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Cwillis0001 15 July 2021 03:35 PM

Lemme tell you something. If that happened to me, I'd find the miscreant in the mall parking lot, probably the nearest exit to Sbarro, and proceed to key his Rav4 right in front of his face. I mean, we're talking about a scratch on a link on a watch bracelet here. Shoot, Rolex bracelet I meant. That's even worse!

Cwillis0001 15 July 2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by garyk (Post 11579678)
Show this photo of my “scratch free” 9 year old Porsche to this AD…

I haven’t been lucky, I’m careful to not let morons work on it. I totally think they owe you whatever you are willing to accept to make this right. Unbelievable!!!

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Yes, do that. A third hand picture of some stranger's scratch free 9 year old Porsche will make this person see the light. Let me know if you think that pictures of the two unscratched quarter panels on my F-150 will help you out. I'll send them ASAP.

Gamora 15 July 2021 03:45 PM

I got a BLNR few days back from an AD. The watchmaker had apparently left early for the day. The sales associate removed the stickers and resized the bracelet. When I got home, I noticed quite a few hairline scratches on the bracelet and some deep scratches on the side where the screw heads are located. 3 screw heads were badly mangled. It pissed me no end but I thought it was no use calling the manager or SA as they would at most offer polish. It took the SA few years to allocate me the BLNR so if I complained, I would be thought of as ungrateful. That’s my assumption based on today’s environment. I also wanted the jubilee bracelet instead of the oyster which was on the BLNR. I reached out a grey dealer and got it traded for an unworn jubilee BLNR. I have learned a valuable lesson and will never let a SA resize the bracelet again. Either wait for the in-house watchmaker or if there isn’t one, insist on doing the resizing yourself at home or through a professional watchmaker.

zaphod777 15 July 2021 04:29 PM

What is the proper size screwdriver required to size the jubilee bracelet on a DJ36 126234? From my searching it seems I need a 1.3mm driver?

t60 15 July 2021 04:36 PM

Name and shame.

philhendrix 15 July 2021 05:13 PM

So what's the best way to deal with this then? Obviously a bad polish can ruin the watch even more. Making a scene might reduce our chances on the sought after pieces...So whats left?

alika 15 July 2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dannyp (Post 11579545)
Oh. In that case, I'd be asking for a whole new bracelet.


X2 this is unacceptable…


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wb55 15 July 2021 08:20 PM

Did you buy your watch from this AD? Shocking treatment.

Hollie_Rollie 15 July 2021 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Casotakar (Post 11580452)

As others said, bergeon 7825 + horofix screw driver + thin yellow scotch tape + your labor = hassle free and fun watch tinkering.


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Brny11 15 July 2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Casotakar (Post 11580452)
Damn, that would irritate anyone, sorry to see. I agree, scratches should be put there on your own accord, not a dealer doing a simple fix. The response from the manager sounds like they are now back peddling a bit.

As others said, bergeon 7825 + horofix screw driver + thin yellow scotch tape + your labor = hassle free and fun watch tinkering.


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Also a butane lighter as needed!

kwingy 15 July 2021 10:07 PM

Definitely don't drop this matter - longer it goes on, longer they are gonna wash their hands of it or deny. Call back for an update. Honestly they have butchered your watch beyond belief.

As others have said, get the right tools and change the link yourself next time. It's easy to do and you can take your time which clearly they did not.

london_v 15 July 2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cwillis0001 (Post 11580873)
Yes, do that. A third hand picture of some stranger's scratch free 9 year old Porsche will make this person see the light. Let me know if you think that pictures of the two unscratched quarter panels on my F-150 will help you out. I'll send them ASAP.

Lol

Cheng 16 July 2021 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwillis0001 (Post 11580867)
Lemme tell you something. If that happened to me, I'd find the miscreant in the mall parking lot, probably the nearest exit to Sbarro, and proceed to key his Rav4 right in front of his face. I mean, we're talking about a scratch on a link on a watch bracelet here. Shoot, Rolex bracelet I meant. That's even worse!

:chuckle:

t60 16 July 2021 01:56 AM

Looks like the AD owes OP a new clasp and screw.

SeaAndSky 16 July 2021 02:03 AM

I'm firmly in the scratch them up and enjoy them camp but that only applies to me doing the scratching while wearing. That would irritate me. How do watch professionals even let things like that happen? I'd never let that AD touch one one my watches again.

Bizcut1 16 July 2021 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk (Post 11579678)
Show this photo of my “scratch free” 9 year old Porsche to this AD…

I haven’t been lucky, I’m careful to not let morons work on it. I totally think they owe you whatever you are willing to accept to make this right. Unbelievable!!!

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Weak flex.

garyk 16 July 2021 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizcut1 (Post 11581711)
Sad, weak flex. Not even relevant.

Extremely relevant, Here's the remark I made an analogy about using my scratch free 9 year old car:

"once the lady buffed the one scratch out on the clasp she made a snarky comment and said it’s like a new car eventually you’ll get a scratch on it."


Having fun on TRF sometimes creates a subject where someone sadly has to make a cutting remark. I just recently heard about flex, you sir are completely wrong........

garyk 16 July 2021 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwillis0001 (Post 11580873)
Yes, do that. A third hand picture of some stranger's scratch free 9 year old Porsche will make this person see the light. Let me know if you think that pictures of the two unscratched quarter panels on my F-150 will help you out. I'll send them ASAP.

Again, the lady made a snarky remark using a car analogy. I had recently been to a national car show with this car which we drove there. I got favorable comments as "there's not a mark on my 9 year old car". Just thought it was relevant when I read this idiot lady's stupid comment. Obviously it struck a nerve with some sensibilities here??!! Lighten up maybe...Geez..........

"once the lady buffed the one scratch out on the clasp she made a snarky comment and said it’s like a new car eventually you’ll get a scratch on it."

LSA916 16 July 2021 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk (Post 11581929)
Again, the lady made a snarky remark using a car analogy. I had recently been to a national car show with this car which we drove there. I got favorable comments as "there's not a mark on my 9 year old car". Just thought it was relevant when I read this idiot lady's stupid comment. Obviously it struck a nerve with some sensibilities here??!! Lighten up maybe...Geez..........

"once the lady buffed the one scratch out on the clasp she made a snarky comment and said it’s like a new car eventually you’ll get a scratch on it."

Yep; the difference is that the AD caused the scratch, not OP. If I damage my own car on my own, it's clearly my own fault. But following the same analogy, if I take my car in to the dealer for maintenance and they damage it through their own negligence, they should and normally will offer a fix to original quality. I'm pretty sure "it was going to get scratched eventually" is not a valid excuse.

garyk 16 July 2021 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LSA916 (Post 11581948)
Yep; the difference is that the AD caused the scratch, not OP. If I damage my own car on my own, it's clearly my own fault. But following the same analogy, if I take my car in to the dealer for maintenance and they damage it through their own negligence, they should and normally will offer a fix to original quality. I'm pretty sure "it was going to get scratched eventually" is not a valid excuse.

That's the way it hit me too. Appalling that this happened to the OP and it hit me as the lady's comment about cars as an excuse was completely off base...I choose who works on my cars carefully but after these guys came after me, I give up.

I wish the moderators would remove my photo please...

HiBoost 16 July 2021 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk (Post 11581748)
Extremely relevant, Here's the remark I made an analogy about using my scratch free 9 year old car:

"once the lady buffed the one scratch out on the clasp she made a snarky comment and said it’s like a new car eventually you’ll get a scratch on it."


Having fun on TRF sometimes creates a subject where someone sadly has to make a cutting remark. I just recently heard about flex, you sir are completely wrong........

I took your comment as you intended. Not everyone is a jaded internet troll :) I do not think you intended us to be in awe of your vehicle. But rather, to point out that many of us who "like nice things" in general do actually take care of our stuff. And whether it's a watch or a car or a piece of furniture we aren't real keen to just have it beat to hell for no good reason, especially by somebody else. If the dealer scratches my wife's Mazda (how's that for a big boy flex?!) you think I'm going to accept "it's a car, these things happen"? On what planet would that fly?

garyk 16 July 2021 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HiBoost (Post 11581961)
I took your comment as you intended. Not everyone is a jaded internet troll :) I do not think you intended us to be in awe of your vehicle. But rather, to point out that many of us who "like nice things" in general do actually take care of our stuff. And whether it's a watch or a car or a piece of furniture we aren't real keen to just have it beat to hell for no good reason, especially by somebody else. If the dealer scratches my wife's Mazda (how's that for a big boy flex?!) you think I'm going to accept "it's a car, these things happen"? On what planet would that fly?

Thank you very much!!! I only wish I had used a photo of my also scratch free 8 year old 63,000 mile Toyota FJ lol..

I totally get what you're saying about your wife's Mazda. What the flex police and people who place weird values on things on TRF do not realize that some people, myself included really like things for the mechanical value or material quality and the dollars do not make one worth more than another IMO. I know I'm not saying this well but I like my 45 year old Porsche Design watch just as much (maybe more) as my YG Daytona.

Thank you again sir!!!!

M45 16 July 2021 06:38 AM

I can post pictures of my rusty, scratched, and dented Toyota 4Runner.

garyk 16 July 2021 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by M45 (Post 11582235)
I can post pictures of my rusty, scratched, and dented Toyota 4Runner.

nice

ROlesorusLEX 16 July 2021 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk (Post 11581970)
Thank you very much!!! I only wish I had used a photo of my also scratch free 8 year old 63,000 mile Toyota FJ lol..

I totally get what you're saying about your wife's Mazda. What the flex police and people who place weird values on things on TRF do not realize that some people, myself included really like things for the mechanical value or material quality and the dollars do not make one worth more than another IMO. I know I'm not saying this well but I like my 45 year old Porsche Design watch just as much (maybe more) as my YG Daytona.

Thank you again sir!!!!

Incidentally, in today's market, that FJ might be worth more than the Porsche. Have you seen the asks on those things with 6 digit mileage? Crazy.

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stylinleems 16 July 2021 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by zaphod777 (Post 11580914)
What is the proper size screwdriver required to size the jubilee bracelet on a DJ36 126234? From my searching it seems I need a 1.3mm driver?

Yes, I believe it is the 1.3mm driver.

vh2k 16 July 2021 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk (Post 11581970)
What the flex police and people who place weird values on things on TRF do not realize that some people, myself included really like things for the mechanical value or material quality and the dollars do not make one worth more than another IMO. I know I'm not saying this well but I like my 45 year old Porsche Design watch just as much (maybe more) as my YG Daytona.

Wait a minute….

You created a thread to boast about which Rolex to take with you to a Porsche-themed vacation (and showed watch rolls with some of your nice watches). Then, you dropped a photo of a Porsche (presumably yours) into another UNRELATED thread. And then you mention your YG Daytona in a follow up post.

So, someone mentions flexing and YOU claim to be the unwitting victim of the flex police???

Dude, pul-eeeze. It’s 100% OK to brag about this stuff. We are on a Rolex forum so showing off comes with the territory. Don’t cry foul.

Bizcut1 16 July 2021 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk (Post 11581748)
Extremely relevant, Here's the remark I made an analogy about using my scratch free 9 year old car:

"once the lady buffed the one scratch out on the clasp she made a snarky comment and said it’s like a new car eventually you’ll get a scratch on it."


Having fun on TRF sometimes creates a subject where someone sadly has to make a cutting remark. I just recently heard about flex, you sir are completely wrong........

You're right - that was rude. Apologies.

Ben

WatchtraderNY 16 July 2021 07:50 AM

that hurts

Geckobros 16 July 2021 08:17 AM

Yowch… hopefully you can get it resolved quickly. Good luck.

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