104 or 111 or 312 is you guys think better looking ?
 

If price is the same, which is the one you prefer ? There's a lot of panerai, for me almost similar in design, my eyes haven't used to it. :rofl:

On looks alone, imho the 111 is the most 'iconic' looking of these three.

If price is not a factor, then the 312 is hard to get past...
inhouse movement, three days power reserve, date, etc, etc.

For me, the essence of Panerai is functional, stylish simplicity, so it is taking me a while to fully warm up to the autos.

If you get both the 111 and the 312 then you will have a very nice Luminor collection...




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hm what's wrong with 104 ? just wondering because I m lacking knowledge on PAM.

The 104 is a nice watch (I have owned one), but for me at least does not compare with the 111 or 312. However, many people love it - it's an auto (not inhouse), has a date with cyclops, and a painted dial not sandwich like the other two. Same shape case as the 111 and other 'Historic' Luminors, and a solid caseback (111 has exhibition caseback).

Note that the 312 has a '1950' case which is a different shape and wears differently. Also has the quick strap change system (push buttons instead of screws) as does the 104. 111 uses screws, although it's still very easy to change straps.

Best thing, of course, is to handle all three models at the same time but it is not always easy to find an AD with all of the models in stock that you are interested in (certainly not in Australia!)





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got it... yeah for me all of them still look almost the same.... :)

Yes, sometimes the differences between models can be small and subtle so can take a while to 'get your eye in'.

Btw, I was not trying to be rude about the 104 - it was in fact my first PAM, followed by a couple of Radiomirs and then a 111. I no longer have any of these (I am a terrible flipper but that is another story!)

Currently I am trying to decide whether to get another 111, or a 312 or 320 (GMT version of 312), or... :dummy: :chuckle:




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LOL thanks a lot Clive ! seems like all PAM should be fun ....

Agree 100% :thumbsup:

111 in the first place, and 312 in the second.
Both WINNER!!!

312. No doubt...best looking...gorgeous case...fantastic power reserve...as soon as ADs get them they don't last long!

When you factor in cost 111 is very tough to beat.

Fair point Bruno - there's a $2k price difference between the 111 and 312.




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I think the 312 represents the best bang for the buck. Ultimately, you need to see them in the flesh and try them on. The differences are very apparent in person.:cheers:

If price isn't a factor I'd be hard pressed to pass a 312. If it is the 111 would be my choice.

No loser here.:thumbsup:

A consideration not mentioned is that the Pam 312 in 50's Luminor case is a very different shape ( domed back ) and lies much higher on the wrist than the Pam 104...for some people the 50's case on 312 may be a bit cumbersome or uncomfortable, on other forums I've seen posts about the 312 becoming more easily scratched because of this.
All that being said if you look at the 312 and 104 side by side in person...there is no doubt that the 312 is a much better looking watch, it is gorgeous !!! exquisite lines, brushed case, polished bezel, no ugly cyclops over date, the "9"... one of the best looking Panerai you will see, it gives an appearance equal to much more expensive Panerai models... the 104 looks great too, but no comparision.

Also, yes the Pam 111 has an iconic Panerai look for those who prioritize that...but one HUGE difference is that the 111 is a hand wound watch not an automatic, for me personally I have no problem with this ...but its definitely not for everybody and you will be reminded of this every 50 hours or so... I don't see how it can be held in comparison to the other two that are automatics, different worlds.

One more point... Panerai has really evolved in the last couple decades and the "iconic look" is not the first and last word in my humble opinion. Some of the other styles such as the Pam 88 GMT and Pam 24 Submersible have become icons in their own right and should not be quickly overlooked.

The 111,104, 312, 88, 24...are all basically in the same range $5000-$7000 ...if your gonna spend that much for a watch to begin with... the price difference should not be the deciding factor. You should get the one that speaks to you !

You really can't go wrong with any Panerai...the problem is that they have so many great models with individualized styles...its hard to choose just one !
Don't even let me get started on the Radiomirs.

312 :thumbsup: or 111 :clap:

Thanks all for the answer.... it seems it all down to 312 and 111..... i love the look of 104 though, but i know now that pam lovers won't choose it for different reasons.

Hey Andrew...I have the 104.....and I love it.. If it's calling you then that's the way to go..I said 312 because I like the case....but having said that I have never tried one on so haven't had a chance to properly compare.. Always want what we don't have! Are you able to try them on?

Hi, mate. i haven't got a chance to try any of them on my wrist yet.... but based on look alone, it's good enough for me .... TR mentioned to me it's up to me, but he prefers manual winding panerai compared to automatic.... well, i know it's not going to be easy decision here :)

312, 104

Whoa- The 104 seems like the least loved of the three...
...and I'm really happy with mine! I DO tend to root for the underdog... :chuckle:

I just went through a similar decision and ended up going with the 111 because I just couldnt justify the price for the 312 at the moment. After wearing rolexes (36mm) it felt huge at first but once on my wrist it is beautiful. I thought the manual wind would be a pain and take a while to get used to going from an automatic but I just wind it when I take it off before I go to bed and its been good to go all week. I LOVE being able to see the movement, its especially cool when winding. Overall Im very happy with my 111 and Id say go for the 111, unless money is out of the question, in which case go for the 312.

OK all.... got the big picture over it....

I am biased...312 for the most Panerai Bang for the buck...

but you really have to look at them in the metal...

the historic Lums and Rads are really calling me

ANY one of the three.....all great choices for different reasons.:thumbsup::cheers:

:thinking::thinking::thinking:you can never be over opinions surely:chuckle::chuckle:

LOL... true, got the picture but still confused... LOL

Being totally new to the incredible world of Panerai (Day 7 content owner of a 048 beaut!! :wlae:), the deciding factor for me was to try on the "short list" of choices and suggestions from a good friend with an "expert and experienced eye"!
Between two AD's and their staff, a friend and myself - the choice was very obvious - AND not the choice we all thought would be the more sensible buy...:biggrin:
enjoy the hunt!!...and hey, on the upside: whatever the choice - you are going to get a time master piece!!!:thumbsup:

Yup...that's what happens....sit tight..keep mulling it over...and then it'll come to you.....at least that's what happens for me:cheers:

Umm.... 111 / Sandwich Dial

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