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dannyp 15 July 2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftieUSA (Post 11579955)
I spoke with store manager and they told me they have very strict policies on sizing watxhes especially Rolex. Rolex provides them with a special tools including a heating machine the loosen adhesive used to secure the screws this prevents any force needed when using screwdrivers to loosen screws in links. They also use a Rolex pad under the watch etc. Asked me if I have a copy of warranty card and he’ll reach out to Rolex and see what they say.


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A better policy would be only allowing the watchmaker to do them, since s/he wouldn’t need a policy to know how to use those tools.

Was this the manager at the purchase location or sizing location?

Merlin69 15 July 2021 05:56 AM

Incredible... Hope you will get news soon from the store manager.

EEpro 15 July 2021 05:56 AM

Dealer scratched my watch while removing a link
 
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Originally Posted by cerbom (Post 11579976)
That s kinda funny. So they have all this stuff and they still damaged the watch. Now they want to see what Rolex says about their carelessness. I don t have much confidence here but good luck.


Omega boutique gave me the same speech. "We use only proper Swiss Bergeon tools" and I interrupted "you blew the spring bars through the lugs so how does that matter?"

I let my guard down just once more and it happened again. I had already vowed to never allow anyone to size my watches. Shame on me. This was a bracelet swap.

samuel019 15 July 2021 06:05 AM

OMG Brother that is a terrible job.

I never let the A D size my watches BUT in this day and age with sticker removing and sizing etc etc etc I get it.

I tell my A D when I get the opportunity, not often lol, I will size it when I get home.

Just spend a $100 bucks or so and get the proper screwdriver and some springbar pliers. Not that you need necessarily the springbar pliers but watches with the easy link it comes in handy. Just some basic overall tools is my point. Once you get over the nerve of doing it once you will do 1000 times. Nothing to it after the first time.


I'm sure with the right tools even with one hand covering one eye standing on one leg you can do a better job then that hack job.

911991 15 July 2021 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Driver8 (Post 11579975)
:rofl: Yes it looks like they adhered to those “strict policies” VERY well. :dummy:

I agree, what he should say is I will swap the bracelet out from another watch and sorry for the mishap... Then he can wait on RSC.

He is probably hoping that you will give up and go away...

911991 15 July 2021 06:18 AM

you should also get their admitting to fault and damage to your watch in writing.

Annan 15 July 2021 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftieUSA (Post 11579955)
I spoke with store manager and they told me they have very strict policies on sizing watxhes especially Rolex. Rolex provides them with a special tools including a heating machine the loosen adhesive used to secure the screws this prevents any force needed when using screwdrivers to loosen screws in links. They also use a Rolex pad under the watch etc. Asked me if I have a copy of warranty card and he’ll reach out to Rolex and see what they say.


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Well......having the special tools is only half. The other half is knowing how to correctly use the special tools.

Not sure why they need your warranty card and what that has to do with anything. I'm also not sure why they have to contact Rolex to see what they have to say.

whiskyrolex 15 July 2021 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyp (Post 11579929)
Are you sure that’s the case? First of all, even though a different location is the same merchant from their perspective, no? At the very least a potential chargeback for cost of new bracelet might be possible. But even if it’s viewed as third party, I’m not sure that matters. I’ll give you an example:

A decade ago I had someone smash a window in my car when parking on a San Francisco street. Paid for repair on Amex. A week later, another break-in... same window! Called Amex, told them that I’d used my card to pay for replacement window for my car a week earlier and now the window was shattered. Speculated it was done by a thief but couldn’t say as it was overnight. The rep was skeptical but ultimately covered without incident.

Fom the Amex terms:

NOT COVERED
D. damage to, losing or theft while property is under the temporary care and control of a third party, including common carrier.

The key difference is you did not hand your car over willingly to the vandals.

I do agree with you in that that Amex is typically very good about these things and it is the reason I put all of my expensive purchases on one of their cards with premium purchase protection.

HiBoost 15 July 2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EEpro (Post 11579497)
Wow. I do my own stunts for this reason.

That's very unprofessional.

No doubt, need to hang on to this link for the next time I see someone getting berated for sizing their own bracelet. I mean honestly, has any owner ever scratched up their watch worse than this??

Such a shame OP. And how disgusting of a market this has become that, as another user commented above, you'd have to think twice about complaining about such a thing for fear of shooting yourself in the future foot trying to get another watch.

Driver8 15 July 2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Annan (Post 11580096)
Well......having the special tools is only half. The other half is knowing how to correctly use the special tools.

Not sure why they need your warranty card and what that has to do with anything. I'm also not sure why they have to contact Rolex to see what they have to say.

Exactly. What is there to discuss with Rolex? :thinking: Surely it's a simple case of a cack-handed and/or untrained SA showing their complete incompetence with a screwdriver. The AD just needs to step up, take responsibility and sort it out, either by getting RSC to fix it, or replacing the damage parts.... all free of charge.

I've had something similar on two occasions myself. The first time, an AD scratched the underside of the lugs on my brand new Breitling Navitimer as I wanted a croco strap instead of calf leather. I had them send it to Breitling for a re-polish of the lugs (free of charge). The second time, IWC scratched the bezel on my brand new Big Pilot while it was in for a regulation. I sent it straight back, and they re-polished it (again free of charge), called me from Switzerland to apologise in person, AND sent me an IWC branded Swiss Kubik watch-winder.

In both cases (and especially in the case of IWC) the CS was top notch, so let's hope the OP's AD steps up and does the right thing. :thumbsup:

cerbom 15 July 2021 07:02 AM

To the OP er, Not your fault at all but try not to let this take the joy out of life, it s not right, but put in lifes perspective this is minor. I am sympathetic as I am the same way with cars. Then when you give something over for repair and you say, "this item is unscratched and I d like it back the same way" you are a PITA, LOL.

whiskyrolex 15 July 2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cerbom (Post 11579976)
That s kinda funny. So they have all this stuff and they still damaged the watch. Now they want to see what Rolex says about their carelessness. I don t have much confidence here but good luck.

I can guess what they will say:

Rolex guarantee excludes normal wear-and-tear (notably the wear-and-tear of non-metal bracelets and straps), loss, theft, or damage due to misuse.

Frank McKay 15 July 2021 07:09 AM

How can they possibly be that careless handling the watch? who ever is responsible should not be handling watches any longer.

Gab27 15 July 2021 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cerbom (Post 11579976)
That s kinda funny. So they have all this stuff and they still damaged the watch. Now they want to see what Rolex says about their carelessness. I don t have much confidence here but good luck.

That's how I interpret that response. Very boilerplate language that intentionally avoids accepting any responsibility or committing to any form of solution.

OP, you might want to see how much Rolliworks or LAWW would charge to fix this...

M45 15 July 2021 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftieUSA (Post 11579955)
I spoke with store manager and they told me they have very strict policies on sizing watxhes especially Rolex. Rolex provides them with a special tools including a heating machine the loosen adhesive used to secure the screws this prevents any force needed when using screwdrivers to loosen screws in links. They also use a Rolex pad under the watch etc. Asked me if I have a copy of warranty card and he’ll reach out to Rolex and see what they say.


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“We only use genuine Porsche parts and Porsche trained technicians.”

*drops car off of lift*

dannyp 15 July 2021 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by whiskyrolex (Post 11580111)
Fom the Amex terms:

NOT COVERED
D. damage to, losing or theft while property is under the temporary care and control of a third party, including common carrier.

The key difference is you did not hand your car over willingly to the vandals.

I do agree with you in that that Amex is typically very good about these things and it is the reason I put all of my expensive purchases on one of their cards with premium purchase protection.

Ah, makes sense. Well, if Amex (or whatever card OP charged to) views LBG as a single "merchant" then a chargeback for the MSRP of a new bracelet (scratched link looks permanent) is another option.

Casotakar 15 July 2021 10:12 AM

Damn, that would irritate anyone, sorry to see. I agree, scratches should be put there on your own accord, not a dealer doing a simple fix. The response from the manager sounds like they are now back peddling a bit.

As others said, bergeon 7825 + horofix screw driver + thin yellow scotch tape + your labor = hassle free and fun watch tinkering.


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Oyster_Jubilee 15 July 2021 11:32 AM

Sorry to hear about this. It is a bad look for Rolex let alone the dealer. Such a shame on so many levels.

Joearch 15 July 2021 11:53 AM

Of course they did. Hate to have them touch my watch unless they have a watch maker.

hambone1983 15 July 2021 12:13 PM

I would have been more angered by this hack trying to get away with gouging your bracelet and then making unprofessional comments. I think I would have said since you have to expect nincompoops to vandalize your property why don't you tell me which car outside is yours. And then I would've ratted her out to her boss.

hambone1983 15 July 2021 12:15 PM

was this woman a watchmaker or just jewelry peddler?

Bizcut1 15 July 2021 12:26 PM

If they don't come through only one thing to do.

Shame them on social media. Facebook. Instagram. Yelp. Google (especially).

F-'em - that woman's comment was horrible.

Ben

Bozack90 15 July 2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whiskyrolex (Post 11579873)
Any AD worth their salt should have a watchmaker handling these things. I can tell you for sure no sales rep would be sizing any watch at my local AD.

I think it depends on the dealer, of all the ones I have been to none have had an on site watchmaker

for repair work they sent everything out

Bracelet sizing is all handled by the sales associates or managers

The one time I had a watch sized and it was scratched they had a guy in the back who was dedicated to performing bracelet resizing and intaking watches they shipped off for service but that was basically another retail associate

I am hoping with the new boutique in the city open they have some actual on site watchmakers

ap1 15 July 2021 01:21 PM

That is horrible and I’d blow a gasket

BNA/LION 15 July 2021 01:32 PM

That's Not Right! I hope they take responsibility and repair it at the very least.

Galaga167 15 July 2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dannyp (Post 11579545)
Oh. In that case, I'd be asking for a whole new bracelet.


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Ask for a new bracelet not just a new clasp.

dukie748 15 July 2021 01:55 PM

Totally unacceptable on a $100 watch, let alone a high value timepiece.

eddiemonster 15 July 2021 03:06 PM

I'm sorry to add to your frustration, but OMG that is terrible! He/she even mangled the screw heads! I have sized numerous late model Rolexes and whatever Loc-Tite that might be used is not that difficult to break with a precision screwdriver. I just recently sized my own solid 18K piece (a first for me) and while I was nervous as it's a softer than SS, I left zero blemishes. You just need a quality screwdriver and for good measure, scotch tape.

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Andad 15 July 2021 03:14 PM

Is that screw a bit second hand already?:chuckle:

Rashid.bk 15 July 2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver8 (Post 11579528)
Wow, that's just terrible. And what an appalling response from the woman as well! :banghead:

This is exactly why I invested long ago in a set of Horofix screwdrivers, some electrical tape for protection from slips, and a bottle of Loctite 222.

Yeap, and I would also get a case and bracelet holder. Makes sizing and changes a breeze.


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