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Lol-x · 5 March 2008, 02:02 PM

I spent a couple of months trying to find a PAM00177.

Several deals where going to happen then fell through for one reason or another. Then the supply of 177s seemed to dry up. Then 2 weeks ago I came across an auction in Japan. Anyway after some discussions I got my first Panerai.

I'm quite happy about the watch and here are a few photos:

Here is a comparison with a 41mm Seamaster GMT

It seems to be about the limits of size for my wrist.

The watch although 44mm is very comfortable it being made of titanium.
The lack of a hacking movement is a little disappointing and I can't seem to put backward pressure on the crown to hold the second hand to otherwise cause the second hand to stop moving. As a result it is not possible (so it seems) to have the exact to the second time set.

I do think it will be much nicer on a good leather strap.

The black hands look great, the display back is really cool and the manual wind is something that already I'm surprised I find quite enjoyable.

I don't understand having a COSC rating but not being able to set the second hand

Please tell me if I'm missing something.

Overall, I do think this is a very interesting watch that will wear well on the weekends. It does have quite a tool like ruggedness that I really appreciate.

Launch Mini · 5 March 2008, 02:17 PM

Looks good. I see it is the new series with the tiny roller in the cam on the crown guard.
I assume this also has the quick change system, with the pins, for strap changes?

Launch Mini · 5 March 2008, 02:21 PM

Since you have a brown croc, I think a black leather, white stich would be a great second strap.

Lol-x · 5 March 2008, 03:12 PM

I'm going for a Militare black stitching strap by Greg Stevens.

The strap only appears to have screws, there is no other visible quick release device for the strap change. Again I'm not sure if this is what I am supposed to be looking at.

Black with white stitch would definitely be cool, but I am trying to offset the darker colour of the titanium case with a lighter coloured tan. I really can't wait until I get the Militare with black stitching.

The watch is a 'j' series and was sold in July 2007, so it still has over 1 year warranty

rpryan55 · 5 March 2008, 03:54 PM

I have a Panerai Luminor Marina, as well, a 40mm Pam 48, and it has a hacking movement simply by pulling out the crown all the way - why do you think the 40 and 44 mms mechanicals are that different? I'd be interested to know, if anyone has the answer.

oyster21 · 5 March 2008, 04:00 PM

Congrat Steve! wear in good health.
Black leather strap will definitely look nice. Or darker chocolate color is pretty nice as well.

cmr · 5 March 2008, 05:09 PM

the screws in the lugs are holding your strap on and no, unbelievably it has no hacking function. you will have allot of fun collecting straps. it is quite addictive and can get costly!! lol

wear it well!

walds11 · 5 March 2008, 05:26 PM

Looks good Steve. If I jump back into the brand and go 44 mm, it may be the 176 or 177. If I go 40mm, it will definitely be the 48.

FBender · 5 March 2008, 05:33 PM

Very nice, glad it arrived safely

Solo118 · 5 March 2008, 06:08 PM

Welcome to the club!

Lol-x · 5 March 2008, 06:43 PM

Thanks guys,

It is a cool watch and I'm hoping that the Greg Stevens Militare will make it feel much more comfortable than the stiff brown leather OEM Panerai Strap that came with the watch

I'm going to be away for a couple of weeks so the Panerai will go into hibernation and when I get back the Greg Stevens strap should be waiting for me. Then I will be ready to party

Thani · 5 March 2008, 07:02 PM

hey steve congrats !! and welcome to the club !

you are going to love panerai's man, you get addicted to them more than rolex for some time !

wear it in good health

mailman · 5 March 2008, 09:29 PM

Congrats Steve

I like the Ti look. Enjoy it in good health

miner · 5 March 2008, 11:15 PM

Nice one Steve

Now the fun begins with straps..

watchlady · 6 March 2008, 01:43 AM

Very nice ! Congrats! I'm on my way to a shop to buy straps for my PAM. I also want a Greg Stevens strap. I sent an email to him but have yet to hear back. How did youplace your order?

Welshwatchman · 6 March 2008, 02:44 AM

Nice Pam, Steve. Exactly like my old 111, but more "posh".

The alligator strap you already have softens up beautifully with a bit of wear. It improves with age.

Teofilo · 6 March 2008, 05:31 AM

Congratulations on that first PAM....I know its been on your mind for a while !

dman · 6 March 2008, 11:34 AM

Atta boy Steve, good onya pal!!

One thing you will get used too is not worrying about the time. There are not even seconds markers, so it don't matter.

Get a BASE and that will really cure ya pal.

When I wore Rolex I checked weekly, now that I wear Panerai I don't even check yearly. Life is too short to worry about seconds bro.

Great choice, that is one of the hottest looking Panerai made bro.

DSJ · 6 March 2008, 01:17 PM

Congratulations, but I honestly can't figure out what their appeal is.

Andad · 6 March 2008, 05:55 PM

Very nice, I like the numbers in 'relief' and the lume should be excellent.

It is screaming for a black strap maybe with white or red stiching to take your eyes away from the SIZE of it.

jac67 · 6 March 2008, 07:55 PM

Well done buddy.

It looks awesome. I really like the 'sandwich' dial, gives it that 3-D effect.

Can't wait to see it in person.

John.

cmr · 7 March 2008, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jac67

Well done buddy.

It looks awesome. I really like the 'sandwich' dial, gives it that 3-D effect.

Can't wait to see it in person.

John.

i agree with you, the sandwich dial is very cool. my favorite's are the 177h and the 111h. even though the only difference is titanium and polished ss respectively they look very different to me. i like them both.

Lol-x · 7 March 2008, 08:44 PM

Greg Stevens does respond to e-mails, it just takes a couple of days sometimes for him to respond.
I will post a photo when I get mine. Daayyymmnn there are so many cool looking straps for sale.

vman · 8 March 2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Greg Stevens does respond to e-mails, it just takes a couple of days sometimes for him to respond.
I will post a photo when I get mine. Daayyymmnn there are so many cool looking straps for sale.

Yep. He has some great stuff and I am looking to purchase a bunch of leather items from him. It would be awesome to have a nice wallet, a passport holder and a band made from the same piece of leather :)

vman · 8 March 2008, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSJ

Congratulations, but I honestly can't figure out what their appeal is.

Looks great. Feels solid. Reasonably priced and rare. I have been wearing my watch for several weeks and not a single person said "Wow, is this a REAL Panerai." I hope they remain a small scale company that does not exceed 100,000 units per year.

etp095 · 8 March 2008, 09:32 AM

nice watch,congrats.

Lol-x · 8 March 2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dman

One thing you will get used too is not worrying about the time. There are not even seconds markers, so it don't matter.

.....

When I wore Rolex I checked weekly, now that I wear Panerai I don't even check yearly. Life is too short to worry about seconds bro.

Great choice, that is one of the hottest looking Panerai made bro.

Thanks Daren, I think you are right one can obsess too much (a little obsession is good

) and so I will just enjoy the watch.

I don't know about those in house Panerai straps, it seems they are darn stiff leather. There seems to be so much more to be offered from aftermarket straps, in fact that is a huge part, so it seems, of what makes the watch so much fun, versatile and enjoyable.

I don't say that I am going to be buying straps in any kind of quantity, but it does allow for a lot more personalisation or individual tailoring of the watch to the personal preferences of the owner.

It seems that the straps can really change the character of the watch enormously. At the same time, the Panerai, is essentially a tool watch and its size and presentation really makes a statement.

I'm now starting to understand why Panerai has such a strong community of enthusiasm.

watchlady · 8 March 2008, 12:01 PM

Straps are a really fun part of Panerai ownership. With a Rolex I think there is a strong connection with watch and strap and I wouldn't feel comfortable changing straps on a Rolex.

Greg Stevens got back to me and I ordered my Crazy Horse.
What straps are you waiting for?

Lol-x · 8 March 2008, 12:40 PM

Lisa I am going for the militare with black stitching. I'm pretty keen on this with my titanium case Panerai.

watchlady · 8 March 2008, 01:33 PM

I can't wait to see that with your titanium 177!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Lisa I am going for the militare with black stitching. I'm pretty keen on this with my titanium case Panerai.

5 March 2008, 02:17 PM	#2
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,240	Looks good. I see it is the new series with the tiny roller in the cam on the crown guard. I assume this also has the quick change system, with the pins, for strap changes? __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

5 March 2008, 02:21 PM	#3
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,240	Since you have a brown croc, I think a black leather, white stich would be a great second strap. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

5 March 2008, 03:12 PM	#4
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,904	I'm going for a Militare black stitching strap by Greg Stevens. The strap only appears to have screws, there is no other visible quick release device for the strap change. Again I'm not sure if this is what I am supposed to be looking at. Black with white stitch would definitely be cool, but I am trying to offset the darker colour of the titanium case with a lighter coloured tan. I really can't wait until I get the Militare with black stitching. The watch is a 'j' series and was sold in July 2007, so it still has over 1 year warranty __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

5 March 2008, 03:54 PM	#5
rpryan55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dick Location: USA Watch: SubND,DD,SSDaytona Posts: 2,257	I have a Panerai Luminor Marina, as well, a 40mm Pam 48, and it has a hacking movement simply by pulling out the crown all the way - why do you think the 40 and 44 mms mechanicals are that different? I'd be interested to know, if anyone has the answer. __________________ “The only reason for time ....................... is so that everything doesn't happen at once." Albert Einstein

5 March 2008, 04:00 PM	#6
oyster21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 2 continents Posts: 198	Congrat Steve! wear in good health. Black leather strap will definitely look nice. Or darker chocolate color is pretty nice as well. __________________ ------------------------- several watches...

5 March 2008, 02:02 PM	#1
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,904	I spent a couple of months trying to find a PAM00177. Several deals where going to happen then fell through for one reason or another. Then the supply of 177s seemed to dry up. Then 2 weeks ago I came across an auction in Japan. Anyway after some discussions I got my first Panerai. I'm quite happy about the watch and here are a few photos: Here is a comparison with a 41mm Seamaster GMT It seems to be about the limits of size for my wrist. The watch although 44mm is very comfortable it being made of titanium. The lack of a hacking movement is a little disappointing and I can't seem to put backward pressure on the crown to hold the second hand to otherwise cause the second hand to stop moving. As a result it is not possible (so it seems) to have the exact to the second time set. I do think it will be much nicer on a good leather strap. The black hands look great, the display back is really cool and the manual wind is something that already I'm surprised I find quite enjoyable. I don't understand having a COSC rating but not being able to set the second hand Please tell me if I'm missing something. Overall, I do think this is a very interesting watch that will wear well on the weekends. It does have quite a tool like ruggedness that I really appreciate.

5 March 2008, 05:09 PM	#7
cmr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: marcus Location: us, oklahoma Posts: 1,646	the screws in the lugs are holding your strap on and no, unbelievably it has no hacking function. you will have allot of fun collecting straps. it is quite addictive and can get costly!! lol wear it well! __________________ cmr OA-Black dial SS Daytona, V-White dial SS Daytona, Z-GMT2C Wife, Z-Platinum Yacht Master, Black ceramic White dial SS Daytona,

5 March 2008, 05:26 PM	#8
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,689	Looks good Steve. If I jump back into the brand and go 44 mm, it may be the 176 or 177. If I go 40mm, it will definitely be the 48. __________________ Adam

5 March 2008, 05:33 PM	#9
FBender Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: Perth Australia Watch: LV Posts: 201	Very nice, glad it arrived safely

5 March 2008, 06:08 PM	#10
Solo118 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 6,190	Welcome to the club!

5 March 2008, 06:43 PM	#11
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,904	Thanks guys, It is a cool watch and I'm hoping that the Greg Stevens Militare will make it feel much more comfortable than the stiff brown leather OEM Panerai Strap that came with the watch I'm going to be away for a couple of weeks so the Panerai will go into hibernation and when I get back the Greg Stevens strap should be waiting for me. Then I will be ready to party __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

5 March 2008, 07:02 PM	#12
Thani Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Thani Location: Dubai UAE Watch: Milgauss 116400 GV Posts: 2,082	hey steve congrats !! and welcome to the club ! you are going to love panerai's man, you get addicted to them more than rolex for some time ! wear it in good health

5 March 2008, 09:29 PM	#13
mailman TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: BLNR Posts: 35,621	Congrats Steve I like the Ti look. Enjoy it in good health __________________ JJ

5 March 2008, 11:15 PM	#14
miner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,294	Nice one Steve Now the fun begins with straps..

6 March 2008, 01:43 AM	#15
watchlady "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: the other Lisa Location: Metro New York Watch: SS/RG Datejust Posts: 1,014	Very nice ! Congrats! I'm on my way to a shop to buy straps for my PAM. I also want a Greg Stevens strap. I sent an email to him but have yet to hear back. How did youplace your order? __________________ Oyster Date 15200 : DJ Mid TT RG 178241: DJ SS 116234 Sub ND 14060M : PLATTY YM 16622 : Milgauss 116400 White

6 March 2008, 02:44 AM	#16
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Nice Pam, Steve. Exactly like my old 111, but more "posh". The alligator strap you already have softens up beautifully with a bit of wear. It improves with age.

6 March 2008, 05:31 AM	#17
Teofilo Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: East Anglia Watch: 14060M,16710 PEPSI Posts: 923	Congratulations on that first PAM....I know its been on your mind for a while !

6 March 2008, 11:34 AM	#18
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Atta boy Steve, good onya pal!! One thing you will get used too is not worrying about the time. There are not even seconds markers, so it don't matter. Get a BASE and that will really cure ya pal. When I wore Rolex I checked weekly, now that I wear Panerai I don't even check yearly. Life is too short to worry about seconds bro. Great choice, that is one of the hottest looking Panerai made bro. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

6 March 2008, 01:17 PM	#19
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Congratulations, but I honestly can't figure out what their appeal is. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

6 March 2008, 05:55 PM	#20
Andad 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,990	Very nice, I like the numbers in 'relief' and the lume should be excellent. It is screaming for a black strap maybe with white or red stiching to take your eyes away from the SIZE of it. __________________ E

6 March 2008, 07:55 PM	#21
jac67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Me Posts: 1,950	Well done buddy. It looks awesome. I really like the 'sandwich' dial, gives it that 3-D effect. Can't wait to see it in person. John.

7 March 2008, 08:44 PM	#23
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,904	Greg Stevens does respond to e-mails, it just takes a couple of days sometimes for him to respond. I will post a photo when I get mine. Daayyymmnn there are so many cool looking straps for sale. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

8 March 2008, 09:32 AM	#26
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,027	nice watch,congrats. __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

8 March 2008, 12:01 PM	#28
watchlady "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: the other Lisa Location: Metro New York Watch: SS/RG Datejust Posts: 1,014	Straps are a really fun part of Panerai ownership. With a Rolex I think there is a strong connection with watch and strap and I wouldn't feel comfortable changing straps on a Rolex. Greg Stevens got back to me and I ordered my Crazy Horse. What straps are you waiting for? __________________ Oyster Date 15200 : DJ Mid TT RG 178241: DJ SS 116234 Sub ND 14060M : PLATTY YM 16622 : Milgauss 116400 White

8 March 2008, 12:40 PM	#29
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,904	Lisa I am going for the militare with black stitching. I'm pretty keen on this with my titanium case Panerai. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

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