM.. Reason: definitely

18 January 2013, 08:23 AM	#8
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	It appears as it is under my 6 marker on my 5711, but I don't see it on my 5167. These kind of differences do occur all the time with Rolex dials from time to time. It may have been used at some point on the 5167 but I'm not sure. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

18 January 2013, 09:15 PM	#17
snowpea "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Steven Location: Jazoom Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 1,092	Can't wait, need to know myself. __________________

18 January 2013, 09:20 PM	#19
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	here's mine... from 2012. has swiss made __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

18 January 2013, 07:01 AM	#2
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,938	5167 does not have "Swiss Made". http://www.patek.com/contents/defaul...67_1A_001.html

18 January 2013, 07:13 AM	#4
DK-3400 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 47	But, most of the people i would say to be pretty legit about their watches, not to mention any names, their versions do have it. An example.

18 January 2013, 07:14 AM	#5
DK-3400 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 47	oh man now this is bugging me! Are their to versions available?

18 January 2013, 07:33 AM	#7
DK-3400 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 47	maybe i should have posted this in the Patek Philippe section. If a mod sees this, would you please move it?

18 January 2013, 08:30 AM	#9
DK-3400 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 47	The 5711 just say Swiss, correct? Most curious, but the only upgrade i'm aware of is the 2mm jump from the ref:5165 to the latest ref:5167 easiest would be to write a mail to Patek, but if someone here could pitch in with an answer, it would be much appreciated.

18 January 2013, 08:51 AM	#10
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,938	My 5711, 5712, 5980 have all had SWISS but I've never seen it on a 5167.

18 January 2013, 09:13 AM	#12
Stuxnet Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 570	Mine has "Swiss" on the left of the vertical bar lume marker, and "Made" on the right side of it. So mine has "Swiss Made".

18 January 2013, 09:51 AM	#13
MoosicPa "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Don Location: Moosic PA Watch: King Midas & Subma Posts: 1,159	My 5167 does have "Swiss Made" on the bottom of the dial.... bought it last year new from my AD... I have no reason to believe it not to be authentic....

18 January 2013, 04:39 PM	#15
Mauiguy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hawaiian islands Posts: 1,109	Swiss Made R version. I believe 5176's made after 2011 had this. P.S. I'm the first owner. The watch came from an authorized PP dealer.

18 January 2013, 09:19 PM	#18
andyboy39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Zealand Watch: Day Date Posts: 1,409	Interesting....

18 January 2013, 09:45 PM	#20
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	Maybe mine isn't fake. Maybe, I'm the one with the super rare dial. Can anyone say "lottery"? __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

24 January 2013, 09:22 AM	#25
DK-3400 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 47	No word from Patek Costumer support, guess its just such a small fish. Feel free to pitch in with a conclusive anwser. :-)

24 January 2013, 11:53 PM	#26
myopiccoog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 948	After this post originally I have see some more without the Swiss made. I wonder if it was the first run or what. I think it is pretty cool. Would love to get an estimate on how many are like this for fun

25 January 2013, 09:52 AM	#27
JDTX Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: TX Posts: 132	Mine has it.

25 January 2013, 07:37 PM	#28
Preacher "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middle England Watch: Rolex of course Posts: 526	Mine has it too.

25 January 2013, 08:21 PM	#29
inspires "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Hong Kong Watch: 1665 Posts: 1,495	Mine purchased in 2012 has it. __________________ _____________ All GREEN

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