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Old 15 December 2009, 10:28 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by DWdrummer View Post
With all due respect to you. That is a foolish argument. You can not completely and always control every situation you will find yourself in. You can be aware of your surrounding and take other steps and precautions, but you can not control everything all the time.

I have shot CQB style and had lethal force training over the years. I can reliably draw from concealment and put rounds on target in a couple of seconds. Sometimes faster. You have the element of surprise on your side.
Granted criminals pick those they perceive as weak. I have made very stern eye contact with people whom I felt were sizing me up. They went elsewhere to be sure.

Who do you think a criminal will try to rob first? A 250lb guy who looks like a threat or a 110lb woman dragging her 2 year along behind her? Criminals are scumbags of opportunity and cowardice.


Sometimes things go south and you have to do things you would not otherwise care to do. I will not be a victim. I might go down in the fight, but I will never be a victim.

When I was 18, I had two close friends carjacked, driven to a remote construction site, gang raped and killed. They gave the jerks their money and their new SUV, but that wasnt enough. There were four scumbags and only ONE was armed. He lifted his shirt and showed his weapon and abducted them from a crowded sidewalk near a nightclub at night.
They should have never gone, but they were afraid and scared I guess. We will never know. They suffered horrible things before their deaths.

If someone walked up to me and showed a gun in his pants and demanded anything of me or mine, I will put him down. Period. I see no other alternative at that point. I hope I never find myself in such a position but I will fight until I am dead or I have control.

My two cents on it.


I agree with everything you say. But, if a REAL criminal, not some punk that would flash you a gun comes up and puts a gun to your head.... Lets just say that the average person with great training wouldn't be able to react in time or just might freeze.

I am not knocking you and I am sure you have great training. But, the best defense is awareness and keeping yourself from getting into a situation in the first place. A criminal has the advantage of surprise because he's the aggressor. I rather disarm the assailant without having to pull a piece. And when I disarm, and I will, the story changes and I write the ending.

But, my original comments were made to ward off people from getting put in situations where they can be victimized. I am not arguing in favor or against weapons. All I meant to say is that most people don't or have never had to use them outside of a training facility. And real world situations are extremely and dangerously different from a class room.

The rules state that the subject of guns is not allowed and I want to stay clear of the subject. I am talking about being safe. I have my wife valet at the malls and restaurants when she is not with me. All in an effort to avoid confrontations life the OP, regrettably, had to experience.
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