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Originally Posted by saxo3
For the past 5 months, there has been a lot of text chatter within this thread but almost no new data collected or posted for discussion and understanding.
This is a shame as a lot of chat without data is defeating the original purpose of this thread: to collect and discuss new 32xx data.
We seem to be getting nowhere without new data added. Personally, I think 32xx watches from 2020/21 are very interesting to investigate.
CharlesN (some still remember him?) is "absent" for some months, therefore a major source of valuable data is on hold now.
The data collected by Charles and others were useful and all pertaining to the original subject of this thread, which is all about the possible, and now probable, problems that are being seen in the 32xx movements, both older and newer ones.
Data from other movements are often not applicable within this discussion and only fogs the analysis.
After all, many other members were willing and able to not just measure their watch but also to do it under several conditions: various positions (CH, CB, 9H, 6H, 3H), rate and amplitude changes, accuracy and precision measurements along the entire power reserve (about 72 hours), number of windings to obtain maximum caliber amplitude .... all of that in a known, accurate, systematic, and precise way.
This all led to some really interesting, proven, and recorded analysis with the aim to better understand when and possibly why and how some of the problems manifest themselves.
Perhaps, and I can only hope, that one day, sooner rather than later, Charles will re-join this thread and will be back on course providing data.
I should mention that we both have measured the rate temperature dependence of 32xx watches and see a reproducible and rather strong difference between "cold" and "warm", but this seems too much here.
Charles, if you are reading this post please re-join us here, we need more interesting contributions.
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This is still a spot where people come and see data and talk about the issue.
From my perspective you complete overanalyse the issue. The thread has demonstrated what happens multiple times over.
1. Timing changes on the watch.
2. Timegrapher shows amp dropping below spec.
3. The really bad ones can hold amp over 210 at full wind dial up.
4. Unlike a healthy movement as the pr drops the movement slows down further.
5. There is no known fix yet.
6. No one that actively contributes here is a watchmaker and therefore we can't go much further with this.
You’ve been hinting at knowing temp data for awhile but never share anything. You act like a person that is better than everyone but for me you’re just a person completely fixated on data for the sake of data.
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