Ti Odysseus tomorrow?

[diracpoint]

According to the URL leak posted on the main forum, it seems so ...

[GB-man]

Super jealous and awaiting reclaims to post an incoming

[Jimbo]

I've heard about his in other threads and forums. If so, I think that would be awesome. I still won't be able to afford one, but this might be ALS's first foray into a Ti cased watch?

[raclaims]

I have an appointment at Lange tomorrow lol

[pp3355]

Time to sell the steelie

[subtona]

Would be interested.

[raclaims]

I'll post up after my appointment tomorrow with more info

[edhahn44]

Minute repeater as well


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[uniqueMR]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I have an appointment at Lange tomorrow lol

[GreenLantern]

Still waiting on my Steel to arrive after putting in a confirmed order before the pandemic started. So, I suppose Titanium will arrive in 2030.

[raclaims]

I know it’s sucks but the ss is at least worth the wait if that’s possible

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I know it’s sucks but the ss is at least worth the wait if that’s possible

Agreed! Been enjoying the WG one for years now.

[bondtoys]

Could well be that we‘ll see lots of pink gold dials with ALS , too!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipVVo96AsQo&t=46s

[Allanmodel]

Ha.........the titanium odysseus only limited to 250 pieces~~

According to ALS this odysseus is not available for order, its allocated directly from them (HQ)

[charger_vital]

I'm not a huge fan of the watch, but I must say the titanium version with ice blue dial (looks grey-blue to me) is an improvement. Starting to grow on me.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Allanmodel

Ha.........the titanium odysseus only limited to 250 pieces~~

According to ALS this odysseus is not available for order, its allocated directly from them (HQ)

Probably another one of the: Buy three tourbillons and we'll put in a confirmed order for you (just like the Zeitwerk Lumen).

[Allanmodel]

Ice blue

[GreenLantern]

Looks grey to me. Unfortunately.

[Henrimontgomery]

ALS playing very hard to get. You can't get the blue SS or grey TIT unless you're already a very well established client, and if you want the WG model you need to wait years.

I wonder how far they can stretch this. As soon as flippers stop buying and crypto millionaire stop paying premiums, what clientele base left do they have? I myself remember which companies started playing hard to get and will not buy their offerings once the hype fades.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

ALS playing very hard to get. You can't get the blue SS or grey TIT unless you're already a very well established client, and if you want the WG model you need to wait years.

I wonder how far they can stretch this. As soon as flippers stop buying and crypto millionaire stop paying premiums, what clientele base left do they have? I myself remember which companies started playing hard to get and will not buy their offerings once the hype fades.

Agreed.

[cantdrive55]

VERY interested in the RL Minute Repeater in platinum.

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by henrimontgomery

als playing very hard to get. You can't get the blue ss or grey tit unless you're already a very well established client, and if you want the wg model you need to wait years.

I wonder how far they can stretch this. As soon as flippers stop buying and crypto millionaire stop paying premiums, what clientele base left do they have? I myself remember which companies started playing hard to get and will not buy their offerings once the hype fades.

+1

[CFR]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

ALS playing very hard to get. You can't get the blue SS or grey TIT unless you're already a very well established client, and if you want the WG model you need to wait years.

I wonder how far they can stretch this. As soon as flippers stop buying and crypto millionaire stop paying premiums, what clientele base left do they have? I myself remember which companies started playing hard to get and will not buy their offerings once the hype fades.

What would a better sales or marketing strategy look like that is fair to existing/loyal customers, given Lange's relatively small production of about 5000 watches/year and that demand for these products is high right now?

Lange's current strategy is this: Anyone who has the money can walk in off the street and purchase just about any Lange -- way over 90% of their models. No prior history is required, though you may have to wait several months for the watch to be manufactured and to arrive. Lange also offers a very small number of models, such as the steel Odysseus Datomatic and now the titanium (LE of 250) version -- literally just a handful of Lange's models -- only to existing customers who have spent a lot of money (mostly at the boutiques).

I'm curious about suggested other approaches.

I'm not defending Lange's current approach. I understand the strategy, and it makes sense to me, but I don't have strong feelings about it either way.

And I do think Lange would be smart to offer the steel Odysseus Datomatic (which is not a limited edition piece) to anyone who wants it in the future, once existing demand among loyal/repeat customers declines.

[CFR]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Looks grey to me. Unfortunately.

It does look more grey than blue in the pics. One review said the dial color looks like a combination of the other 2 Datomatic dials -- the grey and the blue. Curious what it looks like in person.

[Gotwire]

As of 6am EDT all spoken for already. I’m thinking Lange does allocation before release on these limited pieces.

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by CFR

What would a better sales or marketing strategy look like that is fair to existing/loyal customers, given Lange's relatively small production of about 5000 watches/year and that demand for these products is high right now?

Lange's current strategy is this: Anyone who has the money can walk in off the street and purchase just about any Lange -- way over 90% of their models. No prior history is required, though you may have to wait several months for the watch to be manufactured and to arrive. Lange also offers a very small number of models, such as the steel Odysseus Datomatic and now the titanium (LE of 250) version -- literally just a handful of Lange's models -- only to existing customers who have spent a lot of money (mostly at the boutiques).

I'm curious about suggested other approaches.

I'm not defending Lange's current approach. I understand the strategy, and it makes sense to me, but I don't have strong feelings about it either way.

And I do think Lange would be smart to offer the steel Odysseus Datomatic (which is not a limited edition piece) to anyone who wants it in the future, once existing demand among loyal/repeat customers declines.

The issue with being ultra exclusive and catering to VVIPs only is that once they find something new, you are left with little clientele.

I was invited to their new boutique in Geneva and talked with the manager. Indeed they make very few watches and most of them are on the high range of $$$. But the issue I have with the ALS-O is you can’t get on a list unless you first spend tons of cash. That’s the same as other brands, but this specific model is so out of there you are definitely left with either a full discrepant catalogue to pick from, or just the even more pricey and less interesting WG variant.

When you go to AP you face a similar issue. RO has no alternatives in the catalogue; so it AP tells me I need to buy something, I won’t because nothing is interesting.

Rolex meanwhile, has tons of interesting models. Can’t get the Daytona? No worries I can buy a submariner instead. Cant get the sub? Day date it is.

So people with ample money but also ample responsibilities come to you, you bounce them off, why should they be interested in the brand anymore. You lose this clientele and enter an echo chamber of VVIPs who could get bored and just stop buying your stuff.

Solution to this is simply to open the list, which will become gigantic but so be it, and give some ALS-O to people after a bit. Sure you wait 3 years but you know what, you’re lucky this year and you get one. Also stop producing all these entry level dress watches. It’s the era of sports models. Just like AP should just churn out ROs and try to come up with a worthy opponent, ALS should update its catalogue a bit.

I have the same issue with VC. The new 222 is good but a bit of a farce, yet it’s a new watch that fits the brand and improves upon the same old overpriced watch that looks like a watch with a dead animal skin bracelet.

[uniqueMR]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I have an appointment at Lange tomorrow lol

Heard anything? Looking forward.

I been told all sold out even before public release by Germany HQ

[mps354]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I have an appointment at Lange tomorrow lol

nice, looking forward to your thoughts

[rag5178]

Love the look, but pricing on this one does seem like a little bit of a money grab from Lange. I'm sure these will go way over retail on secondary market anyway so Lange is well within their rights to price this about as high as they want, but just compared to the SS and white gold versions, the price seems a bit inflated.

[Gotwire]

All 250 were pre-allocated by Germany HQ. So they knew who was getting one before release.

Hardly a new model release.

They want you to visit the boutique for this?