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cholo1030 · 5 May 2016, 08:28 AM

Hi TRF,
I am blessed to have an opportunity to acquire another piece. I am on the fence between acquiring the 2016 IWC Big Pilot (5009 with the number 9) or PAM 233 (am/pm). Here are my current humble collection to give you an idea of what I currently have: Black face SS Daytona, Yachtmaster, SubC, PAM 425 and PAM 557. I love both of them equally and acquiring both is not an option. Thanks TRF for your invaluable inputs.

nick c · 5 May 2016, 08:38 AM

The Iwc pilot is very nice but between this two I will go 233 you have 2 Pams 47mm so 233 at 44mm is amazing piece good luck

JNRSM3 · 5 May 2016, 09:27 AM

Since you have 3 rolexes and a couple of PAMs already, I'd suggest another watch brand and an IWC BP is the perfect choice. Admittedly, I'm biased. I have a BP and simply love it. I believe the MSRP on the new model is significantly cheaper, so even more reason to pick one up since it's the same movement and case with an updated face. :)

Urosfan · 5 May 2016, 09:30 AM

Both awesome pieces but the 233, but you are asking on a panerai sub forum

Changstaz · 5 May 2016, 10:14 AM

When I was looking at the IWC BP, I was also shown a PAM233... and I bought the 233...

Although, I would still look into a big pilot in the future! Just at that moment in time, that 233 was impossible to resist.

Cru Jones · 5 May 2016, 12:57 PM

Tough one due to your collection. In a vacuum and can only be one, the 233 for sure, but given what you have, if the BP fits you well, I probably would get that one since the 233 does not appear to be a "must have" for you. Good luck with the choice!

DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 5 May 2016, 05:50 PM

Here's the answer ...

Psmith · 7 May 2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Tough one due to your collection. In a vacuum and can only be one, the 233 for sure, but given what you have, if the BP fits you well, I probably would get that one since the 233 does not appear to be a "must have" for you. Good luck with the choice!

^ This

@OP - good luck and let us know what you decide

Panerai Freak · 8 May 2016, 06:32 AM

I own both a 233 and a Big Pilot (500902).

If I had to pick one, it'd be the 233. Hands down.

kilyung · 8 May 2016, 07:48 AM

Having owned both, I'd get the 233 again.

jakerusty · 8 May 2016, 12:27 PM

233 is simply a beautiful watch.

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lapince · 10 May 2016, 07:57 AM

233 but I had the dot version which is nicer IMO than the AM/PM, if you can get one, especially they're much cheaper, go for it

simongpaez · 11 May 2016, 11:22 PM

I love these 2 pieces a must have in any collection.

dcoy · 15 May 2016, 11:57 PM

233 to start!

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dcoy · 16 May 2016, 12:22 AM

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doc.kool · 16 May 2016, 10:13 AM

I used to have both. I still have my 233. If my wrist didn't shrink so much, I would have kept the BP. They are both awesome and iconic

Sorry. That probably didn't help. Depends on your collection. The 233 is more of a daily wearer. Good luck

Matt C · 16 May 2016, 10:27 AM

I feel there would be room for either in any collection! But if I had to choose one, 233.

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cholo1030 · 17 May 2016, 10:53 AM

Thank you all for the invaluable feedback. After trying both side by side, I pulled the trigger on the new 2016 IWC Big Piot with the new dial (with 9 and original index position) and strap (non-croc). Pics to follow.

Trurolexer · 18 May 2016, 03:52 AM

Both great. But I will go for Big Pilot

jagwap · 4 July 2016, 09:35 AM

I had the same decision years ago, and took the 233.

Years later I couldn't stop looking at IWC, and just picked up the new ceramic pilot ceramic. I like the ceramic big pilot but it is still a bit big for every day.

Billythekid · 5 July 2016, 12:44 AM

The 233 is a classic pam imo you will enjoy it much more than the BP

daytonaTBR · 6 July 2016, 07:17 AM

I would go big pilot

Al1969 · 6 July 2016, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholo1030

Thank you all for the invaluable feedback. After trying both side by side, I pulled the trigger on the new 2016 IWC Big Piot with the new dial (with 9 and original index position) and strap (non-croc). Pics to follow.

He already did.

CLuxlover · 6 July 2016, 03:56 PM

pics please!

SMLbranding · 11 July 2016, 09:21 AM

Both are great but the 233 has more of an emotional feel (to me) than the BP. I had a 233 and regret ever selling it.

zion_rasta · 23 July 2016, 10:07 PM

Bravo! IWC is my new love. I have 6 Rolex and was looking at acquiring the new Daytona C, but it is easier to come up with $13k than to actually get the watch.

my Pilot Chrono 3777-09 is the perfect size at 43mm. Once I learned that the IWC PC used a highly modified 7750 ETA, I was sold.

I can't take this watch off! I went back to my GMT IIc yesterday and the watch felt tiny.

DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 24 July 2016, 05:27 PM

I bought my pre-loved 233 at a reasonable price.. And really happy with that. Compared to IWC it is much more beautiful IMO..

masyv6 · 27 July 2016, 01:43 AM

I'd go for the Big Pilot.

cholo1030 · 27 July 2016, 02:24 PM

Thank you all for your input. I decided to move forward with the new version '16 IWC BP.

travisb · 27 July 2016, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholo1030

Thank you all for your input. I decided to move forward with the new version '16 IWC BP.

Congratulations! I love the BP. Tried on the new version in Vegas recently and really fell for it. On my list for sure!

5 May 2016, 08:28 AM	#1
cholo1030 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Cholo Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Daytona YM 425 312 Posts: 36	IWC BP vs PAM 233 Hi TRF, I am blessed to have an opportunity to acquire another piece. I am on the fence between acquiring the 2016 IWC Big Pilot (5009 with the number 9) or PAM 233 (am/pm). Here are my current humble collection to give you an idea of what I currently have: Black face SS Daytona, Yachtmaster, SubC, PAM 425 and PAM 557. I love both of them equally and acquiring both is not an option. Thanks TRF for your invaluable inputs.

16 May 2016, 10:27 AM	#17
Matt C "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Maine Watch: Rolex 116660 Posts: 1,602	I feel there would be room for either in any collection! But if I had to choose one, 233. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex 116660 Ball EM2 Diver Casio G-Shock

23 July 2016, 10:07 PM	#26
zion_rasta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Planet Earth Watch: GMT II ceramic Posts: 1,592	IWC BP vs PAM 233 Bravo! IWC is my new love. I have 6 Rolex and was looking at acquiring the new Daytona C, but it is easier to come up with $13k than to actually get the watch. my Pilot Chrono 3777-09 is the perfect size at 43mm. Once I learned that the IWC PC used a highly modified 7750 ETA, I was sold. I can't take this watch off! I went back to my GMT IIc yesterday and the watch felt tiny. __________________ Sky Dweller WG 326139 GMT II 116710LN Submariner 1680 Sold - Daytona 116523; YM 116622; Datejust 16233

27 July 2016, 02:24 PM	#29
cholo1030 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Cholo Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Daytona YM 425 312 Posts: 36	Thank you all for your input. I decided to move forward with the new version '16 IWC BP. Attached Images

5 May 2016, 08:38 AM	#2
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,845	The Iwc pilot is very nice but between this two I will go 233 you have 2 Pams 47mm so 233 at 44mm is amazing piece good luck

5 May 2016, 09:27 AM	#3
JNRSM3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cerritos Posts: 18	Since you have 3 rolexes and a couple of PAMs already, I'd suggest another watch brand and an IWC BP is the perfect choice. Admittedly, I'm biased. I have a BP and simply love it. I believe the MSRP on the new model is significantly cheaper, so even more reason to pick one up since it's the same movement and case with an updated face. :)

5 May 2016, 09:30 AM	#4
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,540	Both awesome pieces but the 233, but you are asking on a panerai sub forum

5 May 2016, 10:14 AM	#5
Changstaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 23	When I was looking at the IWC BP, I was also shown a PAM233... and I bought the 233... Although, I would still look into a big pilot in the future! Just at that moment in time, that 233 was impossible to resist.

5 May 2016, 12:57 PM	#6
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 36,397	Tough one due to your collection. In a vacuum and can only be one, the 233 for sure, but given what you have, if the BP fits you well, I probably would get that one since the 233 does not appear to be a "must have" for you. Good luck with the choice!

5 May 2016, 05:50 PM	#7
DOUBLE 0 SE7EN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: KAAN Location: ISTANBUL Watch: Explorer-PAM233 Posts: 1,657	Here's the answer ...

8 May 2016, 06:32 AM	#9
Panerai Freak "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: US Posts: 42	I own both a 233 and a Big Pilot (500902). If I had to pick one, it'd be the 233. Hands down.

8 May 2016, 07:48 AM	#10
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,962	Having owned both, I'd get the 233 again.

8 May 2016, 12:27 PM	#11
jakerusty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Dallas Watch: 116619, 16570 Posts: 198	233 is simply a beautiful watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 May 2016, 07:57 AM	#12
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	233 but I had the dot version which is nicer IMO than the AM/PM, if you can get one, especially they're much cheaper, go for it

11 May 2016, 11:22 PM	#13
simongpaez "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Simon Location: Houston Watch: Some Posts: 1,109	I love these 2 pieces a must have in any collection.

15 May 2016, 11:57 PM	#14
dcoy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Seoul Posts: 21	233 to start! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

16 May 2016, 12:22 AM	#15
dcoy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Seoul Posts: 21	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

16 May 2016, 10:13 AM	#16
doc.kool "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 610	I used to have both. I still have my 233. If my wrist didn't shrink so much, I would have kept the BP. They are both awesome and iconic Sorry. That probably didn't help. Depends on your collection. The 233 is more of a daily wearer. Good luck

17 May 2016, 10:53 AM	#18
cholo1030 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Cholo Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Daytona YM 425 312 Posts: 36	Thank you all for the invaluable feedback. After trying both side by side, I pulled the trigger on the new 2016 IWC Big Piot with the new dial (with 9 and original index position) and strap (non-croc). Pics to follow.

18 May 2016, 03:52 AM	#19
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Both great. But I will go for Big Pilot

4 July 2016, 09:35 AM	#20
jagwap "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: China Watch: IWC IW389001 Posts: 762	I had the same decision years ago, and took the 233. Years later I couldn't stop looking at IWC, and just picked up the new ceramic pilot ceramic. I like the ceramic big pilot but it is still a bit big for every day.

5 July 2016, 12:44 AM	#21
Billythekid "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: India Posts: 324	The 233 is a classic pam imo you will enjoy it much more than the BP

6 July 2016, 07:17 AM	#22
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	I would go big pilot

6 July 2016, 03:56 PM	#24
CLuxlover "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Bay Area Posts: 86	pics please!

11 July 2016, 09:21 AM	#25
SMLbranding "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Scott Leslie Location: Vero Beach, FL Watch: Still looking Posts: 37	Both are great but the 233 has more of an emotional feel (to me) than the BP. I had a 233 and regret ever selling it.

24 July 2016, 05:27 PM	#27
DOUBLE 0 SE7EN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: KAAN Location: ISTANBUL Watch: Explorer-PAM233 Posts: 1,657	I bought my pre-loved 233 at a reasonable price.. And really happy with that. Compared to IWC it is much more beautiful IMO..

27 July 2016, 01:43 AM	#28
masyv6 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,828	I'd go for the Big Pilot.

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