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captiva 5 March 2012 12:03 AM

1st Pam 111 or 312
 
Hi, I am currently wearing a DSSD and considering mine 1st PAM.

I would like to seek advices on the pros and cons on 111 and 312.

how about in terms of stripe changing, is it easy?

Or you guys have any model to recommend, my budget is less than 8k.

kilyung 5 March 2012 12:37 AM

Easy. 312 and strap changes are a toothpick away vs fooling with screws/threads.

VetteBandit 5 March 2012 01:09 AM

Both good choices. Different cases, different functions.

Do you want a date function?

I went with the 111. On my skinny wrists it worked better IMO. Mike brings up a good point. The 312 is much easier for strap changes. I wish they would make a 111 with quick release pins.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...t/2ad9c521.jpg

Cru Jones 5 March 2012 02:54 AM

Since you sport a DSSD you shouldn't have an issue with the 1950s case, so, 312 is a great choice. I have the quick change system on my 164 and changing straps is a breeze.

:cheers:

Watchdog 5 March 2012 04:53 AM

Both incredible but different in their appearance. I think I prefer the balance of the 111 but I like the auto function of the 312. Plus the strap change makes a big difference too.

B. Doggy 5 March 2012 05:09 AM

Hard choice. Probably the 312 between those two. Either are great though.

mfer 5 March 2012 05:12 AM

I prefer the non-1950 case and love bases. I'd also consider 000, 112, 176, etc

p_mcgee 5 March 2012 06:20 AM

312, too thick for me but if a DSSD works, 312 should as well

captiva 5 March 2012 08:19 PM

What about a 104? Is it tough to change the stripe?

I been very new to Pam. Apologised for asking stupid questions.

PanosI 5 March 2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung (Post 3116068)
Easy. 312 and strap changes are a toothpick away vs fooling with screws/threads.


X2 :thumbsup:

Psmith 5 March 2012 08:54 PM

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Well, I'll go with the TRF standard response of 'get both'. Then you'll have two quite different yet lovely watches. Perhaps start with the 312 for easy strap changes and auto convenience. Something to be aware of is that the 111 does not hack, which can be off-putting for some.

To compare the 312 with your DSSD, you may find these pics (thanks to Saif/CorruptedSanity) useful...

nauticajoe 5 March 2012 10:53 PM

The 312 has my vote. :thumbsup:

bgriz 6 March 2012 10:15 AM

312

toulouse 6 March 2012 10:48 AM

I'd say 312. In house movement, non-cyclops date, 1950s case, quick strap change. It's an awesome watch.

nick c 6 March 2012 10:50 AM

312:thumbsup:

HDHNTER 6 March 2012 11:22 AM

The 312 :dude:

joleel7 6 March 2012 12:36 PM

I have DSSD and a PAM 416.. I like my PAM with manual wind but it is personal choice :thumbsup: Have you considered a PAM 233?

LNX 6 March 2012 12:53 PM

312 was what I was looking at for my first Panerai, but I just bought a 177 (titanium version of 111) over the weekend. It's being shipped now. I liked the non 1950s case better and decided I could live without the date.

Not that I am going to sit around staring at the back of my case, but the 111's back is frickin beautiful. It is going to be a pleasure to wind every couple days and I look forward to the ritual.

slik_234 6 March 2012 03:29 PM

Love the 1950 case. Initially considered 111 but got great deal on 321. Never look back and happy decided to go with 321. Especially with brushed case. Similar reason when I flipped my GMT IIC for Sub-C. Try them both on so you can tell which one smiles back to you. I found thicker case of 1950 is not an issue for me with smaller wrist. The lug width and strap make difference compared to DSSD in term how they sit on my wrist.

provatocj 7 March 2012 12:38 PM

Pam 312
 
I vote for the 312. I love the 1950's case. I have a 321. Same movement and case. I love it!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...j/556af10e.jpg

Atomant 7 March 2012 01:18 PM

Tough choice. Both very eligible watches. I'd personally pick the ETA based 111.

HDHNTER 7 March 2012 01:28 PM

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...s/JVMedium.jpg

MortgageGuy 7 March 2012 03:01 PM

312 IMO too:thumbsup:

Explorertwo 7 March 2012 04:28 PM

One vote for the 111 here, love the clean dial en lum case. Super reliable!
Cheers!

andrew79 7 March 2012 04:41 PM

vote 111, biased, but for me, you can't go wrong with both.

Steel28 8 March 2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew79 (Post 3123150)
vote 111, biased, but for me, you can't go wrong with both.

+1 on 111, biased here as well:cheers:

Oyster Al 8 March 2012 01:26 AM

111 is a well balanced classic:thumbsup:

Jibba 8 March 2012 02:12 AM

111 was my first and only to this point, but i have to admit that i really want the 312. been closed to flipping on a couple occasions.

LNX 8 March 2012 07:21 AM

Woo hoo! Just received my 177 in the mail today. Formal unboxing to follow from home tonight with wrist pics. Now where they heck are all those additional straps I ordered! :comeandge

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/IMAG0397.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/IMAG0396.jpg

toulouse 8 March 2012 09:00 AM

:cheers::cheers:Congrats on an amazing watch!:cheers::cheers:


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