Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum

Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum (https://www.rolexforums.com/index.php)
-   Patek Philippe Discussion Forum (https://www.rolexforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39)
-   -   Would you do this trade? (https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=585083)

rw2008 8 February 2018 12:49 AM

Would you do this trade?
 
Black Ceramic Daytona and Blue AP 15400 and 1-3k for a 5164a?

Would leave me with the Aquanaut, a Lange 1815 and a 36 mm TT DJ (which I never really wear).

Use the DaytonaC as a daily (and I love it) and I use the AP as more of a fun watch, I also love it but don’t wear it as much as my other 2. The 5164 would be used as a daily/fun piece.

7.5 in wrists.

tng11 8 February 2018 01:02 AM

Financially, sounds like a terrible deal. I think you should be getting cash instead for those two pieces.

But yes I would switch those two for a 5164A. It's the perfect daily wear watch.

wulin 8 February 2018 01:04 AM

I just got a 5164r and love it.

But I would not do this trade. There is a very good chance you will regret getting rid of the Ceramic Daytona and Blue 15400, which is a great combo.

Also 5164 might be a little small for your 7.5 wrist. My wrist is 6.25-6.5 and it fits perfectly.

My advice is get rid of the DJ instead of the Ceramic Daytona.

AK797 8 February 2018 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tng11 (Post 8257994)
Financially, sounds like a terrible deal. I think you should be getting cash instead for those two pieces.

But yes I would switch those two for a 5164A. It's the perfect daily wear watch.

Yes, I would certainly do it, but think you should come out around even, esp if you can do the trade all in one go.

rw2008 8 February 2018 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wulin (Post 8257999)
Also 5164 might be a little small for your 7.5 wrist. My wrist is 6.25-6.5 and it fits perfectly.

This is a huge concern. People talk about how small the DaytonaC wears, but I really like how it wears. If the 5164 wears significantly smaller than that than that's a red flag. For reference I thought the 5712 wore very small, in part due to the thinness.

ap1 8 February 2018 01:26 AM

I think the numbers do not make sense so I’d hold or alter deal. I’d keep Daytona too

rw2008 8 February 2018 01:35 AM

The 5164 is BNIB. Not sure if we are allowed the discuss prices in absolute terms here or not.

What would you guys think is a fair price for BNIB 5164?

texasmade 8 February 2018 01:56 AM

Fair price for BNIB 5164 should be RRP. It's not as in demand (yet) as the 5167, 5711, and 5712.

rw2008 8 February 2018 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasmade (Post 8258160)
Fair price for BNIB 5164 should be RRP. It's not as in demand (yet) as the 5167, 5711, and 5712.

Yeah, so this is priced correctly then.

DeeTee 8 February 2018 02:16 AM

Your trading just for the sake of trading.
I would take the 15400 or 116500 over the 5164a, regardless of msrp.

Unless it’s a Nautilus with a chrono or at least PM, don’t bother.

rw2008 8 February 2018 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeTee (Post 8258240)
Your trading just for the sake of trading.

You might be right, also the itch to own a Patek...

jrs146 8 February 2018 03:55 AM

Would you do this trade?
 
I think I’d pass on that with the money not seeming quite right to me. But I’m not a big Aquanaut fan in general.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

texasmade 8 February 2018 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rw2008 (Post 8258226)
Yeah, so this is priced correctly then.

Not really. Market value for a DaytonaC is like $18k and market price for a blue RO 15400 is approaching $20k. Market price for 5164 is RRP. You're losing out big time doing the trade straight up and even more if you're kicking in additional cash.

You can walk into most Patek AD's and get the 5164 without too much of a wait or fuss (just a few months wait). Try that with the DaytonaC or 15400 blue. You'll be waiting years for the Rolex and maybe a year for the RO.

rw2008 8 February 2018 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasmade (Post 8259125)
Not really. Market value for a DaytonaC is like $18k and market price for a blue RO 15400 is approaching $20k. Market price for 5164 is RRP. You're losing out big time doing the trade straight up and even more if you're kicking in additional cash.

I mean, those are trusted seller prices. I'm not a trusted seller. I'm some random dude on a watch forum.

More realistic combo for the two is probably right around 5164 MSRP.

rolex_addict 8 February 2018 07:07 AM

Pass

RHIII 8 February 2018 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797 (Post 8258024)
Yes, I would certainly do it, but think you should come out around even, esp if you can do the trade all in one go.



^^^^This x2


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

GB-man 8 February 2018 08:41 AM

Sounds about right for trade value. Those watches are easy to move. I would entertain listing and selling them yourself unless a few grand is worth it for peace of mind :cheers:

Baco Noir 8 February 2018 09:18 AM

The Daytona C and Blue AP 15400 give you more variety in your collection and are both very special pieces so no I would not do that trade.

AK797 8 February 2018 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rw2008 (Post 8259138)
I mean, those are trusted seller prices. I'm not a trusted seller. I'm some random dude on a watch forum.

More realistic combo for the two is probably right around 5164 MSRP.

Yes, assuming you can't get the very best prices I think this is a fair swap.

Hairdude1 8 February 2018 09:30 AM

I would pass on that deal

texasmade 8 February 2018 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rw2008 (Post 8259138)
I mean, those are trusted seller prices. I'm not a trusted seller. I'm some random dude on a watch forum.

More realistic combo for the two is probably right around 5164 MSRP.

The fact you're throwing in additional cash on top of the your 2 watches having a higher market value makes it a bad really bad trade for you.

SL BRABUS 8 February 2018 12:38 PM

No way....:thumbsdow

:cheers:

rw2008 8 February 2018 12:52 PM

Thanks everyone for your feedback and advice.

Think I’m gonna wait and go the AD route on this one. Probably time to build a relationship with a Patek AD anyway. Here’s hoping these don’t skyrocket in demand after the price increase.

Thanks again everyone.

goog53 8 February 2018 09:44 PM

I love Patek but no way I would give up those two

ILikeTacos 9 February 2018 12:30 AM

I think it's a bad deal from a dollar value perspective and also from a watch collection perspective.

The 5164a is a great watch, no doubt, but I think the Daytona C + Blue 15400 is a better pair than that singular Patek. If you were gung-ho on doing it, I would try to sell them independently on here to see if you can generate more than the 30-31k you would be getting from a trade.

rw2008 9 February 2018 01:09 AM

So if I wait till later in the year (assuming no price increase) than I would only need to flip one of them.

So the question becomes, which would you rather?

DaytonaC, 5164 and 1815

or

5164, 15400 and 1815 (and get back on the waitlist for a white Daytona)

I'm leaning towards the second set, from a balance perspective, but I would definitely miss the Daytona.

goog53 9 February 2018 01:18 AM

Can you get another Daytona at retail assuming that is what you paid for the current one? if the answer is no then I wouldn't move it. All of the other pieces can be easily had plus Rolex will increase prices soon.

ap1 9 February 2018 01:19 AM

1, nothing to beat on for 2. You need all 4 dude

RHIII 9 February 2018 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rw2008 (Post 8261509)
So if I wait till later in the year (assuming no price increase) than I would only need to flip one of them.

So the question becomes, which would you rather?

DaytonaC, 5164 and 1815

or

5164, 15400 and 1815

I'm leaning towards the second set, from a balance perspective, but I would definitely miss the Daytona.



If it were me it would be the latter.

5164, 15400, and 1815 — no doubt. [emoji1303]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

rw2008 9 February 2018 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goog53 (Post 8261549)
Can you get another Daytona at retail assuming that is what you paid for the current one? if the answer is no then I wouldn't move it. All of the other pieces can be easily had plus Rolex will increase prices soon.

Yeah, I got the Daytona at retail.

I could get another, and I'd put in for one, I'd would just have to wait, which I'm fine with.


All times are GMT +10. The time now is 05:38 AM.