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wkhalaf 29 March 2013 04:36 AM

Note about winding your rolex
 
hey everyone ! just wanted to note that I was reading my rolex manual (which I bought early 2012) it says wind the watch 20 turns when it is on full stop .. and NOT 30-40 as many posts say

plz feel free to add in your comments :D

Passionata 29 March 2013 04:48 AM

Note about winding your rolex
 
20 is enough ,40 is fully wound


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MonBK 29 March 2013 04:49 AM

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Must be the recession, this is what one of mine says.

cop414 29 March 2013 05:08 AM

I thought that I had read 40 also, might be the difference between "getting it started" and a "full wind"?

Dan Pierce 29 March 2013 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK (Post 4052966)
Must be the recession, this is what one of mine says.

:lol::rofl::rofl::rofl::thumbsup:
dP

wkhalaf 29 March 2013 05:38 AM

hahahahaha monBK "recession" lol !

but they didn't refer to a full wind .. they just said 20 turns

Im Lauf der Zeit 29 March 2013 05:47 AM

If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

MonBK 29 March 2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Im Lauf der Zeit (Post 4053063)
If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

:thinking::thinking:

Olav16710 29 March 2013 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Im Lauf der Zeit (Post 4053063)
If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

80 turns through 90 degrees?

smallcandle 29 March 2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Im Lauf der Zeit (Post 4053063)
If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

In 4+ years on TRF I've never seen a thread with this comment...

DJJon 29 March 2013 08:53 AM

FYI I recently overwound my Caliber 3135 Datejust. What happened was the mainspring engaged some sort if overwind protection detents that made any add'l turns very unsmooth and I thought I had broken it. Once fully unwound it has been back to normal.

So don't overdo it.

rmfnla 29 March 2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJon (Post 4053354)
FYI I recently overwound my Caliber 3135 Datejust. What happened was the mainspring engaged some sort if overwind protection detents that made any add'l turns very unsmooth and I thought I had broken it. Once fully unwound it has been back to normal.

So don't overdo it.

That doesn't sound right...

Tudor66 29 March 2013 03:07 PM

I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

T. Ferguson 29 March 2013 04:01 PM

My GMTII doesn't even start ticking until past 10 turns. Think I'll try an experiment. I know the power reserve on each of my watches so I'll turn each of them 20 times, 30 times, and 40 times and compare the run times.

Should be a simple matter to determine if 20 turns is a full wind since more turns would not result in longer run times.

MonBK 29 March 2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudor66 (Post 4054026)
I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

Makes no sense to me as I've had watches that start after only 2-3 turns.

kirat 29 March 2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJon (Post 4053354)
FYI I recently overwound my Caliber 3135 Datejust. What happened was the mainspring engaged some sort if overwind protection detents that made any add'l turns very unsmooth and I thought I had broken it. Once fully unwound it has been back to normal.

So don't overdo it.


i did that earlier today too! freaked me out.. it was scary sound. im hoping its nothing bad, reading your post sorta made me feel better.. :banghead:

Rogdogg 29 March 2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by T. Ferguson (Post 4054071)
My GMTII doesn't even start ticking until past 10 turns. Think I'll try an experiment. I know the power reserve on each of my watches so I'll turn each of them 20 times, 30 times, and 40 times and compare the run times.

Should be a simple matter to determine if 20 turns is a full wind since more turns would not result in longer run times.

I'd be very interested to know the results of your experiment. Please post a thread once you have had a chance to do so.

padi56 29 March 2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudor66 (Post 4054026)
I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

Complete and utter nonsense when wearing with wrist activity the winding pendulum is still winding the watch.When the mainspring is fully wound a mechanism in the spring barrel lets it slip so you cannot possible overwind.Its exactly the same if you use the winding crown once the mainspring is fully wound it just slips. So you could wind the watch for a hour or so with no harm whatsoever except perhaps too your fingers.And will add most crown related problems are simply down to the winding crown lack of use.Even when worn it will do no harm whatsoever to give watch a full wind say once a week or so.And just look of all the millions of manual wind watches with screw down crowns Rolex included they got fully wound up almost daily without any like your watchmaker said mainspring wear.And a automatic watch is just basically a manual wind watch with a auto wind mechanism and myself would like to see where it states by Rolex to only wind 20 turns.

wkhalaf 29 March 2013 07:45 PM

thanks all for the interesting replies .. plz share your experiences I'm curious to know more :D

77T 29 March 2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wkhalaf (Post 4054240)
thanks all for the interesting replies .. plz share your experiences I'm curious to know more :D

Can you share a pic of the booklet page where it says 20 turns?

You know our mantra right? Pics or it didn't happen :cheers:

wkhalaf 29 March 2013 07:59 PM

sure will do as soon as I take a pic and have access to my desktop .. probably by Sunday? that's almost 48 hrs from now if that's alright :D

hahahaha I like the mantra LOL

69mach351 29 March 2013 08:07 PM

I usuall just give it a couple (if it is not running) and wear it. I have never had one stop if I am wearing it or even wearing it everyday. I have no reasoning for this, aside from 20 turns or 40 turns isn't something that I have ever needed.

crowncollection 29 March 2013 08:45 PM

You can not overwind it. I have had watches start after 1 or 2 winds


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HL65 29 March 2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tudor66 (Post 4054026)
I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

False---Sorry but I have watches that are 50 years plus of age and have been serviced one or twice in lifetime(some never) and they all work and run perfectly! All of them are wound 40 times when taken out of safety deposit box and worn. Winding a watch will not hurt it and anything contrary is pure rubbish IMHO and experience. :cheers:

Armyguy03 29 March 2013 09:42 PM

One time at band camp I had to do a ruck march. I was running late and threw my 16610 on (on the Everest strap). It was dead stopped. By the end of my 6 mile ruck march it was happily ticking away. I'm 100% confident that it was internally wound wayyyyy over 20 times during my trek where my arm was swinging like crazy. Moral of the story, it's your watch, wind it as much as you'd like.

gpfps 29 March 2013 10:14 PM

Thanks Alan I believe your post is right on. Thanks for sharing what your watchmaker told you.

rmfnla 30 March 2013 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tudor66 (Post 4054026)
I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...


30 years of experience is all well and good, but if Rolex says 40 winds is OK then I am going to go with that...

wkhalaf 31 March 2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 77T (Post 4054247)
Can you share a pic of the booklet page where it says 20 turns?

You know our mantra right? Pics or it didn't happen :cheers:

http://s9.postimg.org/ate9iw1u7/photo232.jpg


Please see near the winding button description :)

MonBK 31 March 2013 05:19 PM

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wkhalaf 31 March 2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MonBK (Post 4058315)
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Agreed :)

I noticed it this morning as well .. but why would Rolex say "20" for a partial wind and not mention the limit for a full wind ?

Why is it 20? why not say 40 for full wind ? or 10 for partial wind? or mention both full and partial?

so 20 is sufficient?


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