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FloydRedford 13 April 2025 12:13 AM

Dealbreakers?!?!
 
Hey all,

I just got to thinking about my collection and why I chose to buy this or that and why I didn’t buy others. I’ve realized I have a few “dealbreakers” that guide my decision process like:

1. No large numerals on dial, only indices.
2. No PCL’s or full polish bracelet
3. No 4:30 date window
4. No fauxtina, although my mind may change on this

What say you? Any dealbreakers?


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SLWoodster 13 April 2025 12:25 AM

Usually it’s my wallet that breaks up the deals.

warrior 13 April 2025 12:40 AM

Going forward, NO Rolexes that don’t have AR coating on the underside of the crystal.

FloydRedford 13 April 2025 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrior (Post 13601446)
Going forward, NO Rolexes that don’t have AR coating on the underside of the crystal.


Good point. I probably would agree. Main reason I bought the 226570 over the 216570.


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Snow-Dweller 13 April 2025 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrior (Post 13601446)
Going forward, NO Rolexes that don’t have AR coating on the underside of the crystal.

When did they start?….on which lines?

For me:
legibility is important (white dialled 116520 didn’t last)
I have tired of the cyclops (which partly explains my current fascination with OPs).
I am a great fan of the easy-link, and have retro fitted it to my 5 digit professional pieces.
Finally, my Tudor GMT didn’t last due to the thickness. And whilst on the subject of Tudor…I won’t do snowflakes again…but I’m quite into the idea of a Ranger…

JRell 13 April 2025 01:47 AM

My dealbreakers have changed over the years. Current dealbreaker, needs to have a ceramic bezel.

warrior 13 April 2025 01:48 AM

Started quite a while ago. Across many of the lines. Most Current Subs and GMTs have them now. DJs too. Others can chime in about when Rolex started.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow-Dweller (Post 13601514)
When did they start?….on which lines? The greatest weakness not talked about in Rolex watches IMO. But it’s being addressed now.

For me:
legibility is important (white dialled 116520 didn’t last)
I have tired of the cyclops (which partly explains my current fascination with OPs).
I am a great fan of the easy-link, and have retro fitted it to my 5 digit professional pieces.
Finally, my Tudor GMT didn’t last due to the thickness. And whilst on the subject of Tudor…I won’t do snowflakes again…but I’m quite into the idea of a Ranger…


enjoythemusic 13 April 2025 02:17 AM

No diag date at 4:30
No Candy Pink color (tho reserve the right to change that decision)
Nothing that'll poke my eye out
Legibility is greatly appreciated (tho may or may not be necessary)

Harry-57 13 April 2025 02:22 AM

Wearing comfort. Other than that, if I like it and can afford it, it's in.

alphadweller 13 April 2025 02:29 AM

Size, anything below 38mm and over 45mm is a no-go on my wrist.

BIGMAC142 13 April 2025 02:38 AM

-I feel like I have to have some sort of quick adjustment on the bracelet to really enjoy a watch. I was on the verge of buying a Day-Date but ultimately eliminated it from my dream watches because of this.

-Numerals on the dial being cut off. A. Lange & Sohne is the absolute worst offenders of this and ruins so many watches that could’ve been perfect.

-Too thick of cases. If they are thick it’s a no.

median_red 13 April 2025 02:57 AM

Prominent solid endlinks like the Sub, hate the feel.

Jb1264 13 April 2025 03:01 AM

Diag date at 4:30 is a huge swerve

I have an aversion to red such as the pip on the BB58 which draws my attention not in a good way

I reserve the right to change my mind if I get a Daytona with its red text :chuckle:

joli160 13 April 2025 03:18 AM

It has to be shiny, as long as it has PCL’s and fluted/ ceramic bezel I like it :cheers:

GolfJunkie 13 April 2025 03:53 AM

4:30 date window
Roman numerals
Lack of on the fly adjustment
Anything over 42mm in diameter and ~14mm thickness

THC 13 April 2025 03:59 AM

Love the solid Jubilee bracelets now.. all I need

Krash 13 April 2025 04:13 AM

Dealbreakers?!?!
 
Despite having 7.7” wrists, any watch larger than 42mm is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch less than 38mm is a dealbreaker, too.

I wouldn’t classify Roman numerals as a dealbreaker, but I’m not a fan. Same goes for PCLs.

I know you can swap out the straps in most cases, but as soon as I see a watch on a blue leather strap, I immediately lose interest in it.

In many cases, the date function—no matter where it’s located—is an immediate dealbreaker for me.

Annual or perpetual calendar.

Office GMT vs Travelers GMT: definitely prefer travelers. Office GMT is a dealbreaker for me.

Minute repeater function. I have no interest in having a watch with that function.

Worldtimers. Cool but they’re basically wrong a couple times a year because of how and when some nations change their clock a couple times a year.

Date function on a manually wound watch. That’s a dealbreaker for me.

Square watches. Triangular is fine. Square watches are not.

I’m not a fan of seconds listed instead of minutes. For example, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 instead of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. And this is why the Air King is a watch I’ll never have.


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Toptwo 13 April 2025 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLWoodster (Post 13601429)
Usually it’s my wallet that breaks up the deals.

This! Right here!

Rolexken 13 April 2025 04:46 AM

A black or dark blue coloured face with light coloured/lumed hands to be able to see the time ………

t65tampa 13 April 2025 05:27 AM

I don't like precious metal cases with rubber straps.

GGGMT 13 April 2025 05:34 AM

They’re all good. My dealbreaker is gems. Hate em


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Snow-Dweller 13 April 2025 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krash (Post 13601670)
Despite having 7.7” wrists, any watch larger than 42mm is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch less than 38mm is a dealbreaker, too.

I wouldn’t classify Roman numerals as a dealbreaker, but I’m not a fan. Same goes for PCLs.

I know you can swap out the straps in most cases, but as soon as I see a watch on a blue leather strap, I immediately lose interest in it.

In many cases, the date function—no matter where it’s located—is an immediate dealbreaker for me.

Annual or perpetual calendar.

Office GMT vs Travelers GMT: definitely prefer travelers. Office GMT is a dealbreaker for me.

Minute repeater function. I have no interest in having a watch with that function.

Worldtimers. Cool but they’re basically wrong a couple times a year because of how and when some nations change their clock a couple times a year.

Date function on a manually wound watch. That’s a dealbreaker for me.

Square watches. Triangular is fine. Square watches are not.

I’m not a fan of seconds listed instead of minutes. For example, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 instead of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. And this is why the Air King is a watch I’ll never have.


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Great post. I agree with many, if not all, of your comments above

Snow-Dweller 13 April 2025 05:58 AM

This is becoming an interesting thread…..

InvgrWatches 13 April 2025 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t65tampa (Post 13601719)
I don't like precious metal cases with rubber straps.


I second that.

Mr Ben 13 April 2025 06:31 AM

I reserve the right to change this as I get older but at the moment:
- yellow gold
- diamonds/ gems
- romans (I don’t know why I feel I’m too young for this)
- square and rectangular watches
- anything designed to be sparkly - the disco ball/ patterned dial land dweller is a good example
I never thought about it as a deal breaker before but I agree with the post on blue leather straps. I wouldn’t buy a leather strap unless it was black or brown.

I suppose this translates as anything that is a bit flashy or eye catching. Just realised I’m boring.

thegrandseirolexguy 13 April 2025 06:50 AM

1) 4:30 date window

2) Crown that is too small and fiddly, or lacks proper grip, or is engulfed by the crown guards, thus making it a chore to unscrew the crown to set the date and time.

3) poor legibility

4) WR so poor that you can’t even wash your hands under running water with it, or get caught in heavy rain with it.


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AF_Rob 13 April 2025 07:07 AM

Diamonds and push/pull crowns immediately come to mind. There are more but I’d need to think on it.

I do have push/pull crowns in the collection but won’t add more.


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Shadow Play 13 April 2025 07:12 AM

Has to have a micro adjustment in the bracelet or else easy removable links (Santos style).

Wilco68 13 April 2025 08:52 AM

Dealbreakers for me;-
Reds/blues/greens/brown on bezels.
Less than 40mm case size
No ceramic bezel (vs aluminium)

jb335 13 April 2025 09:06 AM

None. I keep an open mind.


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NachoNeal 13 April 2025 09:44 AM

I'm anti date. Still seems like a totally unnecessary complication.

Pw92676 13 April 2025 09:55 AM

I don’t have any dealbreakers. But I tend to avoid excessive red or green on dials.

omar10213245 13 April 2025 09:55 AM

Dealbreaker for me: ugly watches. So, basically, anything made by Ulysse Nardin

BraveBold 13 April 2025 10:26 AM

Over 30mm and under 50mm for a round dial.

csaltphoto 13 April 2025 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by median_red (Post 13601592)
Prominent solid endlinks like the Sub, hate the feel.

I'm with you on this. Just don't like the look. Prefer articulated end links.

FloydRedford 13 April 2025 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Play (Post 13601798)
Has to have a micro adjustment in the bracelet or else easy removable links (Santos style).


Agreed. I should have put that on my original list. I’ve owned a few non-micro bracelets (Grand Seiko) and had to sell them because of wrist swell or just being in between link sizes so never getting a proper fit.


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shaunylw 13 April 2025 02:41 PM

Micro adjust is a deal breaker for me. I install a ez link on vintage/neo vintage Rolex because it’s needed. The last watch i bought without one was a bb58, it didn’t last long.


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OG1982 13 April 2025 04:59 PM

Two tone and Roman numerals would be 2 that would instantly put me off a watch.

Got to be either steel or full gold, and romans ruin any symmetry on the dial and that important to me. Hence my two current Rolex are a Submariner ND and green OP.


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mpkRolex 13 April 2025 09:25 PM

Mine are 41mm or less dial 12.5mm or less thick and a ticking seconds hand at the center are a must. Daytona is the only exception


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S.Explorer 13 April 2025 09:34 PM

My showstoppers are:

More than 40mm case size
More than 48mm lug to lug
More than 12mm thick case
Anything overpriced
Any hard to read dials
Bi-metal watches


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