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					Originally Posted by  Gotwire
					 
				 
				With a few exceptions ALS is on the lower side of liquidity and value retention. This only became an issue for me when I was asked to bundle the 1815 Tourbillon with the Zeitwerk Lumen. The 1815 is $180900 full pay upfront with 12 month wait. It’s a beautiful piece as are all ALS but I have no interest in this piece. It was merely a means to an end as proposed by ALS. So I looked into the secondary market for the 1815 Tourbillon and the best offers I could get for new, never worn with stickers, box and papers was in the $90k range. That’s a real life contemporary scenario as created by ALS themselves. 
			
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I can certainly appreciate your experience, and I will agree that the higher up you get within a brand both the value retention and liquidity can get worse. 
I am not in a position to acquire neither a Lumen nor a 1815 Tourbillon, but I had relatively fine interest for both my 1815 up/down and my 1815 Chrono. As I think about it, it may not make sense to talk about value retention/liquidity for brands as a whole (except maybe Rolex), but rather for specific models.