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pbjelly 19 July 2021 11:29 PM

Winding a rolex
 
How many times do you wind a submariner and sea dweller(turns)? Can you over-wind? How often do you wind yours(daily/every other day)? I am looking at the booklet and the instructions seem vague.

CharlesN 19 July 2021 11:43 PM

Your watch is Automatic so it winds whilst you wear it.

On a winder it would require 650 Turns per day either CW or CCW or a mixture of the two.

You can not overwind your watch .. It has a mechanism to stop overwinding.

I hardly ever wind my watch (Submariner-Date) I only wind it if I decide not to wear it for a few days and it stops.

40 turns of the crown usually is enough for ne to have a fully wound watch.

Dr.Balance 19 July 2021 11:43 PM

As far as I know, you only wind the watch to get it started if it has stopped. I’m not certain but I don’t think you can overwind any modern Rolex. Maybe someone else on here can confirm this?

Farsh14 19 July 2021 11:54 PM

Wind aboht 40x is correct and you can never over wind a sub. They are “dummy proof” from what I’ve gathered

Dirt 20 July 2021 12:55 AM

If I'm wearing mine constantly I never ever have to wind it.

Dirt 20 July 2021 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Balance (Post 11589828)
As far as I know, you only wind the watch to get it started if it has stopped. I’m not certain but I don’t think you can overwind any modern Rolex. Maybe someone else on here can confirm this?

You're basically correct.
Except it's entirely dependent upon how much one moves their wrist. Not enough movement will result in an unwound watch and it will prematurely stop if set aside for a short period.
If one is moving enough it will be fully wound automatically and it is not possible to overwind an automatic watch per se.

dawalsh 20 July 2021 01:34 AM

40 turns. I wind when it needed.

csaltphoto 20 July 2021 03:44 AM

I wind mine once or twice a week. I find it keeps marginally better time when fully topped off. That being said I never wound it the first six months or so just to see what happened and it never stopped.

214270Explorer 20 July 2021 05:00 AM

40 'twists' always does it.
Cannot be over-wound, as mentioned above. Rolex have a clutch that slips when fully wound, so barrel spring breakage is avoided.

Yachtbuoy 20 July 2021 07:26 AM

I have a vintage 1603 but typically if my watch is averaging a little fast, I'll give it a wind to top up the mainspring and let it sit crown up overnight. If the watch has stopped, I'll wind it about 25 times and then just set the time. Generally I move enough in a day that I won't need to wind it daily.

Jrsanchez 20 July 2021 07:40 AM

What if you don’t wind it and put it on

Calatrava r 20 July 2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jrsanchez (Post 11590669)
What if you don’t wind it and put it on

With vigorous wear it will fully wind, but 20 turns or so is preferable for maximum accuracy. Any watch struggles when it is fully run down to keep accurate time.

Casotakar 20 July 2021 02:55 PM

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but can’t you feel the winding mechanism slipping to prevent overwinding? After I wind my watch (about 40ish turns) after it sits for a couple days, at a certain point I can feel (at the tip of my fingers) the winding slipping ever so slightly. I read somewhere it is the decoupling mechanism to prevent over winding.

Fact check me please. Can’t find old thread now.

Dirt 20 July 2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Casotakar (Post 11591302)
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but can’t you feel the winding mechanism slipping to prevent overwinding? After I wind my watch (about 40ish turns) after it sits for a couple days, at a certain point I can feel (at the tip of my fingers) the winding slipping ever so slightly. I read somewhere it is the decoupling mechanism to prevent over winding.

Fact check me please. Can’t find old thread now.

Yes, you're about right:thumbsup:
There is a "kind of" decoupling happening but what you are mostly feeling is a combination of a kind of decoupling and re-coupling occurring in quick succession.

Dirt 20 July 2021 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jrsanchez (Post 11590669)
What if you don’t wind it and put it on

As long as one is not in a comatose state, the watch will wind up all by itself.
How much it will wind is entirely dependent upon the amount of movement it gets within a given period.

For me personally on a relatively casual day, it works out to be a 6:1 ratio.
8 hours of wear from a dead stop equates to 48 hours of power reserve(fully wound), or 1 hour of wear from a dead stop equates to 6 hours of power reserve.

carbon888 20 July 2021 05:19 PM

Sorta off-topic. When I finish unscrewing the crown (counterclockwise), I have to turn clockwise a little bit before it pops out into the winding position. Is that normal?

Casotakar 20 July 2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirt (Post 11591375)
Yes, you're about right:thumbsup:
There is a "kind of" decoupling happening but what you are mostly feeling is a combination of a kind of decoupling and re-coupling occurring in quick succession.

Thanks, I feel that for sure but it’s so slight I have to pay attention.

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Originally Posted by carbon888 (Post 11591380)
Sorta off-topic. When I finish unscrewing the crown (counterclockwise), I have to turn clockwise a little bit before it pops out into the winding position. Is that normal?

Yes, both mine do the same thing.

VonSomething 20 July 2021 05:28 PM

You can't over wind any automatic watch. The mainspring is designed to prevent this. I believe it's also called a slipping clutch mechanism. I usually wind them with 20-25 turns and then put it on the wrist.

I have Automatic Seiko's that don't have a manual winding mechanism, these I just gently shake back/forth 10 times before putting it on and the wrist movement throughout the day is more than enough to keep them running overnight. So with that in mind, just a 5-10 winds should be more than enough to keep it running if you're going to wear it throughout the day.

saxo3 20 July 2021 06:23 PM

Winding a rolex
 
Recently, I did some systematic measurements for 4 watches, equipped with 32xx and 31xx movements. The results are shown and explained here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=808

Rashid.bk 20 July 2021 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo3 (Post 11591412)
Recently, I did some systematic measurements for 4 watches, equipped with 32xx and 31xx movements. The results are shown and explained here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=808

Great info.


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