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Dilinger · 3 July 2021, 02:03 AM

So the second watch dial swap was completed today....

The first initial shock, -the installed dial hands were wrong! and they had no lume, where the dial had lume marks.

I have seen this before in pre-owned watches and always wondered how could this happen. Well, maybe it has happened to others due to a mistake in parts.

Thankfully, they corrected the mistake and replaced the dial hands with the correct ones with lume.

The watch came out pretty amazing and i like how it changes color hue according to the light.
From black to dark grey to sunburst blue to green etc...
I am very happy and it has been transformed to a more everyday piece, than it was with the old diamond dial..

Enjoy.

garyk · 3 July 2021, 02:04 AM

Looks nice!

Rado63 · 3 July 2021, 02:22 AM

First of all the blue dial version of an 18238 was always a rare combination. The watch looks beautiful. That was a great selection since I know you were discussing black and white dials as a replacement to the diamond dial. Where you able to get an original Rolex dial and did RSC do all the work for you?

Jackie Daytona · 3 July 2021, 02:28 AM

Beautiful. By far one of my favorite DD combinations. In my opinion it doesn’t get much better than the blue and gold combo. Very nice and congrats on the completion of the dial swap.

Dilinger · 3 July 2021, 03:15 AM

Thank you guys !!!

@Rado63 Yes its an Original Rolex dial and RSC did all the work on the watch.
I did not know the blue was a rare combination.
There are actually 2 blue versions for this watch. The one i got (sunburst) and a darker blue (blue/black), which is flat - no sunburst.
I debated black in my mind also. In the beginning the Onyx Black and then the Black Stick dial, like the one i got, but in black. Did not know if the Black Stick Dial is Glossy or matte.

I hope i made the right choice. The blue dial ''has many faces''.

The black is more contrast.

miamiclay · 3 July 2021, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilinger

Yes its an Original Rolex dial and RSC did all the work on the watch.
I did not know the blue was a rare combination.
There are actually 2 blue versions for this watch. The one i got (sunburst) and a darker blue (blue/black), which is flat - no sunburst.

That is just beautiful, my heartiest congratulations!

Did RSC provide this lume dial/hands? I’m curious about what they provide for these DDs nowadays - Do you know what the lume is? Is it live/active?

Also FYI (and just in the interest of pedantry), there were several blue dials offered on 5-digit DDs - Mosaic/shantung, lapis lazuli, 2 or 3 shades of blue Stellas, vignette, a textured-matte “blue jean” dial, etc.

fskywalker · 3 July 2021, 04:37 AM

Congrats!

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Gerry62 · 3 July 2021, 05:24 AM

Awesome!

Dilinger · 3 July 2021, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamiclay

That is just beautiful, my heartiest congratulations!

Did RSC provide this lume dial/hands? I’m curious about what they provide for these DDs nowadays - Do you know what the lume is? Is it live/active?

Also FYI (and just in the interest of pedantry), there were several blue dials offered on 5-digit DDs - Mosaic/shantung, lapis lazuli, 2 or 3 shades of blue Stellas, vignette, a textured-matte “blue jean” dial, etc.

Hi yes everything from RSC.
Lume is superluminova. They put by mistake hands without lume and they replaced them once i explained to them the mistake.

I was talking about two versions of blue plain dials, excluding all other blue variations.

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ltmgeller · 3 July 2021, 07:22 AM

Looks good

Little machines · 3 July 2021, 09:02 AM

Very nice combo!!

Stan Cooper · 3 July 2021, 09:36 AM

Awesome! The blue dial is a big improvement IMHO.

BNA/LION · 3 July 2021, 09:45 AM

Blue dial looks fantastic!

Bowlduck · 3 July 2021, 10:32 AM

Wow!!! Great choice.

Dilinger · 3 July 2021, 03:29 PM

Thank you all!!
Anyone has a black stick dial to see?

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samson66 · 3 July 2021, 10:14 PM

That looks really good. Did you say the indices are lumed too? Hard to tell from pics. Love that blue

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madgpol · 3 July 2021, 10:18 PM

Great choice OP

1William · 3 July 2021, 10:45 PM

Looks great.

RadSS · 3 July 2021, 10:54 PM

Looks great. Just a question, if you service at Rolex, do they allow mods like that?

Dilinger · 4 July 2021, 02:20 PM

Yes, hands are lumed and yes they allow to do a dial swap as long as it was available for the watch reference you own. It’s not a mod , it’s a dial change.

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EricUSC · 4 July 2021, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilinger

Yes, hands are lumed and yes they allow to do a dial swap as long as it was available for the watch reference you own. It’s not a mod , it’s a dial change.

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So if RSC will do a dial swap, it makes no sense that the Turquoise dial Oyster Perpetual commands such a high premium on the grey market over a silver or black dial Oyster Perpetual. They all have the same reference number.

SearChart · 4 July 2021, 02:59 PM

Blue looks great!

Dilinger · 5 July 2021, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricUSC

So if RSC will do a dial swap, it makes no sense that the Turquoise dial Oyster Perpetual commands such a high premium on the grey market over a silver or black dial Oyster Perpetual. They all have the same reference number.

Well, there are some things to consider.

A. Some dials might not be available for old references.
B. Rolex has an exclusion policy for latest references -at least for now, or as long as they are considered ''latest'', and they won't swap or change a dial for you.
e.g Ceramic Daytona from Black to white.

Good thing is i got to keep the dials from both watches i changed and intent to sell them in the near future.

winst · 5 July 2021, 05:07 PM

Nice!

Cambo · 5 July 2021, 09:16 PM

Beautiful. Great dial!

Daveclock · 6 July 2021, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilinger

Well, there are some things to consider.

A. Some dials might not be available for old references.
B. Rolex has an exclusion policy for latest references -at least for now, or as long as they are considered ''latest'', and they won't swap or change a dial for you.
e.g Ceramic Daytona from Black to white.

Good thing is i got to keep the dials from both watches i changed and intent to sell them in the near future.

I seem to remember you could get a black or white swap dial FOC on daytona's back in the day, just a 1 time deal? does anyone else remember that? (UK)

SN13 · 6 July 2021, 11:15 PM

Dilinger,

I'm glad you got the dial and hands swapped. I hope the blue sunburst makes you happy.

Yes, there is a change in the hue dependent on lighting.

Sometimes it gets a Dark Blue-Grey like the underbelly of the leading edge of a September Cold Front.

I love my Blue 18038 and I'm glad you are enjoying the Blue Dial on your 18238... and yes, the blue dial is much more "everyday" than the Champagne with Diamonds.

I think you made the right choice, but I'm biased.

Dilinger · 15 July 2021, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SN13

Dilinger,

I'm glad you got the dial and hands swapped. I hope the blue sunburst makes you happy.

Yes, there is a change in the hue dependent on lighting.

Sometimes it gets a Dark Blue-Grey like the underbelly of the leading edge of a September Cold Front.

I love my Blue 18038 and I'm glad you are enjoying the Blue Dial on your 18238... and yes, the blue dial is much more "everyday" than the Champagne with Diamonds.

I think you made the right choice, but I'm biased.

SN13 Thank you so much for your help, during my search!
I was also considering the same dial - Black with Sticks- but i felt it would always be black...
The different faces of blue are amazing..

Panader · 15 July 2021, 09:57 PM

Lume is better than diamonds, nice move!

sp006 · 21 July 2021, 01:10 AM

RSC will definitely allow you to swap dials in current models.

I was quoted roughly $500 for dial and $200 for labor on a DJ41 dial swap. Also, they do not allow you to keep the original dial as they view the $500 price tag as a discounted amount because they are keeping the original dial.

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3 July 2021, 02:03 AM	#1
Dilinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: George Location: Europe Watch: 18238,116503,16520 Posts: 231	Second Dial Swap Completed So the second watch dial swap was completed today.... The first initial shock, -the installed dial hands were wrong! and they had no lume, where the dial had lume marks. I have seen this before in pre-owned watches and always wondered how could this happen. Well, maybe it has happened to others due to a mistake in parts. Thankfully, they corrected the mistake and replaced the dial hands with the correct ones with lume. The watch came out pretty amazing and i like how it changes color hue according to the light. From black to dark grey to sunburst blue to green etc... I am very happy and it has been transformed to a more everyday piece, than it was with the old diamond dial.. Enjoy. Attached Images __________________ The Difference between Fashion and Style is Quality.

3 July 2021, 02:04 AM	#2
garyk 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Gary Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 12,589	Looks nice! __________________

3 July 2021, 02:22 AM	#3
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	First of all the blue dial version of an 18238 was always a rare combination. The watch looks beautiful. That was a great selection since I know you were discussing black and white dials as a replacement to the diamond dial. Where you able to get an original Rolex dial and did RSC do all the work for you? __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

3 July 2021, 02:28 AM	#4
Jackie Daytona 2025 Rolex SubTT Bluesy Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: Brian Location: Nashville Watch: 16750 Posts: 7,411	Beautiful. By far one of my favorite DD combinations. In my opinion it doesn’t get much better than the blue and gold combo. Very nice and congrats on the completion of the dial swap. __________________ 16750 \| 6516(wife’s) \| 126334 \| SBGA413 \| SRPE33 \| 126610LV

3 July 2021, 03:15 AM	#5
Dilinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: George Location: Europe Watch: 18238,116503,16520 Posts: 231	Thank you guys !!! @Rado63 Yes its an Original Rolex dial and RSC did all the work on the watch. I did not know the blue was a rare combination. There are actually 2 blue versions for this watch. The one i got (sunburst) and a darker blue (blue/black), which is flat - no sunburst. I debated black in my mind also. In the beginning the Onyx Black and then the Black Stick dial, like the one i got, but in black. Did not know if the Black Stick Dial is Glossy or matte. I hope i made the right choice. The blue dial ''has many faces''. The black is more contrast. __________________ The Difference between Fashion and Style is Quality.

3 July 2021, 04:37 AM	#7
fskywalker 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,673	Congrats! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 Ω SM 168.022 / SM NTTD / SPDM FOIS / SM 300 165.024 Swatch MoonSW 1965 Metal Case Mod / MoonSW Saturn / Blancpain O Storms Zenith Flyback 02.0480.405 2FA security enabled

3 July 2021, 05:24 AM	#8
Gerry62 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italy EU Watch: Rolex Panerai Posts: 7,943	Awesome!

3 July 2021, 07:22 AM	#10
ltmgeller 2025 Rolex SubTT Bluesy Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 23,975	Looks good __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

3 July 2021, 09:02 AM	#11
Little machines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Joseph Location: USA Posts: 2,810	Very nice combo!!

3 July 2021, 09:36 AM	#12
Stan Cooper 2025 Rolex SubTT Bluesy Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Stan Cooper Location: Sonoma County, CA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 3,162	Awesome! The blue dial is a big improvement IMHO. __________________ ♛16710 GMT-Master II, ♛1915 Rolex WW1 Trench Watch, Zelos Thresher 500m GMT Meteorite, Zelos Swordfish 40 200m Ti Blood Moon Meteorite, Hamilton Pilot Chronograph, Ball Roadmaster Pilot GMT COSC Chronometer, Zelos Mako 300M Traveler GMT Meteorite, Seiko SSC813 quartz solar powered chronograph It's weird being the same age as old people. - Stan

3 July 2021, 09:45 AM	#13
BNA/LION 2025 Rolex SubTT Bluesy Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 26,455	Blue dial looks fantastic! __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ DaytonaC 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ M226627 42mm Titanium Yacht-Master ✦ 126000 OP Turquoise Blue 36mm NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

3 July 2021, 10:32 AM	#14
Bowlduck "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NH Watch: 16613 Posts: 232	Wow!!! Great choice.

3 July 2021, 03:29 PM	#15
Dilinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: George Location: Europe Watch: 18238,116503,16520 Posts: 231	Thank you all!! Anyone has a black stick dial to see? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ The Difference between Fashion and Style is Quality.

3 July 2021, 10:14 PM	#16
samson66 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: OCMD Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 14,737	That looks really good. Did you say the indices are lumed too? Hard to tell from pics. Love that blue Sent from my Galaxy S20 using Tapatalk

3 July 2021, 10:18 PM	#17
madgpol "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jason Location: UK Posts: 695	Great choice OP

3 July 2021, 10:45 PM	#18
1William 2025 Rolex SubTT Bluesy Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 51,506	Looks great.

3 July 2021, 10:54 PM	#19
RadSS 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 55	Looks great. Just a question, if you service at Rolex, do they allow mods like that?

4 July 2021, 02:20 PM	#20
Dilinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: George Location: Europe Watch: 18238,116503,16520 Posts: 231	Yes, hands are lumed and yes they allow to do a dial swap as long as it was available for the watch reference you own. It’s not a mod , it’s a dial change. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ The Difference between Fashion and Style is Quality.

5 July 2021, 05:07 PM	#24
winst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: UK Posts: 6,883	Nice!

5 July 2021, 09:16 PM	#25
Cambo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Cam Location: North of 49th Watch: Rolex/Grand Seiko Posts: 2,015	Beautiful. Great dial! __________________ 16618 126710BLRO 116500LN 228235 228239 SBGK002

6 July 2021, 11:15 PM	#27
SN13 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 1,124	Dilinger, I'm glad you got the dial and hands swapped. I hope the blue sunburst makes you happy. Yes, there is a change in the hue dependent on lighting. Sometimes it gets a Dark Blue-Grey like the underbelly of the leading edge of a September Cold Front. I love my Blue 18038 and I'm glad you are enjoying the Blue Dial on your 18238... and yes, the blue dial is much more "everyday" than the Champagne with Diamonds. I think you made the right choice, but I'm biased. __________________ IG@Construction_Time --- 1986 DD 18038 --- 1992 YM 16628 --- 2015 116600 SD4K --- SBDX001 MM300 --- 2009 Omega Ploprof White --- 2010 Omega LE LMPO

15 July 2021, 09:57 PM	#29
Panader "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 155	Lume is better than diamonds, nice move!

21 July 2021, 01:10 AM	#30
sp006 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: New York Posts: 699	RSC will definitely allow you to swap dials in current models. I was quoted roughly $500 for dial and $200 for labor on a DJ41 dial swap. Also, they do not allow you to keep the original dial as they view the $500 price tag as a discounted amount because they are keeping the original dial. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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