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jph4387 9 October 2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Kram (Post 8992835)
I can find tons of special reserve and antique near me, but the 12 is difficult to find unless you want to pay stupid markups. Can I ask what you pay for the 12?



I pay retail. I think we could find a deal if you can help me source the other 2.



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Mr Kram 9 October 2018 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jph4387 (Post 8992872)
I pay retail. I think we could find a deal if you can help me source the other 2.



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will PM you.

Malak 9 October 2018 09:59 PM

Jim Murray’s Whisky Bible 2019


http://blog.thewhiskyexchange.com/20...9-the-winners/

RLX_NY 10 October 2018 12:59 AM

What are other fellow members currently enjoying or collecting?

ashbaug2 10 October 2018 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RLX_NY (Post 8994287)
What are other fellow members currently enjoying or collecting?

I enjoyed a couple Bourbons from my collection this weekend: Bib & Tucker 6 Year small batch and the Woodford Reserve Sherry Cask-finished.

I just picked up a bottle of Whistle Pig Old World Cask Finish rye that I'm looking forward to breaking out this weekend. Whistle Pig 10 Year Straight Rye is my typical go-to rye whiskey.

ashbaug2 10 October 2018 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BNA/LION (Post 8973236)

I tried this Nikka Coffee Grain whiskey with some friends two weekends ago, and it was delicious. Obviously, it's a bit out in left field, but I like that the Japanese are willing to try these things that other distillers probably frown upon. It was enjoyable, to me.

ashbaug2 10 October 2018 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by therolexguy (Post 8975538)

Looks similar to my cabinet... Blantons is a great bourbon, I've got a new bottle sitting, waiting to be opened, and I have that Bulleit Barrel Strength, as well. That'll burn the hair off your tongue, for sure. Old Forester Prohibition-style whiskey is one of my favorites, as well, maybe I need to try some of the rest of their selections.

Mr Kram 10 October 2018 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RLX_NY (Post 8994287)
What are other fellow members currently enjoying or collecting?

LOL. did you go through the thread?

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Originally Posted by ashbaug2 (Post 8994380)
I enjoyed a couple Bourbons from my collection this weekend: Bib & Tucker 6 Year small batch and the Woodford Reserve Sherry Cask-finished.

I just picked up a bottle of Whistle Pig Old World Cask Finish rye that I'm looking forward to breaking out this weekend. Whistle Pig 10 Year Straight Rye is my typical go-to rye whiskey.

have you had the old world at all? they are finished in wine/port barrels. very different that regular whistle pig. i happen to like it. if you do like it, you may want to check out basil hayden dark rye. it's fortified with a touch of CA port. dangerously smooth and tasty.

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Originally Posted by ashbaug2 (Post 8994414)
Looks similar to my cabinet... Blantons is a great bourbon, I've got a new bottle sitting, waiting to be opened, and I have that Bulleit Barrel Strength, as well. That'll burn the hair off your tongue, for sure. Old Forester Prohibition-style whiskey is one of my favorites, as well, maybe I need to try some of the rest of their selections.

don't waste your money on the other old forester. the 1920 is by far the best (IMO) and it's only marginally more expensive than their other offerings. of course, if you're at a bar that only offers the other stuff, have a taste. :cheers:

ashbaug2 10 October 2018 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Kram (Post 8994434)
have you had the old world at all? they are finished in wine/port barrels. very different that regular whistle pig. i happen to like it. if you do like it, you may want to check out basil hayden dark rye. it's fortified with a touch of CA port. dangerously smooth and tasty.



don't waste your money on the other old forester. the 1920 is by far the best (IMO) and it's only marginally more expensive than their other offerings. of course, if you're at a bar that only offers the other stuff, have a taste. :cheers:

I've had the Basil Hayden Dark Rye and loved it. Still have half a bottle sitting in my cabinet. BH Bourbon is my daily drinker, so I had to try that one when I saw it.

Mr Kram 10 October 2018 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ashbaug2 (Post 8994630)
I've had the Basil Hayden Dark Rye and loved it. Still have half a bottle sitting in my cabinet. BH Bourbon is my daily drinker, so I had to try that one when I saw it.

if that's the case, you will like the old world. also, have you tried the basil hayden two by two. saw it the other day, but didn't grab a bottle.

RLX_NY 10 October 2018 03:46 AM

Kram, sorry still new here so can't quote directly due to post count but yes I did. I went thru the entire thread and happy to discover other people with like interests as me :cheers:

I like discussing whiskey in general so I asked that question to get some conversation going plus also potentially discover new whiskey I may not know of that other members have tried or suggest such as the Weller 12 you and the other member mentioned. It looked interesting so after doing some reading last night now I'm on the hunt for a bottle or two, only to find NYC stores ridiculous markups of 250-500 per bottle :banghead:

Have tried many more not currently on the list but my current cabinet consists of the following

Glenfiddich 21yrs
Glenfiddich Experimental Batch #01
Glenfiddich Experimental Batch #02
Glenfiddich Experimental Batch #03
Glenfiddich Experimental Batch #04
Syndicate 58/6
Lagavulin 16yrs
Laphroaig 10yrs
Bowmore 15yrs Darkest
Ardbeg 10yrs
Hudson Baby Bourbon Whiskey
Monkey Shoulder
Macallan 12yrs Double Cask

:cheers:

RLX_NY 10 October 2018 03:49 AM

ashbaug2, how did you like the Woodford Reserve Sherry Cask? I always tell myself I'm going to pick up a bottle then every time I go to the store I end up getting side tracked and buying something else :rofl:

Rolex addict 10 October 2018 04:10 AM

It's getting close to Pappy time. I'm curious how many bottles my "guy" will hold for me. Picked up some Blantons the other day. Looking forward to the Jack Daniels Heritage edition.

RLX_NY 10 October 2018 04:40 AM

Rolex addict, you're a lucky man that's a great choice enjoy :cheers:

I've been on the hunt for a pappy for a longggg time but unless you know a "guy" to hook you up it's almost impossible to get or pay a ridiculous mark up.

Two months ago I stumbled upon a liquor store in the city who actually had one in stock so imagine my excitement until I looked at the price tag 4,999 :dummy: I laughed and walked out.

Rolex addict 10 October 2018 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RLX_NY (Post 8994835)
Rolex addict, you're a lucky man that's a great choice enjoy :cheers:

I've been on the hunt for a pappy for a longggg time but unless you know a "guy" to hook you up it's almost impossible to get or pay a ridiculous mark up.

Two months ago I stumbled upon a liquor store in the city who actually had one in stock so imagine my excitement until I looked at the price tag 4,999 :dummy: I laughed and walked out.

Not really luck. I buy all my booze through him AND bought a barrel of Jack Daniels. He is taking care of customers that spend big money. The exact same thing is happing in the watch world. If it makes you feel better, PVW really isn't that great. 15 and 23 are ok, but 10 and 12 just aren't good. Of course, every one has their own preference. I don't care for Blantons either. If you have time, check out my thread on the barrel. It's somewhere in the open forum section.

edit: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ght+the+barrel

linesiders 10 October 2018 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolex addict (Post 8994879)
Not really luck. I buy all my booze through him AND bought a barrel of Jack Daniels. He is taking care of customers that spend big money. The exact same thing is happing in the watch world. If it makes you feel better, PVW really isn't that great. 15 and 23 are ok, but 10 and 12 just aren't good. Of course, every one has their own preference. I don't care for Blantons either. If you have time, check out my thread on the barrel. It's somewhere in the open forum section.


Interesting. I enjoy Blantons. Have not had Pappy and I'd much rather chase vintage watches and Super NE IPAs then PVW :cheers:

Mr Kram 10 October 2018 06:24 AM

Like all fine alcohol and wine, there are diminishing returns after the price hits a certain point. For me personally, that price is about $400 or so and once I know what the true retail price of a bottle is, I just don’t like paying stupid markups. I’ve got a lead on a 2 bottle PVW allocation, but it will depend on the year and asking price.

Mr Kram 10 October 2018 06:37 AM

I want to qualify my post above regarding old forester. I was referring to the regular stuff and not the 12 year they just released.

RLX_NY 10 October 2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolex addict (Post 8994879)
Not really luck. I buy all my booze through him AND bought a barrel of Jack Daniels. He is taking care of customers that spend big money. The exact same thing is happing in the watch world. If it makes you feel better, PVW really isn't that great. 15 and 23 are ok, but 10 and 12 just aren't good. Of course, every one has their own preference. I don't care for Blantons either. If you have time, check out my thread on the barrel. It's somewhere in the open forum section.

edit: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ght+the+barrel

Hey Chad,

Just finished reading thru the whole JD thread and very cool thread :cheers:. Sounds like you had a great experience and something I would do with my friends as well at some point in time.

Yeah I heard that about pappy as well from other people although I personally never tried it but for me I sorta have two collections. One with different kinds of whiskeys I keep in rotation to drink and the other of cool, interesting, rare bottles I just collect (pappy fits in the later, to have in my collection as a collector and not really drink :chuckle:) maybe one day i'll get my hands on one.

BTW question for you if you have any experience with it? I was reading online on whiskey blogs how they were calling Weller 12 a "poor mans pappy" in terms of price lol but saying it's the closest things to tasting like pappy but I take all things on the internet with a grain of salt... any words of wisdom?

RLX_NY 10 October 2018 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Kram (Post 8995136)
Like all fine alcohol and wine, there are diminishing returns after the price hits a certain point. For me personally, that price is about $400 or so and once I know what the true retail price of a bottle is, I just don’t like paying stupid markups. I’ve got a lead on a 2 bottle PVW allocation, but it will depend on the year and asking price.

Totally agree with you and feel the same. Mines also about 400/500 and I don't mind overpaying for something rare and hard to get over retail price but within reason and not crazy ridiculous markups.

BTW I responded to your other post but don't see my reply. Yes I read thru the whole thread, I just like discussing whiskey in general and discovering/learning about new whiskeys I might not know about hence my question :cheers:

Mr Kram 10 October 2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RLX_NY (Post 8995246)
Totally agree with you and feel the same. Mines also about 400/500 and I don't mind overpaying for something rare and hard to get over retail price but within reason and not crazy ridiculous markups.



BTW I responded to your other post but don't see my reply. Yes I read thru the whole thread, I just like discussing whiskey in general and discovering/learning about new whiskeys I might not know about hence my question :cheers:



So sorry, didn’t mean to come off as a turd. There’s just a lot of content here. If you can find weller close to retail, stock up. I notice that when I travel to my Houston home, the special reserve is abundant and cheap. Antique and the 12 are a little harder to source There is also a new people’s choice out, but I’ve yet to find a bottle.

Rolex addict 10 October 2018 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RLX_NY (Post 8995219)
Hey Chad,

Just finished reading thru the whole JD thread and very cool thread :cheers:. Sounds like you had a great experience and something I would do with my friends as well at some point in time.

Yeah I heard that about pappy as well from other people although I personally never tried it but for me I sorta have two collections. One with different kinds of whiskeys I keep in rotation to drink and the other of cool, interesting, rare bottles I just collect (pappy fits in the later, to have in my collection as a collector and not really drink :chuckle:) maybe one day i'll get my hands on one.

BTW question for you if you have any experience with it? I was reading online on whiskey blogs how they were calling Weller 12 a "poor mans pappy" in terms of price lol but saying it's the closest things to tasting like pappy but I take all things on the internet with a grain of salt... any words of wisdom?

It's made at the same distillery (Buffalo Trace) with an almost identical grain bill, aged in the same type of barrel and geography. Even though it has all of this, whiskey and bourbon do age differently and can have significantly different flavor profiles. We learned this when tasting JD to pick our barrel. An analogy would be setting Pappy on a pedestal as a fine single barrel bourbon. You also have very good single barrel JD. Barrels that don't "make the cut" to single barrel status get blended into JD black label. That would be where Wellers fits it. It's Pappy, but it's not.

ashbaug2 10 October 2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RLX_NY (Post 8994712)
ashbaug2, how did you like the Woodford Reserve Sherry Cask? I always tell myself I'm going to pick up a bottle then every time I go to the store I end up getting side tracked and buying something else :rofl:

It's smooth, slightly sweet (as expected), and hits hard. I like Woodford, in general, but this is another level. Worth every penny. Not sure how you enjoy your whiskey, but it is definitely better neat, as I have found that any ice/water dillutes the flavor, but then again my palate isn't as refined as others'...

I don't see the Sherry Cask finished around anymore, I think there's a new Brandy Cask finished that's available, but I haven't picked that one up. :cheers:

cm10005 10 October 2018 02:43 PM

So what you think guys, the unopened 2013 20yr old Pappy in my safe should I open and drink or sell it?? I’ve been waiting for that real special occasion but just seems like it hasn’t come.

imperio 10 October 2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cm10005 (Post 8996293)
So what you think guys, the unopened 2013 20yr old Pappy in my safe should I open and drink or sell it?? I’ve been waiting for that real special occasion but just seems like it hasn’t come.



Friday's just round the corner :chuckle:

RLX_NY 11 October 2018 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Kram (Post 8995306)
So sorry, didn’t mean to come off as a turd. There’s just a lot of content here. If you can find weller close to retail, stock up. I notice that when I travel to my Houston home, the special reserve is abundant and cheap. Antique and the 12 are a little harder to source There is also a new people’s choice out, but I’ve yet to find a bottle.

No worries no offense taken :cheers: that’s part of the problem it’s not to readily available in NY or rather I can find it but their all asking ridiculous markups. Ohh well we’ll see what happens maybe one day lol

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Originally Posted by Rolex addict (Post 8995316)
It's made at the same distillery (Buffalo Trace) with an almost identical grain bill, aged in the same type of barrel and geography. Even though it has all of this, whiskey and bourbon do age differently and can have significantly different flavor profiles. We learned this when tasting JD to pick our barrel. An analogy would be setting Pappy on a pedestal as a fine single barrel bourbon. You also have very good single barrel JD. Barrels that don't "make the cut" to single barrel status get blended into JD black label. That would be where Wellers fits it. It's Pappy, but it's not.

Hey Chad,

Totally understand what you’re saying and the analogy. I do want to pick up a bottle one day just to try it for what it is and not compare it to pappy but even weller 12 in my area is marked up like crazy lol. Any other recommendations you have I’d love to hear it and discuss. I got your message too just a little hard to respond on the phone since I’m traveling for work and can’t get on a computer but will definitely hit you up :cheers:

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Originally Posted by ashbaug2 (Post 8995491)
It's smooth, slightly sweet (as expected), and hits hard. I like Woodford, in general, but this is another level. Worth every penny. Not sure how you enjoy your whiskey, but it is definitely better neat, as I have found that any ice/water dillutes the flavor, but then again my palate isn't as refined as others'...

I don't see the Sherry Cask finished around anymore, I think there's a new Brandy Cask finished that's available, but I haven't picked that one up. :cheers:

Gotcha we’ll I’m heading to the store this weekend to stock up on a few different bottles so I’ll let you know what I find and how it is 👍

droptopman 11 October 2018 09:11 AM

Cool thread. I do not drink but I have found some great information here to score some different varieties for friends and family to try. Dad loved the Buffalo Trace that was recommended here. Which lead me to other bottles from the same distillery which he has really enjoyed.

weespeed 11 October 2018 10:19 AM

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Great thread.

As my group of friends get older, we've been drinking lots of whisky and Scotch.
This is what we put down on a typical birthday party I host at my house.

imperio 11 October 2018 03:51 PM

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Heavy hitters!

Prestige_Swiss 12 October 2018 06:21 AM

Love the thread!


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