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Old 9 April 2008, 04:03 AM   #1
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hard to believe rolex would do a one of a kind in two tone, and not gold/platinum...
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Old 9 April 2008, 06:55 AM   #3
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This presentation piece has been given to a high-ranking military Admiral by the Sultan prince (brother of the King) acting as minister of defense of Saudi Arabia. The watch is inscribed with "Naval forces" on the dial.
Hard to believe but true !
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Old 9 April 2008, 04:10 PM   #5
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hard to believe rolex would do a one of a kind in two tone, and not gold/platinum...
Interesting previous thread by PADI56:

In 1970, Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued.Many middle east sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there is a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers. They came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, turongraphs, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars etc to these people money was know object.

Unfortunately due to the rarity and the huge demand of these watches from collectors and investors, many fake or doctored dials have appeared in the market place.The only true way to check if you have a genuine Oman Rolex is a movement and serial check with Rolex.A dial insignia on the dial without provenance is completely useless,to a serious collector.Unless he has the correct case serial, movement etc matching to a Oman watch or any other middle east sultan, or kings coat of arms, in the Rolex data base.What the emblem of Oman shows is a Gambia (Arabian dagger with sheath) in front of two crossed curved swords, covered with an arms-belt.

Now if that watch on the bay was a genuine Rolex dialled Sultan watch you could more or less ask your price,talking in telephone numbers.And now as rare as rocking horse s--t.And would not expect a genuine one on the bay we would be talking big auction house territory like Christies.


The serial number of this watch with Royal Saudi Arabia armories and "Naval forces" indicates a manufacture date of 1979.
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Old 9 April 2008, 04:19 PM   #6
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Old 17 April 2008, 07:17 AM   #7
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In fact, the estimated price range of this watch is at least of 200 to 300 k$... and even higher (big money due to extreme rarity).
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Old 17 April 2008, 07:29 AM   #8
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A Rolex collector and seller in New-York offered 240 k$ for it almost three years ago. The owner (Admiral) did not wanted to sell it because the watch was personally presented to him by Crown Prince Sultan.
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This new gentleman on the forum posted pictures the other day that seem to bear fruit to the validity of these watches. He may even have the genuine McCoy in a few varieties. Look at the link and subsequent pictures and tell me what you think: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=37710

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A Rolex collector and seller in New-York offered 240 k$ for it almost three years ago. The owner (Admiral) did not wanted to sell it because the watch was personally presented to him by Crown Prince Sultan.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE................ I HAVE THE SIMILAR WATCH DIAL WITH INSCRIPTION VERBATIM IN OYSTER DATE......... IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE COLLECTOR IN NEW YORK.......GIVE ME 100K AND KEEP THE REST.
AT THIS RATE MY COLLECTION IS WORTH $$$$$$$ 3 MILLION!



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hey buddy.......... it's notional wealth ........ as the old adage goes never count your chicks before they hatch!




pardon the typo....... my diction is preety bad
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I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE................ I HAVE THE SIMILAR WATCH DIAL WITH INSCRIPTION VERBATIM IN OYSTER DATE......... IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE COLLECTOR IN NEW YORK.......GIVE ME 100K AND KEEP THE REST.
AT THIS RATE MY COLLECTION IS WORTH $$$$$$$ 3 MILLION!
you are gonna start a manhunt in new york my friend....
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you are gonna start a manhunt in new york my friend....

IT'S THE OTHER WAY ROUND.......... I SWEAR.........ALL MY LIFE I HAVE BEEN

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Old 18 April 2008, 02:26 AM   #15
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I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE................ I HAVE THE SIMILAR WATCH DIAL WITH INSCRIPTION VERBATIM IN OYSTER DATE......... IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE COLLECTOR IN NEW YORK.......GIVE ME 100K AND KEEP THE REST.
AT THIS RATE MY COLLECTION IS WORTH $$$$$$$ 3 MILLION!



Hi bhupesh,

Thanks for the follow up. Please, by curiosity, did you find your collection of Rolex Oyster watches (with VERBATIM marked dials) inside your purchased packs of CD or DVD ?
Were they actually manufactured in Switzerland or India ?
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I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE................ I HAVE THE SIMILAR WATCH DIAL WITH INSCRIPTION VERBATIM IN OYSTER DATE......... IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE COLLECTOR IN NEW YORK.......GIVE ME 100K AND KEEP THE REST.
AT THIS RATE MY COLLECTION IS WORTH $$$$$$$ 3 MILLION!



To support this:

VERBATIM outsources Double Layer DVD production to India

An industry insider has informed me that Verbatim has started to outsource their Double Layer DVD production to Moser Baer India (MBI). And while a relationship between Verbatim and MBI is nothing new, it is new that Verbatim has decided to finally start outsourcing their difficult-to-manufacturer DVD double layer discs. When double layer recordable discs were first released, there were rumors that indicated Verbatim ran into quality issues when attempting to outsource the production of their premium optical disc product.


The first shipments are expected to leave MBI around the end of January, so depending on your market, you might start to see “Made In India” Verbatim double layer discs near the end of February or beyond. Verbatim will continue to produce double layer discs at its’ premiere production facility in Singapore for now and consumers should expect to see a mixed double layer product on shelf, some from India and some from Singapore.

The good news for consumers is that the retail pricing of Verbatim double layer discs should decrease once the newly sourced product hits the market. As the price of good quality double layer media continues to drop, the format should grow more and more popular with consumers. Low priced double layer media could mean more trouble for the expensive blue laser disc formats HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc.
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Hi bhupesh,

Thanks for the follow up. Please, by curiosity, did you find your collection of Rolex Oyster watches (with VERBATIM marked dials) inside your purchased packs of CD or DVD ?
Were they actually manufactured in Switzerland or India ?
VERBATIM IS ENGLISH TO YOU BUT 4 ME IT'S LATIN......RESPONDEZ SIL VOUZ PLAIT ?

TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION...........ANY DAY!



HAVE A DRINK IT'S ON ME.........
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Hi bhupesh,

Thanks for the follow up. Please, by curiosity, did you find your collection of Rolex Oyster watches (with VERBATIM marked dials) inside your purchased packs of CD or DVD ?
Were they actually manufactured in Switzerland or India ?
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To support this:

VERBATIM outsources Double Layer DVD production to India

An industry insider has informed me that Verbatim has started to outsource their Double Layer DVD production to Moser Baer India (MBI). And while a relationship between Verbatim and MBI is nothing new, it is new that Verbatim has decided to finally start outsourcing their difficult-to-manufacturer DVD double layer discs. When double layer recordable discs were first released, there were rumors that indicated Verbatim ran into quality issues when attempting to outsource the production of their premium optical disc product.


The first shipments are expected to leave MBI around the end of January, so depending on your market, you might start to see “Made In India” Verbatim double layer discs near the end of February or beyond. Verbatim will continue to produce double layer discs at its’ premiere production facility in Singapore for now and consumers should expect to see a mixed double layer product on shelf, some from India and some from Singapore.

The good news for consumers is that the retail pricing of Verbatim double layer discs should decrease once the newly sourced product hits the market. As the price of good quality double layer media continues to drop, the format should grow more and more popular with consumers. Low priced double layer media could mean more trouble for the expensive blue laser disc formats HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc.
FABOULOUS STORY ........................ BUT JUST NOW ANTIQUORUM HAS SOLD THREE TO FOUR ARABIC LOGO WATCHES RANGING FROM U.S.$ 4000 TO 5000 VERBATIM....... FABRIQUE SUISSE!
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To support this:

VERBATIM outsources Double Layer DVD production to India

An industry insider has informed me that Verbatim has started to outsource their Double Layer DVD production to Moser Baer India (MBI). And while a relationship between Verbatim and MBI is nothing new, it is new that Verbatim has decided to finally start outsourcing their difficult-to-manufacturer DVD double layer discs. When double layer recordable discs were first released, there were rumors that indicated Verbatim ran into quality issues when attempting to outsource the production of their premium optical disc product.


The first shipments are expected to leave MBI around the end of January, so depending on your market, you might start to see “Made In India” Verbatim double layer discs near the end of February or beyond. Verbatim will continue to produce double layer discs at its’ premiere production facility in Singapore for now and consumers should expect to see a mixed double layer product on shelf, some from India and some from Singapore.

The good news for consumers is that the retail pricing of Verbatim double layer discs should decrease once the newly sourced product hits the market. As the price of good quality double layer media continues to drop, the format should grow more and more popular with consumers. Low priced double layer media could mean more trouble for the expensive blue laser disc formats HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc.

WELL THE CONTROL NUMBER ON MINE CD/DVD VERBATIM DIAL AT THE BACK

IS 121 12689 WHICH WOULD CONFIRM TO BOTH ROLEX AS WELL AS MOSER

BAER PRODUCTION DATES OF 1978 OR 1979..........I'M REDUCING THE PRICE DUE TO RARITY........ NOW PAY ME 50K AND WITH THE REST TRY OUT-SOURCING!
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Err, Bhupesh.....one request. Can we keep those capital letters down to lower case please? Capitals tantamount to shouting.....and I'm sure you don't mean to shout, uh?

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hey jj,

that's what happens when you live life KING SIZE

i'm an old world man who's not much computer savvy

how do you upload images from your c or d drive for all the sherlock holmes

of the world to sniff and investigate.........to it's logical conclusion. i want to

show you a very unique rolex made for indian royalty in 1930's........

guaranteed one piece in the world!

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Old 18 April 2008, 05:15 AM   #22
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Hi bhupesh,

Please would you like to trade your VERBATIM for my nice Timex watch ?

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Please would you like to trade your VERBATIM for my nice Timex watch ?




hey buddy,

choosers can't be beggars............ when is your birthday

let's kiss and make up!

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this unique rolex ladies 18k has beetles as watch lugs..........made for indian royalty in 1930's a definite candidate for rolex museum....... i'll try and improve on pictures later on!
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the verbatim collection !







as the cock said to the hen showing her AN OSTRICH EGG

i'm not disparaging or complaining but just drawing your attention to what is being done else where in the world

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Icon4 Nice replica dials. Thanks.

Hi bhupesh,

Nice collection of custom-made replica dials .... do you know if they were produced in Hong Kong, Korea, or India ? Unfortunately for the owners, no proof of any authenticity on them as being actually produced by the Rolex factory on special orders ; indeed, these dials cannot be associated with any of the (vintage) Rolex watches that would be documented in Rolex records by their serial numbers (serial numbers of Rolex watches associated with vintage Rolex, custom-made, dials... ). For example, compare your dial (see bottom right dial) -which pattern is the one offered to SAS british soldiers by Oman Sultan- to the original one produced by Rolex. These are clearly not the same.... Don't worry , the replica dials remain nice conversation pieces . Thanks for sharing.
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This one is great (time is however a bit difficult to see) !
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Hi bhupesh,

Nice collection of custom-made replica dials .... do you know if they were produced in Hong Kong, Korea, or India ? Unfortunately for the owners, no proof of any authenticity on them as being actually produced by the Rolex factory on special orders ; indeed, these dials cannot be associated with any of the (vintage) Rolex watches that would be documented in Rolex records by their serial numbers (serial numbers of Rolex watches associated with vintage Rolex, custom-made, dials... ). For example, compare your dial (see bottom right dial) -which pattern is the one offered to SAS british soldiers by Oman Sultan- to the original one produced by Rolex. These are clearly not the same.... Don't worry , the replica dials remain nice conversation pieces . Thanks for sharing.
well mr. know-all rolex historian nice try
i have had them for last 7 years and picked them up when travelling in oman,dubai ,singapore and jakarta and bangkok.
those days these had no market and people were repainting them in case you go to bangkok .......... go to world trade center and look for papaya watches and ask for mr. ho......... that guy alone would have repainted or removed these logos atleast 1000 pcs. in three years!
i only paid 120 u.s. each back then........so in case you don't know anything don't just shoot from your mouth,i can see how much your exposure is
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