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erics 15 August 2016 06:16 AM

I would say modern Pateks you need:

5711p
5131 j or r
5450p (yes oddball, but do a search).
5070p

All four can be found but each and everyone of them will be a challenging one to get.

Then get a 2499 and you'll be pretty much set.

You may want to own a cheaper watch than any of the above like a 5712a or 5711a. Both are super highly rated and you may want to have something a little less conspicuous at times..

I am also a car guy.. Tell me what cars you drive and i'll tell you what pp you need!

roma1280 15 August 2016 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by erics (Post 6929406)
I would say modern Pateks you need:

5711p
5131 j or r
5450p (yes oddball, but do a search).
5070p

All four can be found but each and everyone of them will be a challenging one to get.

Then get a 2499 and you'll be pretty much set.

You may want to own a cheaper watch than any of the above like a 5712a or 5711a. Both are super highly rated and you may want to have something a little less conspicuous at times..

I am also a car guy.. Tell me what cars you drive and i'll tell you what pp you need!


5711a yes agree
5131 - I'm on the fence - is it a bit of a gimmick? It's an honest question
5450 - I'm struggling with the salmon dial.
5070p - undoubtedly chick but the dial is a bit busy with all those rail road tracks

roma1280 15 August 2016 07:01 AM

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5450p robertmaron.com

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5070p lesguidesmontres.com

roma1280 15 August 2016 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by erics (Post 6929406)
Then get a 2499 and you'll be pretty much set.

Yes. You could be set with just a 2499 - spectacular.
Does anyone know which models were made, what years, how many and what each is worth?

I think it's 349 made between 1951 and 1986 and cost $300k to millions but is that right?


Premsoland.com

martinr 15 August 2016 07:22 AM

Look on Hodinkee, they did a history of Patek chronographs and which ones are rarest.

I thought you wanted a 5207?

roma1280 15 August 2016 07:35 AM

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Look on Hodinkee, they did a history of Patek chronographs and which ones are rarest.

I thought you wanted a 5207?

Yes I love 5207p and am obsessed with minute repeaters in general. I think the super high end is pretty soft as far as I can see so I'm sitting right.

Swissmade.hu

Plastique999 15 August 2016 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by erics (Post 6929406)
I would say modern Pateks you need:

5711p
5131 j or r
5450p (yes oddball, but do a search).
5070p

All four can be found but each and everyone of them will be a challenging one to get.

Then get a 2499 and you'll be pretty much set.

You may want to own a cheaper watch than any of the above like a 5712a or 5711a. Both are super highly rated and you may want to have something a little less conspicuous at times..

I am also a car guy.. Tell me what cars you drive and i'll tell you what pp you need!



I'll bite....
CGT
16M
LP640
I haven't had a PP yet, likely will start with 5712/1a but welcome suggestions.


Sent from my 16M

roma1280 15 August 2016 07:55 AM

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I'll bite....
CGT
16M
LP640
I haven't had a PP yet, likely will start with 5712/1a but welcome suggestions.


Sent from my 16M

Aaah music to my ears ... Young or old '58tdf or huayra?

roma1280 15 August 2016 07:56 AM

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brettpaul 15 August 2016 12:15 PM

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WOW - that is stunning! :worship:

Time to pack up and go home with that beauty :smokin:

cervantes 15 August 2016 02:36 PM

Congrats Mark. Excellent choice. A classic modern Patek and one that will hold it's value well. Just look at those proportions! Enjoy! (and if you dig the Genta style nothing beats a 5711 in my book).

erics 15 August 2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Plastique999 (Post 6929591)
I'll bite....
CGT
16M
LP640
I haven't had a PP yet, likely will start with 5712/1a but welcome suggestions.


Sent from my 16M

You clearly are in you modern classics and not shy of something a touch flamboyant.

I'd say something sporty and modern. Automatic wind clearly. Maybe precious metal..

5712r (the a will be too understated for you i think and 5711 too simple)
5960p blue face
5575
Maybe a 5524

erics 15 August 2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by roma1280 (Post 6929617)
Aaah music to my ears ... Young or old '58tdf or huayra?

This is utterly stunning. And to go along with it, you need something vintage and super refined with an 'engine' to match those 250cc x 12 cylinders designed by Lampredi.

So
2499
1518
1526
Or a 1463 chrono since you dislike too busy dials.

erics 15 August 2016 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by roma1280 (Post 6929619)
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With a Huyara you need something modern and more rugged.

But it can't be a yellow metal in my view.

Nautilus range would work.

First that springs to mind is 5711p. As in: only those who know, know..

Maybe a 5524 but it's not to everyone's taste (too big in my eyes).

Can't be a perpetual chrono.

The easy answer is 5712a and maybe (slightly controversial) a 5712g. Being the least loved and sold in the range, it's likely to be the most covetable in the future.

Plastique999 15 August 2016 07:54 PM

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Amazing!
Going to Monterey?


Sent from my 16M

roma1280 15 August 2016 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Plastique999 (Post 6930629)
Amazing!
Going to Monterey?


Sent from my 16M

unfortunately no.

roma1280 15 August 2016 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by erics (Post 6930522)
With a Huyara you need something modern and more rugged.

But it can't be a yellow metal in my view.

Nautilus range would work.

First that springs to mind is 5711p. As in: only those who know, know..

Maybe a 5524 but it's not to everyone's taste (too big in my eyes).

Can't be a perpetual chrono.

The easy answer is 5712a and maybe (slightly controversial) a 5712g. Being the least loved and sold in the range, it's likely to be the most covetable in the future.

Yes for Huayra one would need a 5711 blue/black dial

KarlS 16 August 2016 01:16 AM

This thread has moved from building a "great collection" to a "Grail collection" minute repeaters, 5131's and perpetual chrono's. Not sure what this thread is discussing any longer!

roma1280 16 August 2016 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS (Post 6931183)
This thread has moved from building a "great collection" to a "Grail collection" minute repeaters, 5131's and perpetual chrono's. Not sure what this thread is discussing any longer!

I think we're covering lots Pateks with different pros and cons and showing nice pictures. I think the thread is pretty good actually. If someone gave you $1m to spend on Pateks what would you buy?

KarlS 16 August 2016 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by roma1280 (Post 6931430)
I think we're covering lots Pateks with different pros and cons and showing nice pictures. I think the thread is pretty good actually. If someone gave you $1m to spend on Pateks what would you buy?

Seems like this thread has just taken another tangent!

unknown 16 August 2016 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by roma1280 (Post 6931430)
I think we're covering lots Pateks with different pros and cons and showing nice pictures. I think the thread is pretty good actually. If someone gave you $1m to spend on Pateks what would you buy?

Give me that million nand I'll tell you :chuckle:
But every 5070 will be the start

martinr 16 August 2016 03:03 AM

I'd rather have the money. Besides, where is the challenge to building a great collection with 1 million. Anybody could do it with their eyes closed.

KarlS 16 August 2016 03:08 AM

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I'd rather have the money. Besides, where is the challenge to building a great collection with 1 million. Anybody could do it with their eyes closed.

It's on the way....do you mind if they are Zim$?

martinr 16 August 2016 03:14 AM

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It's on the way....do you mind if they are Zim$?

$57.99 for 100 trillion. I'll take the whole Patek catalog.

masyv6 16 August 2016 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797 (Post 6694557)
This feels like an assignment.

I'm not in school any more....or am I? :thinking:

JorgeCCW 16 August 2016 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by roma1280 (Post 6929493)
5070p - undoubtedly chick but the dial is a bit busy with all those rail road tracks

rail road ? :banghead::banghead:
the pulsometer scale is probably the most iconic feature on the dial of a Patek Chrono :crying:
but I guess you don't have to like it, Cheers
:cheers:

roma1280 16 August 2016 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr (Post 6931467)
I'd rather have the money. Besides, where is the challenge to building a great collection with 1 million. Anybody could do it with their eyes closed.

Isn't dreaming about what you might do part of the fun? If I had the imaginary million I really don't know what I'd buy. 1 mega watch or 3 great ones, or 5? If you don't want to play, that's ok :cheers:


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