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Pin Holes · 5 April 2013, 04:09 AM

Was the Rolex Sub 16610 LV ever produced with lug holes?

I have seen a Y serial 2002 without and wondered if they were all like that

Freedom fighter · 5 April 2013, 04:18 AM

As far as I'm aware, no they did not. Without a doubt PADI will be along in a min and give you a more in depth answer.

PanosI · 5 April 2013, 04:29 AM

The first and only one that presented in the Basel watch show.

Johny · 5 April 2013, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PanosI

The first and only one that presented in the Basel watch show.

hi p...that's news. was there actually one with lugholes at the show? wonder if jocke has pics?

p.

HRV · 5 April 2013, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PanosI

The first and only one that presented in the Basel watch show.

I agree

PanosI · 5 April 2013, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

hi p...that's news. was there actually one with lugholes at the show? wonder if jocke has pics?

p.

Hi Johny

I didn't mention it above, but Jocke actually bought this first one and now has it in his magnificent collection

Here is a pic from the show

padi56 · 5 April 2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PanosI

The first and only one that presented in the Basel watch show.

Not quite true it was in the Basel press release pictures but none were ever released for retail sale so don't believe the many internet myths.

padi56 · 5 April 2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pin Holes

Was the Rolex Sub 16610 LV ever produced with lug holes?

I have seen a Y serial 2002 without and wondered if they were all like that

Well seeing that the LV was not released till Basel 2003 and was not for retail sale till the latter of 2003.

Chris B · 5 April 2013, 05:37 PM

A fabled creature, on a par with the legendary Oozlum Bird, after much searching you think you’ve finally caught one but look what happens when you creep up on them ,

HL65 · 5 April 2013, 07:24 PM

Answer to your question: No. As Peter said only a press release no such watch ever released. The first Y series one released in 03' had no lug holes.

Passionata · 5 April 2013, 08:02 PM

AFAIK the reason they used a lughole version in the press release to screw up the fakers

padi56 · 5 April 2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Passionata

AFAIK the reason they used a lughole version in the press release to screw up the fakers

Not true over the yearss Rolex has made quite a few errors in there literature even on there own web site.

Johny · 5 April 2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PanosI

Hi Johny

I didn't mention it above, but Jocke actually bought this first one and now has it in his magnificent collection

Here is a pic from the show

wondered where jocke got it. great pics panos. thank you.

joe100 · 6 April 2013, 02:34 AM

I'll second that. No LV was ever sold with lug holes

impalass · 6 April 2013, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PanosI

Hi Johny

I didn't mention it above, but Jocke actually bought this first one and now has it in his magnificent collection

Here is a pic from the show

If I remember correctly Jockes is actually an older 16610 that he modded, being the watch wizard that he is.

patek.wis · 6 April 2013, 02:59 AM

Agreed. I saw the very first LV to land in Canada according to the Rolex rep at the store and it had no lug holes
The very first fakes had Lug holes - that was the giveaway

Jocke · 6 April 2013, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

wondered where jocke got it. great pics panos. thank you.

The pic at VRF is mine and I have seen the watch in the display. There have never been one for sale because between
the Basel show and the release of the 16610LV so did the lug hole straight thru the case disappear.

Jocke · 6 April 2013, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by impalass

If I remember correctly Jockes is actually an older 16610 that he modded, being the watch wizard that he is.

Correctomundo, it's aregular 16610 made in 1991.

From a 16610 to a 16610LV

Johny · 6 April 2013, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

The pic at VRF is mine and I have seen the watch in the display. There have never been one for sale because between
the Basel show and the release of the 16610LV so did the lug hole straight thru the case disappear.

evening jocke.

Jocke · 6 April 2013, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny

evening jocke.

Evening my friend.

Rashid.bk · 6 April 2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Correctomundo, it's aregular 16610 made in 1991.

From a 16610 to a 16610LV

Jocke, that LEC pic is so sick, best LEC pic ever.

DoubleRedRolex · 15 March 2024, 03:58 AM

I know this is an old thread but it should be corrected. The very first run of the new 16610LV was six watches (aprox late 2002) now known as mk0. They had lug holes. They went to the Rolex executives. . So there’s a few out there. The mk1 when it was made had no lug holes. And for everyone wondering yes it’s the exact same case and bracelet as the 16610 from the same era. There was a lot of franken LV’s sold 10 years ago. People would take a genuine maxy dials and a green bezel instert and double the value of their watch. But without the LV paperwork tied to the serial number, it’s just really a 16610 with a dial and bezel swap.

Dirt · 15 March 2024, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Not quite true it was in the Basel press release pictures but none were ever released for retail sale so don't believe the many internet myths.

This 100%👍

harvey · 15 March 2024, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DoubleRedRolex

I know this is an old thread but it should be corrected. The very first run of the new 16610LV was six watches (aprox late 2002) now known as mk0. They had lug holes. They went to the Rolex executives. . So there’s a few out there. The mk1 when it was made had no lug holes. And for everyone wondering yes it’s the exact same case and bracelet as the 16610 from the same era. There was a lot of franken LV’s sold 10 years ago. People would take a genuine maxy dials and a green bezel instert and double the value of their watch. But without the LV paperwork tied to the serial number, it’s just really a 16610 with a dial and bezel swap.

How do you know that? Have you seen any genuine pix?

watchwatcher · 15 March 2024, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

How do you know that? Have you seen any genuine pix?

Curious as well.

subtona · 15 March 2024, 11:10 PM

If it was I would own it.:) lugholes are the best!

brandrea · 15 March 2024, 11:16 PM

And the legend grows ….

harvey · 16 March 2024, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

And the BS grows ….

I’ve corrected that for you…

brandrea · 16 March 2024, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

I’ve corrected that for you…

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karleone · 16 March 2024, 12:20 AM

For all the ones saying it never existed.
16610LV with lug holes at Baselworld 2003.
It might be a prototype that has never been sold in the market but it has definitely existed.

5 April 2013, 04:09 AM	#1
Pin Holes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA/Europe Posts: 8	16610 LV with lug holes? Was the Rolex Sub 16610 LV ever produced with lug holes? I have seen a Y serial 2002 without and wondered if they were all like that

5 April 2013, 07:24 PM	#10
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,869	Answer to your question: No. As Peter said only a press release no such watch ever released. The first Y series one released in 03' had no lug holes. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

5 April 2013, 08:02 PM	#11
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	AFAIK the reason they used a lughole version in the press release to screw up the fakers __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

6 April 2013, 02:34 AM	#14
joe100 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,834	I'll second that. No LV was ever sold with lug holes __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

15 March 2024, 11:10 PM	#26
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,303	If it was I would own it.:) lugholes are the best! __________________

5 April 2013, 04:18 AM	#2
Freedom fighter Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Bill Location: London Watch: SS yachtmaster Posts: 202	As far as I'm aware, no they did not. Without a doubt PADI will be along in a min and give you a more in depth answer.

5 April 2013, 04:29 AM	#3
PanosI 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Panos Location: Athens, Greece Watch: 16710 Posts: 8,704	The first and only one that presented in the Basel watch show.

5 April 2013, 05:37 PM	#9
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	A fabled creature, on a par with the legendary Oozlum Bird, after much searching you think you’ve finally caught one but look what happens when you creep up on them ,

6 April 2013, 02:59 AM	#16
patek.wis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Will Location: Canada Watch: The Sky Posts: 1,824	Agreed. I saw the very first LV to land in Canada according to the Rolex rep at the store and it had no lug holes The very first fakes had Lug holes - that was the giveaway

15 March 2024, 03:58 AM	#22
DoubleRedRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Lonnie Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 1680-8 Posts: 80	I know this is an old thread but it should be corrected. The very first run of the new 16610LV was six watches (aprox late 2002) now known as mk0. They had lug holes. They went to the Rolex executives. . So there’s a few out there. The mk1 when it was made had no lug holes. And for everyone wondering yes it’s the exact same case and bracelet as the 16610 from the same era. There was a lot of franken LV’s sold 10 years ago. People would take a genuine maxy dials and a green bezel instert and double the value of their watch. But without the LV paperwork tied to the serial number, it’s just really a 16610 with a dial and bezel swap.

15 March 2024, 11:16 PM	#27
brandrea 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 76,814	And the legend grows ….

16 March 2024, 12:20 AM	#30
karleone "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dayona Posts: 2,269	For all the ones saying it never existed. 16610LV with lug holes at Baselworld 2003. It might be a prototype that has never been sold in the market but it has definitely existed.

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