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thsiao 25 October 2022 04:11 PM

Push pins on newer Submersibles
 
I just got a 979 and I’m a little dumbfounded by the type of push pins Panerai has put on these watches. They have no edges and are literally just a cylinder with the smooth push pins. One, the only way to remove them is by pushing through the hole on the lug, which does not allow you to prevent any damages to the rear of the lug/inside the lug as the pin is coming out. Two, since the freaking thing is so thick, it is not compatible with other Panerai straps that already have a tube in them. WTF…

Am I the only one confused here?

htc8p 25 October 2022 06:17 PM

the tool separates into 2. one for pressing on the button and the other to push the spring bar on the side. you have to press and hold for both.

thsiao 25 October 2022 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htc8p (Post 12437206)
the tool separates into 2. one for pressing on the button and the other to push the spring bar on the side. you have to press and hold for both.

Which tool? It only came with the screwdriver.

htc8p 25 October 2022 11:55 PM

I think you got short changed.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c79b2f16ad.jpg


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htc8p 25 October 2022 11:57 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8c4be81adf.jpg


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brandrea 26 October 2022 01:44 AM

I’m not familiar with this style of pin. It looks as though Bert is though.

We’re there any instructions that came with the watch?

Cru Jones 26 October 2022 05:32 AM

Maybe there is something different with the pins because the 979 is a Carbotech model?

I don’t think it has a the quick strap change buttons on the underside of the lugs, so I’m not surprised it didn’t come with the two-piece tool Bert shows above….

(Setting aside this question, the 979 looks really cool. Congrats!)

thsiao 26 October 2022 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones (Post 12438026)
Maybe there is something different with the pins because the 979 is a Carbotech model?

I don’t think it has a the quick strap change buttons on the underside of the lugs, so I’m not surprised it didn’t come with the two-piece tool Bert shows above….

(Setting aside this question, the 979 looks really cool. Congrats!)

That’s right. Looks like the Carbotech models have a different system. Other Submersibles have the quick change system or just the traditional screw. The Carbotech though has this push pin that is different from the regular push pins in the sense that it has no edges to use the strap changing tool to pull the pin down. You can only push the pin down through the opening in the lug. But then that means the only way out of the lug is just to slide it out which inevitably means you are scratching the inside of the lugs and the backside once the pin comes out of the lug area. Hope that makes sense. Not sure why they decided to use this type of push pin, very bizarre. I’ve never seen it on any other watch.

Cru Jones 26 October 2022 05:48 AM

^ maybe because they can’t have the pin “screw in” into the carbo tech material? Sorry, I don’t know for sure. Hope this doesn’t take too much enjoyment away from the new watch. :cheers:

thsiao 26 October 2022 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones (Post 12438055)
^ maybe because they can’t have the pin “screw in” into the carbo tech material? Sorry, I don’t know for sure. Hope this doesn’t take too much enjoyment away from the new watch. :cheers:

Yeah that’s what I figured… but they could’ve just used a regular push pin instead. Just bizarre!

htc8p 26 October 2022 05:37 PM

maybe you have to be careful with these materials.

i know the BMG tech case cracks or whatever panerai calls these materials.

be aware

waterman1 26 October 2022 06:14 PM

Congrats on the 979! It’s probably my most comfortable watch. I love it. OK, yes it is simple use of lug holes. I use a pin to push through the hole, pushing the lug out. No scratches. Easy. Secure. And they are nice sturdy spring bars.
As for why no locking system like in other models ; not sure but I’ve heard not used with carbotech. I could argue less can go wrong with simple shoulderless spring bars and lug holes.

nashh 27 October 2022 05:10 PM

Got the same push pins for my 1312. Work as a charm without scratching the timepiece. No complains whatsoever

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rambo99 27 October 2022 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nashh (Post 12440408)
Got the same push pins for my 1312. Work as a charm without scratching the timepiece. No complains whatsoever

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the 979 doesn't has the quick change button as on your 1312, they are different system.

Megalobyte 30 October 2022 03:18 PM

The 979 uses shoulderless spring bars. They are not meant to be used with tubes in the straps. You remove it like any spring bar with drilled lugs.

thsiao 31 October 2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Megalobyte (Post 12445055)
The 979 uses shoulderless spring bars. They are not meant to be used with tubes in the straps. You remove it like any spring bar with drilled lugs.

What I question is why they used shoulder-less spring bars. They are uncommon and this particular one is unnecessarily thick.

Megalobyte 3 November 2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thsiao (Post 12446048)
What I question is why they used shoulder-less spring bars. They are uncommon and this particular one is unnecessarily thick.


Because with drilled lugs you don’t need shoulders and this way you don’t need tubes either as the larger diameter bars fill up that space. It’s a pretty ideal setup for this watch.


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