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Daveyboyz · 29 July 2016, 01:45 AM

Hi, first post here after I took a punt on this old Rolex which was misdescribed as a 1940's but I believe it to be a 1924/25 model since the hallmark is Glasgow 1924, case stamped 7 world records yet Rolex crown on the dial.

It is currently with my independant watchmaker (Rolex approved) for a service and regulate though worryingly he pulled the button and stem straight out of the thing when I put it in his hand.

A couple of questions... firstly the buckle is just a gold plated jobby... looking for a Rolex buckle I can only see 14ct or 18ct buckles. What sort of buckle would it have come with and whats my chance of finding one?

Secondly the dial has some patina, should it be left well alone or should I ask my watchmaker to try and clean it up? Does this look like an honest watch with an original dial?

How rare/common are these since I could only find two other examples online...both in terrible condition with estimates much less than I paid in auction...realised prices not available.

Daveyboyz · 12 August 2016, 02:46 PM

Back from service, button and stem has been tightened (winding block a little worn but serviceable) the watch was de-magnetised and now keeps perfect time.

No response from anyone, does nobody here know anything about it? Is there no enthusiasm for this kind, have I bought a dog?

Paul · 12 August 2016, 04:38 PM

Hi Davey and welcome,

I missed your first post completely but it's good to see your old Rolex. Great to hear your watchmaker sorted it out too. It's from an era that calls out to me and your watch looks like a nice survivor.

My technical knowledge is basic but I know the extra prima movement sat in the middle of the grades produced by Rolex back then. The quality of Rolex even in the early days is such that 80 odd years later your watch can still be tuned to deliver a high degree of accuracy ... and should be good for another 80 years.

Lots of Rolex fans ... including myself at times ... get a bit tunnel-visioned towards the sports models. I have a few Rolex dinosaurs in my collection though and I really enjoy the chance to look back at the early references.

Thanks for showing

MorningTundra · 13 August 2016, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveyboyz

Hi, first post here after I took a punt on this old Rolex which was misdescribed as a 1940's but I believe it to be a 1924/25 model since the hallmark is Glasgow 1924, case stamped 7 world records yet Rolex crown on the dial.

It is currently with my independant watchmaker (Rolex approved) for a service and regulate though worryingly he pulled the button and stem straight out of the thing when I put it in his hand.

A couple of questions... firstly the buckle is just a gold plated jobby... looking for a Rolex buckle I can only see 14ct or 18ct buckles. What sort of buckle would it have come with and whats my chance of finding one?

Secondly the dial has some patina, should it be left well alone or should I ask my watchmaker to try and clean it up? Does this look like an honest watch with an original dial?

How rare/common are these since I could only find two other examples online...both in terrible condition with estimates much less than I paid in auction...realised prices not available.

This is a really attractive watch! Very unique with a lot of charm and character. Great find.

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Daveyboyz · 13 August 2016, 06:37 AM

Thanks :)

GLADIATOR · 13 August 2016, 07:14 AM

DON't (shout) touch the dial, its is a metal dial, any attempt to clean it will destroy it! Its fine!

Watch looks all correct and genuine
Will answer more tomorrow.

PS "pulling the stem out of the 'thing'" is the age of watch fault NOT your watchmaker, and easily repaired!
Adam

EDL7 · 14 August 2016, 02:20 AM

Thats a cool watch..!

Vigilance247 · 14 August 2016, 03:10 AM

The watch is beautiful!

GLADIATOR · 14 August 2016, 06:06 AM

Yes its very nice piece
Sorry, I never got more time today to research it in my books.
But will surely try to add more to my original post
Just do NOT attempt to touch that metal dial!!
A

MorningTundra · 14 August 2016, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Yes its very nice piece
Sorry, I never got more time today to research it in my books.
But will surely try to add more to my original post
Just do NOT attempt to touch that metal dial!!
A

Looking forward to learning something from your follow up post.. Pls don't forget

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William.L. · 14 August 2016, 03:31 PM

I had one from 1921 or 24, can't remember. Do not touch the dial. It's like dust of you do.

GLADIATOR · 15 August 2016, 01:40 AM

OK
I found a similar watch in Dowling/Hess book page 37.
They note that the solid case bars are also hallmarked.

Your watch is using the Hunter movement made by Rebberg.

The movements were graded (by tests) to Prima, Extra Prima and Ultra Prima, this was dropped in 1935 and replaced by "Super Balance" (patent 188077)

Not much more I can add
Acknowledgements Hess/Dowling - The Best of Times
Adam

Daveyboyz · 17 August 2016, 06:54 AM

Thanks for the extra info...

I won't be touching the dial ^^

The button and stem seems fine now, it has a little play in it but that's to be expected after so many years of being wound...

29 July 2016, 01:45 AM	#1
Daveyboyz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: London Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 15	My first Rolex. 9ct rectagular 1924. Hi, first post here after I took a punt on this old Rolex which was misdescribed as a 1940's but I believe it to be a 1924/25 model since the hallmark is Glasgow 1924, case stamped 7 world records yet Rolex crown on the dial. It is currently with my independant watchmaker (Rolex approved) for a service and regulate though worryingly he pulled the button and stem straight out of the thing when I put it in his hand. A couple of questions... firstly the buckle is just a gold plated jobby... looking for a Rolex buckle I can only see 14ct or 18ct buckles. What sort of buckle would it have come with and whats my chance of finding one? Secondly the dial has some patina, should it be left well alone or should I ask my watchmaker to try and clean it up? Does this look like an honest watch with an original dial? How rare/common are these since I could only find two other examples online...both in terrible condition with estimates much less than I paid in auction...realised prices not available.

12 August 2016, 04:38 PM	#3
Paul "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,000	First time I've seen this post ..... Hi Davey and welcome, I missed your first post completely but it's good to see your old Rolex. Great to hear your watchmaker sorted it out too. It's from an era that calls out to me and your watch looks like a nice survivor. My technical knowledge is basic but I know the extra prima movement sat in the middle of the grades produced by Rolex back then. The quality of Rolex even in the early days is such that 80 odd years later your watch can still be tuned to deliver a high degree of accuracy ... and should be good for another 80 years. Lots of Rolex fans ... including myself at times ... get a bit tunnel-visioned towards the sports models. I have a few Rolex dinosaurs in my collection though and I really enjoy the chance to look back at the early references. Thanks for showing

13 August 2016, 07:14 AM	#6
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	DON't (shout) touch the dial, its is a metal dial, any attempt to clean it will destroy it! Its fine! Watch looks all correct and genuine Will answer more tomorrow. PS "pulling the stem out of the 'thing'" is the age of watch fault NOT your watchmaker, and easily repaired! Adam __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

14 August 2016, 03:10 AM	#8
Vigilance247 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Rio Grande Valley Watch: DJ41 Posts: 310	The watch is beautiful! __________________ You can spend your time, waste your time, or invest your time. It's your choice.

14 August 2016, 06:06 AM	#9
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Yes its very nice piece Sorry, I never got more time today to research it in my books. But will surely try to add more to my original post Just do NOT attempt to touch that metal dial!! A __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

12 August 2016, 02:46 PM	#2
Daveyboyz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: London Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 15	Back from service, button and stem has been tightened (winding block a little worn but serviceable) the watch was de-magnetised and now keeps perfect time. No response from anyone, does nobody here know anything about it? Is there no enthusiasm for this kind, have I bought a dog?

13 August 2016, 06:37 AM	#5
Daveyboyz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: London Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 15	Thanks :)

14 August 2016, 02:20 AM	#7
EDL7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 842	Thats a cool watch..!

14 August 2016, 03:31 PM	#11
William.L. "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: William Location: Belleville Mi Watch: 1675 & 16013 Posts: 619	I had one from 1921 or 24, can't remember. Do not touch the dial. It's like dust of you do. __________________ Omega Bumper Automatic Rolex Datejust 16013 TT Rolex GMT 1675/3 Tudor GMT Serti GMT

15 August 2016, 01:40 AM	#12
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	OK I found a similar watch in Dowling/Hess book page 37. They note that the solid case bars are also hallmarked. Your watch is using the Hunter movement made by Rebberg. The movements were graded (by tests) to Prima, Extra Prima and Ultra Prima, this was dropped in 1935 and replaced by "Super Balance" (patent 188077) Not much more I can add Acknowledgements Hess/Dowling - The Best of Times Adam __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

17 August 2016, 06:54 AM	#13
Daveyboyz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: London Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 15	Thanks for the extra info... I won't be touching the dial ^^ The button and stem seems fine now, it has a little play in it but that's to be expected after so many years of being wound...

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