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TswaneNguni 27 March 2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Andad (Post 12070879)
Quite a few 2, 3, 4 etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...s%27_Champions

I don’t understand how at this level of professionalism and the multi-millions of dollars involved a driver can be 54 seconds behind the leader with 7 laps to go - continue to fall behind the leader at one second/lap after the race restarts but end up in 4th place only about 8 seconds behind?

The stats will show this for years to come but the truth is that he should have finished about 65 seconds behind the winner.

But it’s all about the excitement.:chuckle::cheers:

Excitement = Much more multi millions of Dollars .

More people are watching this year .

77T 27 March 2022 11:15 PM

The Official Formula One Thread!
 
Glad to hear that MSC is going to be fine - he must be strong from years of physio. His neck shows a lot of effort on a driver’s weakest link.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c2be16ce1d.jpg




The HANS development has saved a lot of drivers in hard head-on hits. The sideways hits not as much - there’s no easy way to do that but halo seats in touring cars and stuff surrounds in single seaters.

Oh, BTW - 15 minutes to the F2 race on ESPN App (ESPN3 in some markets)


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enjoythemusic 27 March 2022 11:41 PM

For those with Motortrend+, the 12 Hour Mugello race was great! Lots of competitve live racing around the world :thumbsup:

Check out Motorsport TV too at https://motorsport.tv/ . I'm watching the 1960 24 Hour Le Mans highlights right now. :)

SDGT3 28 March 2022 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Andad (Post 12070879)
I don’t understand how at this level of professionalism and the multi-millions of dollars involved a driver can be 54 seconds behind the leader with 7 laps to go - continue to fall behind the leader at one second/lap after the race restarts but end up in 4th place only about 8 seconds behind?

The stats will show this for years to come but the truth is that he should have finished about 65 seconds behind the winner.

But it’s all about the excitement.:chuckle::cheers:

What is it about a safety car that you don't understand? :thinking: If referencing the Abu Dhabi race, the irony is that the first race of 2022 had very similar circumstances with the race pretty much over with a handful of laps to go until Gasley's car caught on fire bringing out the SC bunching up the field. Should the FIA allow racing to have gone on with a car on fire on the side of the track so that the gaps are preserved? LH and Mercedes were the beneficiaries of last weekend's race due to the SC.

Goin2drt 28 March 2022 04:32 AM

Nice win by F1’s biggest whiner. Well he tried winning by complaining about everything Leclerc did. Leclerc is a pure gentlemen congratulating the winner. Unlike Max has ever done.

TswaneNguni 28 March 2022 04:37 AM

Bull vs Horse this year ...

bibbi 28 March 2022 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Goin2drt (Post 12071764)
Nice win by F1’s biggest whiner. Well he tried winning by complaining about everything Leclerc did. Leclerc is a pure gentlemen congratulating the winner. Unlike Max has ever done.


Great summary. [emoji106] The whining boy [emoji480] at his best efforts, again.

1st amg 28 March 2022 05:18 AM

What a final 10 laps....exciting!

enjoythemusic 28 March 2022 05:43 AM

Love the Video Gamer move when reaching the DRS line. Reminds me of American football as players have learned Video Game moves to burn the clock before crossing the goal line.

Goin2drt 28 March 2022 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bibbi (Post 12071777)
Great summary. [emoji106] The whining boy [emoji480] at his best efforts, again.

Even his own team had to tell him to shut up and drive and they will worry about the white line. :rofl:

shaunylw 28 March 2022 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Goin2drt (Post 12071764)
Nice win by F1’s biggest whiner. Well he tried winning by complaining about everything Leclerc did. Leclerc is a pure gentlemen congratulating the winner. Unlike Max has ever done.


NFL quarterbacks do it, receivers, pitchers, soccer players, tennis players, and basketball players. It’s universal, they all do it. They all complain about infractions real or not to get their way.

47Fountain 28 March 2022 08:52 AM

Congratulations to Max. Great win today. Can anybody say, "Championship number two" coming up?

asloper6001 28 March 2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Goin2drt (Post 12071764)
Nice win by F1’s biggest whiner. Well he tried winning by complaining about everything Leclerc did. Leclerc is a pure gentlemen congratulating the winner. Unlike Max has ever done.


He congratulated Charles right after the last race. He doesnt have the best personality, but he is a damn good driver.

Goin2drt 28 March 2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by asloper6001 (Post 12072317)
He congratulated Charles right after the last race. He doesnt have the best personality, but he is a damn good driver.

He was the best gamer today no doubt and as they say “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. He was not the best driver today nor had the best car. He played the game well and got the W and that is all that counts. He will need plenty more to make up for the DNF. LeClerc is by far the best so far this season in the best car.

77T 28 March 2022 10:38 AM

Not sure I get the gamer references. Good race today and good racing too.

The tactics switched when VER’s first pass on LEC was answered with a DRS aided re-pass. Clearly made sure to avoid any late-braking diving attempts and changed tactic to avoid next pass before reaching DRS detection line. Second pass stuck and maintained a gap so good car/good skill.

Yes VER is wired differently but gaining better tactical situational awareness as seen in the closing laps...

If anyone wondered if, during the chase, whether the yellows in last 2 laps were honored by either or both of them (or other drivers). Was hard to know from the broadcast, but Stewards left the results alone.

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enjoythemusic 28 March 2022 10:47 AM

Thx 77T, it was a very good race indeed and nice to see the benefits of the new aero spec. It really does make quite the difference.

Andad 28 March 2022 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SDGT3 (Post 12071323)
What is it about a safety car that you don't understand? :thinking: If referencing the Abu Dhabi race, the irony is that the first race of 2022 had very similar circumstances with the race pretty much over with a handful of laps to go until Gasley's car caught on fire bringing out the SC bunching up the field. Should the FIA allow racing to have gone on with a car on fire on the side of the track so that the gaps are preserved? LH and Mercedes were the beneficiaries of last weekend's race due to the SC.

I’m not going to answer a rhetorical question.

The virtual safety car just won another race.

The stats show the time gaps between drivers each time the race was stopped and if you have a look at the times you can see that Mercedes would not have been in the race.

Simply add on the seconds at the end of the race?

Once again V and R we’re going backwards during the race.:chuckle:

But V won and nothing would have saved Leclerc even if he had been the one in front during the last lap.:chuckle:

You must be very excited about that.:cheers:

Shorten the race to a tank full of fuel, throw some tyres on and let them race.

F1 is a fiasco in its current form.

joli160 28 March 2022 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Goin2drt (Post 12071764)
Nice win by F1’s biggest whiner. Well he tried winning by complaining about everything Leclerc did. Leclerc is a pure gentlemen congratulating the winner. Unlike Max has ever done.

You really must hate MV, always so much negativity :cheers:

Speedbird-1 28 March 2022 09:06 PM

The 'anti-racing' tactic, involving the DRS line is nuts.

enjoythemusic 28 March 2022 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedbird-1 (Post 12073054)
The 'anti-racing' tactic, involving the DRS line is nuts.

Nope, it's simple Video Gamer tactics. Surely i'm not the only one who pays attention to eSports???????????

Speedbird-1 28 March 2022 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic (Post 12073305)
Nope, it's simple Video Gamer tactics. Surely i'm not the only one who pays attention to eSports???????????

e...what?

enjoythemusic 29 March 2022 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedbird-1 (Post 12073329)
e...what?

eSports.

You know, the BILLION+ dollar industry. You might not know Justin, but bet you heard of Twitch (he sold it, good for him, great AWESOME guy too!). If you have not heard of Twitch that's cool, but eSports are where it's at for many millions of people globally.

If i was a guessing man, eSports has a better ROI and 'youth targeting' for both those who participate... and for sponsors too. Not for Big Oil of course. Maybe it's an age thing. How young are you Speedbird?

There are a few hobbies right now going through a transition as 'the kids' look at some things as 'for the old guys'. Was chatting with a friend in Europe during the F1 race yesterday, he doesn't watch F1 and says the engines sound like sewing machines.

More sponsors need to take a better position in eSports... for the benefit of their company's future. :smokin:

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Quick Google...

Revenue of the global eSports market 2018-2025
In 2021, the global eSports market was valued at just over 1.08 billion U.S. dollars, an almost 50 percent increase from the previous year. Additionally, the eSports industry's global market revenue was forecast to grow to as much as 1.62 billion U.S. dollars in 2024.

Income is less for players, sure, for now, yet so is The Circus and hardware/engineering costs. But WOW look at that growth trajectory! How is F1's growth trajectory?

SDGT3 29 March 2022 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Andad (Post 12072833)
I’m not going to answer a rhetorical question.

The virtual safety car just won another race.

The stats show the time gaps between drivers each time the race was stopped and if you have a look at the times you can see that Mercedes would not have been in the race.

Simply add on the seconds at the end of the race?

Once again V and R we’re going backwards during the race.:chuckle:

But V won and nothing would have saved Leclerc even if he had been the one in front during the last lap.:chuckle:

You must be very excited about that.:cheers:

Shorten the race to a tank full of fuel, throw some tyres on and let them race.

F1 is a fiasco in its current form.

I'm at a loss of words because I'm not sure you understand "rules" as they are applied for safety in a race. This isn't the "Cannonball Run" and a free for all. There literally were cars and marshalls on track pushing disabled cars in the pit lane.

From what I saw, VER was going to win this race regardless of a VSC or not and the reason why I say that is that while they were running in the middle part of the race Max maintained a gap of 1.1-1.4 seconds behind LEC. He was stalking LEC, saving his tires, maintaining the gap and waiting for the last 10 laps and LEC could not pull away. The trailing car is now able to maintain such a gap where previously the trailing car needed to be 2-3 sec. behind due to dirty air. The 2022 regs are working and the results are showing.

On that note, 2022 has been a great year so far for close, hard, but clean racing. RBR is the constant up front and the only change has been Ferrari for MB. It's fantastic to see LEC and VER battling and the mutual respect no only on track but between team bosses at RBR and Ferrari. Toto and Hamilton should take notes on how to be more professional.

rolexpatek363 29 March 2022 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by joli160 (Post 12072859)
You really must hate MV, always so much negativity :cheers:

Crashstappen is such a likeable fellow.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/amE4Z606Oxw

Doc Savage 29 March 2022 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shaunylw (Post 12072087)
NFL quarterbacks do it, receivers, pitchers, soccer players, tennis players, and basketball players. It’s universal, they all do it. They all complain about infractions real or not to get their way.

I'm sorry, you can't compare soccer players to any other sport. They are several levels of ridiculous beyond any other sport :agree:

shaunylw 29 March 2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 12074425)
I'm sorry, you can't compare soccer players to any other sport. They are several levels of ridiculous beyond any other sport :agree:


That’s a fair call out [emoji1787]. The flopping they do is legendary.

SDGT3 29 March 2022 08:50 AM

Anyone notice that a driver in a HAAS and who wasn't even in F1 last year beat Lewis Hamilton in a Mercedes in a straight up fight yesterday and finished in front of him? Just curious because I've always been told that it's not the car by HAM fans.... :rofl:

airchitect 29 March 2022 08:14 PM

So what would it take to get the cars back to v10 spec with at least 1200hp and as little aero as possible…..[emoji848] that would be a show… grisly, but a show nonetheless.


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1st amg 29 March 2022 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by airchitect (Post 12075550)
So what would it take to get the cars back to v10 spec with at least 1200hp and as little aero as possible…..[emoji848] that would be a show… grisly, but a show nonetheless.


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I wish...this is something I would love for my 14 yr old boy who is F1 crazy for the last couple of years. He is constantly watching old F1 races of the past to hear and listen to the car's engine notes. He compares them to the cars of this era and he always says "I wish I could hear the old cars live"

enjoythemusic 29 March 2022 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by airchitect (Post 12075550)
So what would it take to get the cars back to v10 spec with at least 1200hp and as little aero as possible…..[emoji848] that would be a show… grisly, but a show nonetheless.

Well, first they'll need to drop the facade of 'greening' F1... considering the MANY private jets, large qty of transportation, massive yachts....

You know, real fuel, etc. But doubt that'll happen as F1 has succumbed to many influences and sponsorship that have made the 'sport' it is today. Hey, lest's admit F1 was great while it lasted.

I've been having a great time watching carting, Nurburgring races, etc. as there's apps and whatnot. i do like seeing some of the repaving on the 'ring. :thumbsup:


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