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Old 28 March 2019, 03:26 PM   #1
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Rolex gold models have solid gold or brass dials?

Hi all,

I have been searching for the answer to this question and people seem to have different answers. Some say all dials are made of brass while some say that gold models have 18k solid gold dial plates. The RSC in Hong Kong is not very sure either.

Can anyone confirm?
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Old 28 March 2019, 03:55 PM   #2
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The dials are made of gold period. Either white gold or yellow or rg gold. Not that I have tested and popped it open. This from a very knowledgeable gentleman at an AD in Belgium. The dials are always gold. In the past might have been brass but now they are all gold as per my reckoning.
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Old 28 March 2019, 04:05 PM   #3
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If we're talking regular dials, always brass.
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Hi all,

I have been searching for the answer to this question and people seem to have different answers. Some say all dials are made of brass while some say that gold models have 18k solid gold dial plates. The RSC in Hong Kong is not very sure either.

Can anyone confirm?
On all solid precious metal watches the dial will be made of precious metal and hall marked.
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On all solid precious metal watches the dial will be made of precious metal and hall marked.
Is that inclusive of all gold Black Dial references like the GMT for instance?
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Old 28 March 2019, 05:42 PM   #6
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On all solid precious metal watches the dial will be made of precious metal and hall marked.
wow! that's kind of cool, I didnt know it. is that also true for like pp, ap?
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Old 28 March 2019, 06:07 PM   #7
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On all solid precious metal watches the dial will be made of precious metal and hall marked.
100% sure? A standard dial for a DD is the same as for a DJ dial, it feels unlikely Rolex would charge the same.
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If we're talking regular dials, always brass.
On the PM references too Bas?

I know the YM platinum dial was solid 950 pt but you’re saying that for, say, a YG Sub the dial is the same as for a TT Sub?

Maybe it’s easier to say which references have an all PM dial ?
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Here is a link from Michael Young's IG. Shows a 18K YG dial, what looks like a black dial for a Daytona (either TT or PM, that is hard to say). I believe they would use same dial for both.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvfutCPH...=15ijh05o2c96d
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On the PM references too Bas?



I know the YM platinum dial was solid 950 pt but you’re saying that for, say, a YG Sub the dial is the same as for a TT Sub?



Maybe it’s easier to say which references have an all PM dial ?
There are indeed exceptions like the platinum dial yachtmaster. But the intention of the whole dial was to show the sand blasted platinum.

In a regular painted dial they're not using any precious metals as material except for indexes, etc. The YG sub dial is indeed the same as the TT.
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There are indeed exceptions like the platinum dial yachtmaster. But the intention of the whole dial was to show the sand blasted platinum.

In a regular painted dial they're not using any precious metals as material except for indexes, etc. The YG sub dial is indeed the same as the TT.


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There examples. Jubilee diamond set dial, ice blue dial and TT sub dial. All brass plates. No gold.

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Old 28 March 2019, 07:01 PM   #14
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Two gold Daytona dials. The blue is an 18k plate the yellow is a brass plate.

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Old 28 March 2019, 07:04 PM   #15
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I cannot say for sure which ones are 18k or not in which PM model. But saying that all PM watches have a PM dial is just straight up false.

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I cannot say for sure which ones are 18k or not in which PM model. But saying that all PM watches have a PM dial is just straight up false.


Any idea about the 116655 RG YM? It seems to have a shimmering gold finish in the dial.
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Any idea about the 116655 RG YM? It seems to have a shimmering gold finish in the dial.
Standard price of 371.40chf, it is brass.
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Old 28 March 2019, 07:48 PM   #18
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James Dowling when he toured Rolex dial factory. Commented that any dial that is gem set is gold! Well Bass showed thats not true.
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Standard price of 371.40chf, it is brass.
Actually I don't know for sure. Since there seems to be no price difference in the two Daytona dials shown above, yet one of gold and one is brass. Both are 510chf in the system.

This is very inconsistent and un-Rolex
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There are indeed exceptions like the platinum dial yachtmaster. But the intention of the whole dial was to show the sand blasted platinum.

In a regular painted dial they're not using any precious metals as material except for indexes, etc. The YG sub dial is indeed the same as the TT.
Thank you for helpful information!
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Old 28 March 2019, 08:11 PM   #21
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Thank you all for so much useful info. How about the dial on a 116528 Paul Newman? Anyone has a back picture of that dial?

And are the dials of 16528 and 16520 porcelain made of real porcelain or is it just a name for the porcelain-like finishing?
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YG submariner, no gold dial.

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Old 28 March 2019, 10:00 PM   #24
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This picture does not show whether the solid gold models have dials made of solid gold right? It only shows that there are platinum, white gold and yellow gold dials but we do not know which models.

Some say that all gold models with six-digit ref numbers have solid gold dial plates. Is that true?
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Rolex gold models have solid gold or brass dials?

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This picture does not show whether the solid gold models have dials made of solid gold right? It only shows that there are platinum, white gold and yellow gold dials but we do not know which models.



Some say that all gold models with six-digit ref numbers have solid gold dial plates. Is that true?


No I do not believe so. Although I do not own the latest models. Day date crown collection dial were. Eg myriad as shown in above and diamond paved. Here are two solid gold dial versions I own myriad and diamond string decorated.

The first pic is not mine with it shows honeycomb, Pleiade and another myriad dial all solid gold





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Old 28 March 2019, 11:51 PM   #26
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I cannot say for sure which ones are 18k or not in which PM model. But saying that all PM watches have a PM dial is just straight up false.

Thanks Bas, interesting information - never really thought about the different metal variations on simlarly finished watch models [ie. two PM Daytonas with different metal dials).
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Old 29 March 2019, 12:53 AM   #27
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How about the 116528 Paul Newman dial? Anyone has a picture of the back of this dial?
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Old 29 March 2019, 12:57 AM   #28
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How about the 116528 Paul Newman dial? Anyone has a picture of the back  of this dial?
very legible. thanks
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Old 29 March 2019, 12:58 AM   #29
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Also Rolex states on Instagram that the green dial of the 116508 is solid gold. Any comments?
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Old 29 March 2019, 04:06 AM   #30
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Are you saying that champagne dials have gold dust in the paint?
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