Wow wonderful point as early Rogier timepieces were INCREDIBLE! Still kicking myself i did not get one of the early RG with fancy crystal and applied Breguet numbers. So you're saying he's the reason RD went downhill? Major bummer, and hopefully PAM can backtrack asap before it's too late.

looks like panerai dont quite understand what their customers actually want, they just throw out a number of little variation versions of the same model again and again. hoping that at least one of the variations become a hot seller.

Great point. A quote from Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai, while at RD - “Of course you need to create spectacular platforms, spectacular products, limited editions, crazy materials“. And I think this is the mindset of Panerai today. He may not be the right person to lead a product group based on history and a unique character that has stood the test of time such as Panerai.

Completely agree!

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Personally agree with you. I get Panerai and Tron tho and love it. PAM and great lume... to the extreme. Some of the other 'experiments', am sorry to say maybe not so much.

I will say, PAM USA and Bob in Naples have ALWAYS been a pleasure. If it wasn't for their wonderful, enthusiastic, graciousness I'd have bailed from the brand. Thx PAM USA and Bob :thumbsup:

Yup exactly. It’s not about coming up with “new” materials every year and then forgetting their groundbreaking technological materials from the year before. Completely lost in terms of strategic direction in my opinion. It’s more about fad than creating iconic and timeless pieces at the moment. A true travesty.

To be fair to Panerai, i have warmed up to overpaying for a PAM timepiece provided yet get a 'free' ''experience" with one of their sponsored explorers. i feel SCUBA diving with one of their sponsored experts has value and does provide a great PR opportunity for Panerai that is aligned with the company's history. :thumbsup:

i prefer the 1020 over the 1111, 1020 is more balanced....

How disappointing - these releases are so meh.

I formally apologize for making fun of the Tron watch last year. It is looking pretty good right now.

I can't believe the 372 is gone.

hmmm ... aesthetically, will have to take a pass on the new gradient dial models. Prefer matte on Panerai vs. these or sun brushed/burst as well

some of the other releases look quite nice however

These ones are really nice...Attachment 1213570Attachment 1213571

Why are people saying the 372 and 422 are gone?? They are still both on the website.

A blue dial version of the 317 would be cool, so the 1135 looks good to me.
I'll have to see the 1135 in person, though, because I may prefer a matte blue dial instead of the shinier sunburst.

Like how the 317 with the matte black dial has an overall stealthy look. A nice contrast with many of my other watches.

https://i.imgur.com/bbeucTT.jpg?4

https://i.imgur.com/u3s9JAU.jpg?1

Well, for better or worse, Panerai at least keeps it interesting compared to Rolex....

Saw this on FB. Nice side by side.


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I don’t see those white Submersibles in their website?

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought it's boutique exclusive.....? :thinking:

It's Boutique only with 500 pieces/year.

It seems that we have to wait a bit...

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I’m hoping we will see some radiomirs? The website is still sparse.

I went to panerai because I’m a larger guy and I liked the 47mm options

Are any of the new watches 47mm?

Yes, there is something for all wrist sizes, from 38 to 47mm...

Ha! Although, I prefer the 1209 since it has the black dial and blue bezel. Plus the hacking matters (to me). And for the win- it is a limited edition of only 500!
My 2 cents...


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Like the 1074

That combo is "crispy" clean. :clap:

eSteel??

I like 'em. Just wish they didn't say "eSteel" on the dial.

Agreed! Despite the hefty price tag, it looks great.

eSteel 44mm Submersibles
 

I haven't purchased a Panerai since my 111 almost 15 years ago (which I still LOVE), but I'm really loving the new 44mm submersibles. Great size...and I don't get hung up on movement decoration or hacking. My 111 doesn't hack and my Rolex GMT Batman has a completely undecorated movement...which you can't see anyway.

I personally don't care about the eSteel recycling marketing gimmick (seriously, how much steel goes into a car compared to a watch? Seems like a drop in the ocean) but regardless...they look so darn good I'm probably going to buy one anyway. I've always wanted a submersible but 47mm felt big and 42mm felt just a tad small for a Panerai so these 44mm versions are exciting. I just can't decide between the blue, green and grey versions. Green is super trendy right now....and I love it...but I'll probably go with grey.