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ewdi · 4 September 2020, 10:08 PM

So got the call today, to pick it up for my father in law

After sizing it for him, noticed how much different it is from the old sub, it does wears small until you start feeling the clasp part, it is really bulky, all and all still a great solid piece

sub91 · 4 September 2020, 10:10 PM

Great pickup! Congratulations mate!

Xerxes77 · 4 September 2020, 10:15 PM

Congratulations!
I don’t know if I see right but from the pictures new one look more proportional ....

ewdi · 4 September 2020, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxes77

Congratulations!
I don’t know if I see right but from the pictures new one look more proportional ....

It is, they perfected it, I guess still not used to the bracelet width for me personally, but my in-laws seems to be okay with it.

Kawirider · 4 September 2020, 10:28 PM

Congrats. Are the center links on the new sub smaller? Not sure if it’s just the wider outer links but they look narrower to my eyes. Also can’t tell if they look shorter too

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sgwatchguy · 4 September 2020, 10:32 PM

They got the proportions right. Congrats!

JRell · 4 September 2020, 10:33 PM

So having both in your hands, if you hand the 114060 would you trade in for the new one? I am getting the bluesy when it comes in, but might trade my 114060 for the new one at some point. In pics they don’t seem that different and maybe it is better to hand the new bluesy and old sub.

nighthawk77 · 4 September 2020, 10:36 PM

Part of the appeal of the prev gen was the bracelet. I think it's comfortable, functional and looks elegant. Likewise with the bracelet on my Explorer...

I'm reserving full judgement until I see one in the flesh, but I think it's a shame the bracelet needed to increase in size.

Looking at the watches side by side, whilst the newer one looks to have a nice profile, it looks like a bigger watch than the incremental increases would suggest. I'm curious to hear how they wear comparatively?

JayHantz · 4 September 2020, 10:37 PM

Looks great! Thanks for the side by side - I am liking the proportions more and more!

Devildog · 4 September 2020, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewdi

So got the call today, to pick it up for my father in law

After sizing it for him, noticed how much different it is from the old sub, it does wears small until you start feeling the clasp part, it is really bulky, all and all still a great solid piece

That's a great comparison picture!

I'm seeing more and more pictures like this where the new one actually looks slightly smaller than the old.

padi56 · 4 September 2020, 10:45 PM

Well to my now quite old eyes you got to look really really hard to notice any difference as the difference is so minuscule.

supernova · 4 September 2020, 10:45 PM

Nice pick up!

The case shot seems like they are similar or 41mm slightly bigger but the clasp shot does show the significant increase!

BTW, if you take pic right handed, the watch on the right will always look bigger due to the angle.

Frank McKay · 4 September 2020, 10:57 PM

I could hardly tell which is which in the second picture?

psd1966 · 4 September 2020, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Well to my now quite old eyes you got to look really really hard to notice any difference as the difference is so minuscule.

Totally agree with this although the lug changes are noticeable and very welcome

Odie-r · 4 September 2020, 10:59 PM

Lucky day! Congrats.

Maiden · 4 September 2020, 11:03 PM

Which one is the new one? Right or left?

psd1966 · 4 September 2020, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Maiden

Which one is the new one? Right or left?

Great question.... the pic of the faces shows the new watch on the left & if my eyes don’t deceive me the new bracelet is on the right... the picture does not really show a big difference in the clasps!

ronricks · 4 September 2020, 11:12 PM

Is it just me or are the hour markers slightly smaller on the new sub?

m0butt · 4 September 2020, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Well to my now quite old eyes you got to look really really hard to notice any difference as the difference is so minuscule.

For once I find myself agreeing with padi.

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TimeAZ · 4 September 2020, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

I could hardly tell which is which in the second picture?

Top image: New one is on the right (obvious due to fatter clasp)
Bottom image: Old one is on the right (obvious due to fatter lugs)

NYG1121 · 4 September 2020, 11:15 PM

I think the tapering on the old one is more refined. I always like a good tapered bracelet and wish it was more tapered on the day date

-dustin · 4 September 2020, 11:16 PM

maybe it's because i've spent the better part of the past 16yrs looking at 2, 4, and 5mm bits, but the lug difference seems really obvious to me. i wouldn't kick either one out of bed. i can see how the new one might feel smaller. and now i want all 3.

props to the in-laws for good taste.

Lakesclub · 4 September 2020, 11:19 PM

They both look great! The differences on the new sub are indescribable to 99.9% of the population!

Plebs · 4 September 2020, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewdi

So got the call today, to pick it up for my father in law

After sizing it for him, noticed how much different it is from the old sub, it does wears small until you start feeling the clasp part, it is really bulky, all and all still a great solid piece

Nice side by side.. Finally better proportions on the new models, nice pickup and congrats!

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SN13 · 4 September 2020, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ronricks

Is it just me or are the hour markers slightly smaller on the new sub?

It was in all the descriptions that I read. Slightly smaller markers.

Slightly longer Minute and Second hands.

21mm Lug spacing.

Slimmer lug look.

41mm Case.

more delicate crown guards.

stylinleems · 4 September 2020, 11:28 PM

Congrats and nice side by side pictures for comparison!

S’portEye · 4 September 2020, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeAZ

Top image: New one is on the right (obvious due to fatter clasp)
Bottom image: Old one is on the right (obvious due to fatter lugs)

Yeah, to me it is obvious. I think I like the new one better for the thinner lugs. The wider bracelet doesn’t bother me.

I’m looking forward to seeing it in person.

TswaneNguni · 4 September 2020, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Maiden

Which one is the new one? Right or left?

Valid point

Frank McKay · 4 September 2020, 11:31 PM

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MattyL147 · 4 September 2020, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank McKay

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This makes it really obvious IMO.

4 September 2020, 10:08 PM	#1
ewdi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 163	Picked up the sub no date 2020 - Bracelet is bulky So got the call today, to pick it up for my father in law After sizing it for him, noticed how much different it is from the old sub, it does wears small until you start feeling the clasp part, it is really bulky, all and all still a great solid piece Attached Images __________________ - Royal Oak 15400 (Black Dial) - Daytona OF 116518LN - SS GMT IIc 126710 BLRO - Royal Oak Offshore 26480ti - Tudor Blackbay Smiley - Daytona 116500LN

4 September 2020, 10:32 PM	#6
sgwatchguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: KP Jimmy Location: Singapore Watch: R/AP/FPJ/Hermès/et Posts: 6,597	They got the proportions right. Congrats! __________________

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padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,711	Well to my now quite old eyes you got to look really really hard to notice any difference as the difference is so minuscule. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

4 September 2020, 10:59 PM	#15
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4 September 2020, 11:03 PM	#16
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4 September 2020, 10:10 PM	#2
sub91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Sydney Watch: N/A Posts: 17	Great pickup! Congratulations mate!

4 September 2020, 10:15 PM	#3
Xerxes77 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Home! Posts: 3,307	Congratulations! I don’t know if I see right but from the pictures new one look more proportional ....

4 September 2020, 10:28 PM	#5
Kawirider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: NY Posts: 501	Congrats. Are the center links on the new sub smaller? Not sure if it’s just the wider outer links but they look narrower to my eyes. Also can’t tell if they look shorter too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4 September 2020, 10:33 PM	#7
JRell 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126710BLNR Jubilee Posts: 8,222	So having both in your hands, if you hand the 114060 would you trade in for the new one? I am getting the bluesy when it comes in, but might trade my 114060 for the new one at some point. In pics they don’t seem that different and maybe it is better to hand the new bluesy and old sub.

4 September 2020, 10:36 PM	#8
nighthawk77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: UK Posts: 1,250	Part of the appeal of the prev gen was the bracelet. I think it's comfortable, functional and looks elegant. Likewise with the bracelet on my Explorer... I'm reserving full judgement until I see one in the flesh, but I think it's a shame the bracelet needed to increase in size. Looking at the watches side by side, whilst the newer one looks to have a nice profile, it looks like a bigger watch than the incremental increases would suggest. I'm curious to hear how they wear comparatively?

4 September 2020, 10:37 PM	#9
JayHantz 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Texas Watch: @Escapementt Posts: 9,846	Looks great! Thanks for the side by side - I am liking the proportions more and more!

4 September 2020, 10:45 PM	#12
supernova "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Europe/Asia Watch: AP/Rolex Posts: 1,393	Nice pick up! The case shot seems like they are similar or 41mm slightly bigger but the clasp shot does show the significant increase! BTW, if you take pic right handed, the watch on the right will always look bigger due to the angle.

4 September 2020, 10:57 PM	#13
Frank McKay "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,650	I could hardly tell which is which in the second picture?

4 September 2020, 11:12 PM	#18
ronricks 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: ATL Watch: 126610LV Posts: 2,836	Is it just me or are the hour markers slightly smaller on the new sub?

4 September 2020, 11:15 PM	#21
NYG1121 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NE Posts: 2,943	I think the tapering on the old one is more refined. I always like a good tapered bracelet and wish it was more tapered on the day date

4 September 2020, 11:16 PM	#22
-dustin 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Dustin Location: A, TX Posts: 1,738	maybe it's because i've spent the better part of the past 16yrs looking at 2, 4, and 5mm bits, but the lug difference seems really obvious to me. i wouldn't kick either one out of bed. i can see how the new one might feel smaller. and now i want all 3. props to the in-laws for good taste.

4 September 2020, 11:19 PM	#23
Lakesclub "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Land of the Free Posts: 29	They both look great! The differences on the new sub are indescribable to 99.9% of the population!

4 September 2020, 11:28 PM	#26
stylinleems 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: 116500 Posts: 3,244	Congrats and nice side by side pictures for comparison! __________________ Rolex: 126334 (BL) \| 116610LN \| 126710BLNR \| 116500LN (WT) \| 116500LN (BK) \| 126710BLRO \| 116610LV

4 September 2020, 11:31 PM	#29
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