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men 3 March 2015 04:11 AM

Movement question
 
Hi there,

New on this forum and mostly working on eta/omega stuf.
I'm just trying to find my way in Rolex world.
I'm offered to service 2 watches but wanted first to do some reading and digging on type specific problems etc. before I accept the job.

The watches:
Oyster Perpetual 116034 year: 2009
Oyster Perpetual 177200 year: 2009/2010

Could one help me out on which movement both watches have and are there any specific movement issues known/special service advisory?

Thx
Men

Vanessa CW21 3 March 2015 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by men (Post 5655302)
Hi there,

New on this forum and mostly working on eta/omega stuf.
I'm just trying to find my way in Rolex world.
I'm offered to service 2 watches but wanted first to do some reading and digging on type specific problems etc. before I accept the job.

The watches:
Oyster Perpetual 116034 year: 2009
Oyster Perpetual 177200 year: 2009/2010

Could one help me out on which movement both watches have and are there any specific movement issues known/special service advisory?

Thx
Men

Honestly, if you're not familiar with Rolex movements and haven't received specific training on these movements (they're the 3130 and 2230), I wouldn't recommend trying them out on a customer's watch.
Especially the 2230 is very tricky when it comes to lubrication.

Om eerlijk te zijn, als je die binnenwerken niet goed kent en je geen les heb gehad om die te kuisen en olie te geven, zou ik dat nu niet uitproberen op de horologes van een klant. Zeker het caliber 2230 is moeilijk (dat is in de 31mm).


men 3 March 2015 07:04 AM

Thank you Vannesa,

Bigest challenge will be getting spare parts. I'll take a deep dive in the lubrication and then make up my mind. I can't imagine it will be rocket science.

By the way...what' about the Dutch sentence. Your Dutch? Like the service ��

Cheers,
Men

Vanessa CW21 3 March 2015 07:13 AM

I translated to make sure there weren't any misunderstandings... :chuckle:
I'm from Belgium :cheers:

It's not rocket science but it's also not something you'll get right the first time around... that's why you should practice on practice pieces, and not on customer's watches. The lubrication is very particular, especially for the 2230 and for both, they require TEPA grease on the barrel wall and RL-2 for the pallet stones. The hairspring on the 2230 is very delicate and almost always requires a small adjustment to increase the amplitude. It's up to your own discretion if you will take on this challenge, but I hope you'll inform the customer about your inexperience so they also know the risks.

men 4 March 2015 03:25 PM

The customer knows my work (I serviced several of his watches) and the fact this will be my first Rolex.
"kuisen" reveald your Belgium roots as this is not used in the Netherlands.
I'm trained/educated by a Belgium master watchmaker....heard this word for years 😄 over and over again.

Thanks for your help so far!

Groet,
Men

ajg1960 5 March 2015 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21 (Post 5655766)
I translated to make sure there weren't any misunderstandings... :chuckle:
I'm from Belgium :cheers:

It's not rocket science but it's also not something you'll get right the first time around... that's why you should practice on practice pieces, and not on customer's watches. The lubrication is very particular, especially for the 2230 and for both, they require TEPA grease on the barrel wall and RL-2 for the pallet stones. The hairspring on the 2230 is very delicate and almost always requires a small adjustment to increase the amplitude. It's up to your own discretion if you will take on this challenge, but I hope you'll inform the customer about your inexperience so they also know the risks.

Vanessa-- I'm so happy my watch is in your capable hands--maybe right at this very moment!:clap:

Vanessa CW21 6 March 2015 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajg1960 (Post 5660560)
Vanessa-- I'm so happy my watch is in your capable hands--maybe right at this very moment!:clap:

Thank you, Andy.

men 10 April 2015 04:12 PM

Hi Vanessa,

Just to give you an update. Regarding the fact I could not be able to get all spare parts if needed I rejected them for servicing them.
Not a happy customer .... as Rolex charged him almost € 1000,- for a service and rotor exange for 1 watch and a waiting time of almost 2 months.....


Kind regards,

Men

Vanessa CW21 10 April 2015 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by men (Post 5756639)
Hi Vanessa,

Just to give you an update. Regarding the fact I could not be able to get all spare parts if needed I rejected them for servicing them.
Not a happy customer .... as Rolex charged him almost € 1000,- for a service and rotor exange for 1 watch and a waiting time of almost 2 months.....


Kind regards,

Men

Ugh I know... It sucks... There just aren't enough capable watchmakers around to do the work in a faster turn-a-round. As far as their pricing goes... It's because they can... unfortunately!


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