The problem with the rules is that they have got people with a lot of intelligence involved and have made it complicated and open to interpretation. It is quite an easy rule to apply.

"Once the car is fully stopped, no person can touch the car, no machinery or tools can touch or be placed under the car until it has completed a 5 second penalty."

The other thing that could be addressed is that FIA should give their ruling to the team but don't make it public until they have had chance to appeal.

I am glad that good sense has been applied and that Alonso has his place back.

Yes F1 Sporting Regs 54.4c)

“Whilst a car is stationary in the pit lane as a result of incurring a penalty in accordance with Articles 54.3a) or 54.3b) above, it may not be worked on until the car has been stationary for the duration of the penalty.”

Those articles are 5-sec or 10-sec, respectively.

As to the idea of flipping the sequence, the servicing is faster when done last. It allows the team X seconds to adjust to any positional anomaly after the driver comes to a stop. Also, the driver is always ready to go when the jacks are dropped.


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Cool one Paul :thumbsup:

PS: Much cooler than a Pharrell music video.

In reading the news today regarding this, I think, publicly at least, that both Alonso and Russell were incredibly gracious. Alonso by saying Russell was robbed of being on the podium to celebrate, and Russell by saying he thought the penalties were excessive.

First class guys, both.

Opposite of Verstappen

He seems incapable of humility or graciousness. He’s very talented, but I can’t bring myself to be a fan.

x2.. and he could hardly care.. Seems to be a 'me' kinda guy. Whatever..:boring:

I know it’s early but McLaren is in for a tough season it looks like

The RB car is something else, the way it passed the Merc like it was standing still

Reminds me of when the Merc was unbeatable...and when Ferrari was unbeatable...etc etc.. The tide has changed once again.

He gets it from his old man. While watching the post race, as Checo was getting his congratulations from his team, you could see the contempt on Jos Verstappen's face. He could barely allow himself to even acknowledge Checo. Just an incredible display of poor sportsmanship.

I understand if you don't like Verstappen, but I don't think he should have said a single word about this incident! It wasn't about him and it wasn't even about his team. In addition, as you can see, the decision was changed later, so he remained much smarter than those who were smart before the game was over - like me, for example. It wasn't his cup of tea. Honestly I don't know why and what role he should have been taken in this issue.

In my opinion he simply aspired to do what comes from his character, to lead the F1 driver's championship. In my opinion, he was not happy just because he was not able to catch the leader. It was NOT about Perez, but it was about to finish at the 2nd place. And now, please take a closer look at Checco's face WHEN he realized that he was NOT leading the championship "but is only second", because Max took the fastest lap from him at the last moment. That's what clearly shows, who don't know his place in between the best pilots. That was what maked me absolutely sure, that in the last year in Monaco that was NOT an unwanted incident but a deliberate action from Perez. Let me remind that Alonso was able to overtake him and could hold him back as long as there was no DRS. Now imagine the same with Max and laugh out loud Checco's "dreams" about that he can have a chance to win the F1 drivers championship as a teammate of any other men from the best pilots.

He's Dutch, isn't he?
I find it difficult to think well of him, after walking away from Lewis, potentially trapped under the RB (Monza 2021).
Arrogance personified!

Ask Vettel.

https://youtu.be/lkAoSghdD6Y

I really liked hearing both those guys discussing that situation. Like you said...pure class.

What I thought was not class was Hamilton in the media pen afterwards...
Media: "you must be happy that George got on the podium?"
Ham: "That's got nothing to do with me"

Poor Hamilton...can't win or beat his teammate and now he doesn't want to play anymore. Bitter.

I think you're right... Jos was not the best human being when he was a driver. Max is infinitely more talented than his old man and with that comes a certain level of responsibility as the camera is always on you. Hopefully he can change as he is still young. Max needs to spend more time with Ricciardo to see and act like being young, rich, and talented is a blessing and to enjoy life.

Conversely, Alonso and Russell showed incredible class in the way they handled the confusing situation.

I'm afraid Hamilton is what he's always been and will never change.

Speaking of Checo....poor Checo....even the media barely wants to acknowledge him. After quali it was Max this and Max that...driveshaft this and driveshaft that...

It took until basically after an interview with Horner after quali for the commentator to say "Oh yea...let's not forget Checo's pole". LOL :dummy:

You guys remind me of those who discuss WWE personalities. For every Hulk Hogan there's an Andre The Giant and Ric Flair.

Who?

Yous guise.

Just joking-ish in a very friendly way. Hamilton is struggling again this year.

:cheers::chuckle::thumbsup:

What has being Dutch to do with it ?

Monza was an unfortunate minor accident which happened whilst driving very slow rounding the corner and he saw that Hamilton was OK as he clearly stated in interviews.

Forgotten about Silverstone in the same season ?

Hard to imagine nowadays but Vettel as well was once the most hated driver in F1 (2013) He matured a lot since than.

Perhaps there is still hope for Verstappen, with age comes wisdom :chuckle:

Looking ahead…
FIA will clarify the touching/working definitions.

“The subsequent decision of the stewards to hear and grant the Right of Review by the Competitor was the result of new evidence regarding the definition of ‘working on the car’, for which there were conflicting precedents, and this has been exposed by this specific circumstance.

This topic will therefore be addressed at the next Sporting Advisory Committee taking place on Thursday, 23 March, and a clarification will be issued ahead of the 2023 FIA Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix.”

That clarification would apply to time penalties to be served in pit lane no matter what caused the penalty.


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I hope they will find the best solution for themselves and the sport :thumbsup: This case, we will get what we want: The race... on the track :clap:

All the racing is kind of pointless when you don't know the results until 3 days later. Takes the fun out of it.

A jack under the car and not touching is no different to wheel gun in hand not in use. This is why ruling was overturned but should have been enforced in first place IMO.

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I agree if the Jack didn’t touch the car - but the rear jack definitely touched the car. The logic behind overturning the 10-sec penalty was for a different reason. See the post shared Sunday.




I would agree if that was the case here. But the Stewards worked until 1 am Saudi TZ to issue final results at the track.


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Me too - the SAC had differing notes for this particular situation.

Hope they make it clear - and simple.


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This guy gets better and better with his impressions... :cheers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlSQUMHEchs

:chuckle: saw that when he posted it as well. Love that guys videos.

Love his videos :thumbsup:

Very creative - and not far from the truth methinks :chuckle:


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