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socialpro 23 May 2020 08:31 AM

Is there any effect of ceramic daytona age on price?
 
Looking at two white ceramic daytonas, does a 2 year newer watch justify a premium (looking at around $500 difference)?

Outside of having more warranty - any other value added benefits to the newer watch? Is having a rolex warranty on this watch even an issue?

I'm not sure how it is with the ceramic daytona, some watches it can actually work the other way around on pricing.

Thanks for the help!

1665fan 23 May 2020 08:53 AM

Not really

10klakes 23 May 2020 09:04 AM

Condition will influence a price difference. If the two year newer watch is that much less worn and the condition shows, yes price would/should.

Otherwise, as long as the watch is still in production, and we’re not talking last year made iteration, condition the same, should be no difference in price imo.

socialpro 23 May 2020 09:12 AM

OK Interesting - I would have thought maybe effect of warranty or so would carry some weight on pricing.

Will keep all this in mind moving forward.

icnbne 23 May 2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by socialpro (Post 10629501)
OK Interesting - I would have thought maybe effect of warranty or so would carry some weight on pricing.

Will keep all this in mind moving forward.

Warranty is worth 1k at most given you can get it serviced to gain 2 years
Negligible compared to the price of the daytona at grey market prices..

RHIII 23 May 2020 11:03 PM

It is absolutely non-sensical to pay more money for a longer warranty period in a modern watch - especially a Rolex.

The probability of actually having to USE the warranty is very small.


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peterpl 23 May 2020 11:05 PM

There will be a slight price difference.

A 2015 NIB will fetch LESS than a 2019 NIB. Might not be that much less but it will be less.

Chester01 23 May 2020 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by socialpro (Post 10629450)
Looking at two white ceramic daytonas, does a 2 year newer watch justify a premium (looking at around $500 difference)?

Outside of having more warranty - any other value added benefits to the newer watch? Is having a rolex warranty on this watch even an issue?

I'm not sure how it is with the ceramic daytona, some watches it can actually work the other way around on pricing.

Thanks for the help!



No. I would say 98% of all ceramic daytonas out there have not even been worn, simply flipped by the buyers. Read the posts around here, you have many saving them, putting them in a vault and sitting on them, or buying stickers to protect them from life. So no, I would not pay a premium for a newer version, but I would not pay over MSRP for a watch.

brandrea 23 May 2020 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RHIII (Post 10630576)
It is absolutely non-sensical to pay more money for a longer warranty period in a modern watch - especially a Rolex.

The probability of actually having to USE the warranty is very small.


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I agree wholeheartedly :cheers:

Sellers will find any reason to try to charge more, including: date on tne warranty card, stickers, etc:chuckle:

socialpro 27 May 2020 09:35 AM

Thanks for all the heads up. I do see newer watches many times listed at premiums, just wondered if buyers are actually paying those premiums or valuing the 'sell' date or not. If there is no difference on value of the 2nd hand market, no reason for me to overpay as well.

I swap buy and sell cars way more then watches, so know those markets quite a bit better - and for cars (especially german) warranty is king.

Tools 27 May 2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by socialpro (Post 10629501)
OK Interesting - I would have thought maybe effect of warranty or so would carry some weight on pricing.

Will keep all this in mind moving forward.

It does carry weight.

But buying used watches is like buying used anything else, it is what the buyer is willing to accept and you are willing to pay.

There are no set pricing tags for used watches, Daytona or not. :cheers:

socialpro 27 May 2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools (Post 10638053)
It does carry weight.

But buying used watches is like buying used anything else, it is what the buyer is willing to accept and you are willing to pay.

There are no set pricing tags for used watches, Daytona or not. :cheers:

Fair enough - just trying to get a general opinion if one *would* pay more for a 2 year newer watch, if presented with two identical options otherwise.

Rocco21 27 May 2020 10:35 AM

I’d gladly pay 500 more for two years newer.

Tools 27 May 2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by socialpro (Post 10638082)
Fair enough - just trying to get a general opinion if one *would* pay more for a 2 year newer watch, if presented with two identical options otherwise.

Absolutely - this isn't a "premium", it's a watch that is 2 years newer, all else being equal.

Asumer 27 May 2020 02:09 PM

Also with newer watches, besides what other posters have said, rolex has done small improvements over the years quietly on certain models/movements, not saying its with the daytonas you are looking at but it has happened in the past. I'd do the extra 500 for the newer as long as the seller is trustworthy.

From Hodinkee after touring the rolex factory:

"The caliber 4130, Rolex's in-house chronograph caliber, I am told, has received numerous updates since its launch, but without much mention from Rolex, or the press. "

socialpro 28 May 2020 08:10 AM

Thanks all. Pulled the trigger on the newer watch. 1st Daytona for me. No better time then now.

kumar75203 28 May 2020 09:57 AM

There definitely seems to be which I'm a little surprised by. Depends on how important warranty is to you.

Tools 28 May 2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by socialpro (Post 10640142)
Thanks all. Pulled the trigger on the newer watch. 1st Daytona for me. No better time then now.

That's exactly right.

I payed MSRP for an 116520 a few years back. It was $10k, an outrageous price to pay for a SS model.

I'm glad that I'm still hanging onto it. :cheers:

Maxy 28 May 2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools (Post 10640460)
That's exactly right.



I payed MSRP for an 116520 a few years back. It was $10k, an outrageous price to pay for a SS model.



I'm glad that I'm still hanging onto it. :cheers:

I always regret not buying 520 during Ceramic Daytonas release. It was under $10K. But eventually got 500 on Msrp before price increase. So it's all fine!


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