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powerfunk 15 May 2020 10:16 PM

Rolex Zephyr models
 
As a fan of Rolex's "Zephyr" models, I wanted to put together a coherent timeline/list of variants. Two things define a Zephyr: a crosshair dial, and one of these two bezels types:

https://i.imgur.com/VMoNDmT.png

There are some Rolexes with only a Zephyr bezel, or only a crosshair dial, and I'll leave it to you to decide if those are true "Zephyrs," as that's a collector term and not an official Rolex term. I'll try to include them all in this list.

Men's Oyster models

1956-1960: Ref. 6582
https://i.imgur.com/ZHmnLnbh.png


1960-1967: 1008/1009
https://i.imgur.com/InTyulgh.png


1967-1987: 1038
(first "Guill. Ind" bezel rather than "Guill. Fant")
https://i.imgur.com/FxvyJbkh.png


1969-1973: 1512
(only Zephyr with a date)
https://i.imgur.com/bCEFlNDh.png



Ladies' models

1971-1983: 6724
1983-1996: 67243

https://i.imgur.com/3pk4B0Wh.png



Non-Oyster models

1962-1966: 9919/9522
https://i.imgur.com/ipNjbZIh.png


Mid-1960's: 3694 pendant watch
https://i.imgur.com/lvVwF07h.png



Misc. crosshair dials

1950's: 656x models with crosshair dials
https://i.imgur.com/aAOHNzyh.jpg


1950's: Tudor 79xx models with crosshair dials
https://i.imgur.com/nPrCGcDh.png


Some Tru-Beats have crosshair dials too:
https://i.imgur.com/o5adKE0l.png

Dan Pierce 15 May 2020 10:19 PM

Wow, that's a Zephyr Master Class right there, Rob! Always loved the minimalism of these dials. Thanks for sharing!
dP

powerfunk 15 May 2020 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Pierce (Post 10613094)
Wow, that's a Zephyr Master Class right there, Rob! Always loved the minimalism of these dials. Thanks for sharing!

My pleasure, thanks Dan :cheers:

powerfunk 15 May 2020 11:27 PM

And these aren't really Zephyrs but deserve an honorable mention in the "miscellaneous crosshair dial" category. Dustproof references 6422 and 4499:

https://i.imgur.com/FXlndG6h.png

powerfunk 20 May 2020 06:22 AM

Ref. 4081 has a "Guill Ind" bezel so I suppose it deserves a mention here too:
https://i.imgur.com/qfJSe52.png

powerfunk 7 September 2020 02:48 AM

Welp, my assertion that Zephyr was just a collector nickname was totally wrong. Rolex has used it in advertising:

https://i.imgur.com/fQ65RLhh.png

powerfunk 4 October 2020 10:33 PM

Forgot about the Cellini 4320:

https://i.imgur.com/mOhXNM6h.png

powerfunk 24 December 2020 02:38 PM

This Cellini with a Zephyr dial was listed as a "ref. J691":

https://i.imgur.com/FHV5xqFh.png

powerfunk 22 May 2021 11:05 PM

Here's another "Zephlini" ref. 3637:

https://i.imgur.com/uhxOkwZh.png

Old Expat Beast 24 May 2021 03:47 PM

Awesome thread Rob. Thanks for putting it together and keeping it going! :cheers:

Boopie 13 June 2021 11:59 AM

Excellent!

So, the 1038 didn’t have alpha hands…is there a reason why some has the regular baton hands and others had the paddle hands? Was it based on the dial color?

214270Explorer 14 June 2021 10:48 AM

Thanks for posting those items, which many of us have never seen.

Fabian Schwab 19 November 2022 05:18 AM

Hello Powerfunk,
i have a question. Where did you find the information that the 6582 was only available with white and gold dial? (stated in one of the pictures). I just bought a 6582 with black dial (i hope its real lol, bought with ebay authenticity guarentee).. And ive seen a few pictures online of 6582s with black dial. thank you!

powerfunk 19 November 2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabian Schwab (Post 12475568)
Where did you find the information that the 6582 was only available with white and gold dial?

I'd only ever seen silver and gold before when I wrote that, guess I was wrong!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabian Schwab (Post 12475568)
I just bought a 6582 with black dial (i hope its real lol, bought with ebay authenticity guarentee)!

I'm sure it's fine! Got any pics?

Fabian Schwab 19 November 2022 12:18 PM

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thanks for the quick response!
And i meant silver and gold in the previous post, not white and gold.
I also found an article that said the 6582 came out in silver, gold and black (i cant post the link because i dont have 10 posts yet, i made the account just for this question. But the sites name is dellaroccagioielli )
So i hope mine is fine 😅 its on the way to me right now. Thats how it looks like:

TimeToGo 21 November 2022 09:20 PM

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Look forward to seeing better pictures of the black dial. Writing looks sloppy.
Ebay Authenticity would not know the difference in dials.

TimeToGo 21 November 2022 10:35 PM

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Just found the listing on the bay, that dial does not look good at all.
You may want to contact Ebay to see if they will comment on it to give you the quickest opportunity to initiate the return, unless you are ok with it.
I even doubt that dial was black to begin with.
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77T 21 November 2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo (Post 12479537)
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Just found the listing on the bay, that dial does not look good at all.

Yes, the dial is refinished. Not saying the underlying dial plate wasn’t a genuine Zephyr but no way to know.

Key is how the crosshairs don’t intersect the coronet correctly - offset to the 1 o’clock side.

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Fabian Schwab 22 November 2022 07:07 AM

Hey guys, thanks for your help! I can return the watch, i bought it from a commercial seller, not a privat person, so i can just return it. Do you think its not an real zephyr or just not an original black dial? I think tomorrow there will be the result of the ebay authentication, but as you said, i am also not really sure how good they check

Fabian Schwab 22 November 2022 07:49 PM

The authentication service said original watch with refinished dial. The seller will make me a new offer. (it was sold for 4k). What would be a good price?

TimeToGo 22 November 2022 07:57 PM

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I would recommend to pass on the watch altogether.

Old Expat Beast 22 November 2022 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabian Schwab (Post 12481122)
The authentication service said original watch with refinished dial. The seller will make me a new offer. (it was sold for 4k). What would be a good price?

Just send it back. That dial is horrible and kills the watch.

Fabian Schwab 23 November 2022 04:49 AM

Thanks! Do you just don‘t like it visually or also think its not worth anything anymore since its refinshed?

Old Expat Beast 23 November 2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabian Schwab (Post 12481814)
Thanks! Do you just don‘t like it visually or also think its not worth anything anymore since its refinshed?

It's worth a fraction of what it would be worth with an original dial, assuming you were ever able to resell it.

TimeToGo 10 April 2023 08:59 PM

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Let's update the available Zephyr models to include the 1510. Maybe the OP can find more information.
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1510 discussed here:
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...0#post12715320
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powerfunk 11 April 2023 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo (Post 12715328)
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Let's update the available Zephyr models to include the 1510. Maybe the OP can find more information.
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1510 discussed here:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...0#post12715320
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Good point, Zephyr dials can be found on 1510's! They have a Morellis bezel, not a Zephyr bezel, so I'm not sure I'd fully consider it a Zephyr, but pretty close! Zephyr dials can also be found on other rare gold 150x models like the 1506 with Chine bezel.

dja 4 August 2023 01:50 AM

I rotate my daily wear, and right now it's a Zepher in mint shape I picked up a while back

Legend of Boston 10 December 2023 01:15 AM

Replacement Dial?
 
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Hello,
I have what I believed to be a 1008 Zephyr. From the little research I have done and from the examples I have seen on this thread it looks most likely that the dial has been replaced.
Regards,
Oli


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