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hddeuce88 · 30 May 2009, 11:36 AM

I am in the market for a Panerai and need some advice. My collection now consists of a SS Sub Date, TT Sub Date, BR 03-94 Chrono, Corum Admiral's Cup and a bunch of lower end watches. My collection obviously ranges in sizes from 40-44mm and I tend to like a bigger watch because I am a big guy. I have tried all three on and cannot make a decision. My favorites are the 104, 233 and 270. I love the sandwich dial on the 233 and 270 and the long power reserve on them as well. I have never owned a manual wind watch so am unsure of the 233 movement. I love the polished case on the 104 and also the automatic movement. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

tuisquash · 30 May 2009, 12:01 PM

they are all great, but very different prices, most of the paneristis prefer the 233, 1950 case, sandwich, excellent power reserve, dome crystal, manual wind is very cool imo.

B. Doggy · 30 May 2009, 12:36 PM

If you can afford it, go for the 233!!

You'll get an in-house 8 day movement that is absolutely awesome. I love winding my 190 each time....it's like buttah!

Keep in mind that the self winding mechanism stays very true to the Panerai heritage and is of their 'Historic' collection. In terms of regular production models, the 233 is the pinnacle.

All the pieces you names are great and it comes down to what you like. I know I intend on the 233 being my next PAM though.

Trurolexer · 30 May 2009, 02:00 PM

233 for me too.

WELCOME TO TRF PANERAI FORUM

TswaneNguni · 30 May 2009, 02:39 PM

The 104 was my first PAM and I love it !! I also have a 111 thats just brilliant for the price and "essential Panerai simplicity"

Ooooooooo and all those lovely straps available ....thats where the real excitement starts !!!!!

The 233 and the new 312 also great choices !!!

Buying the first PAM is a tough decission.....the second and third and so on and so forth are just so much easier !!!

Enjoy the hunt !!!

niels74 · 30 May 2009, 02:40 PM

The 233 and the 270 are indeed very much in line in with each other, the 233 being a little more clean and balanced IMHO against the 270, this due to the dail having the PM/AM indicator, i was more a auto movement fan then a manual wind and at one stage due to this i also compared the 2 (bought a while diff watch) however the 8 days calibre is outstanding on the 233 , what i would choose over the 270 these days

the 104 is whole diff case/watch really and you also cant go wrong with this, however if you have the extra $ to spend the 233 with the 1950 case,domed crystal is a real nice piece, but end ff the day you are the one wearing it , so giv them both a try and see what appeals to you most in either way you cant go wrong....

good luck.

TswaneNguni · 30 May 2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niels74

The 233 and the 270 are indeed very much in line in with each other, the 233 being a little more clean and balanced IMHO against the 270, this due to the dail having the PM/AM indicator, i was more a auto movement fan then a manual wind and at one stage due to this i also compared the 2 (bought a while diff watch) however the 8 days calibre is outstanding on the 233 , what i would choose over the 270 these days

the 104 is whole diff case/watch really and you also cant go wrong with this, however if you have the extra $ to spend the 233 with the 1950 case,domed crystal is a real nice piece, but end ff the day you are the one wearing it , so giv them both a try and see what appeals to you most in either way you cant go wrong....

good luck.

Just to ad to this .....

233>270 IMO

If going for a 233,try to get one with "The Dot" and not the am/pm indicator.

niels74 · 30 May 2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Just to ad to this .....

233>270 IMO

If going for a 233,try to get one with "The Dot" and not the am/pm indicator.

Great note there as the new Mod indeed got the same AM/PMindicator.. im getting old....

brainbizz · 30 May 2009, 05:37 PM

233 > 270 > 104

Zed · 30 May 2009, 06:41 PM

233 ... got to be.. i though over it for a while and concluded that 233 is a winner.. combines the classical Panerai element with a cutting edge movement.. although the movement is not simple the look is very clean.. i havent bought mine yet but in the next few days i will...

Trurolexer · 30 May 2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainbizz

233 > 270 > 104

VazLube · 30 May 2009, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainbizz

233 > 270 > 104

Is it me or that 270 dial numbers look smaller than 233?

Oh wait, is it optical illusion due to the domed crystal?

brainbizz · 30 May 2009, 11:16 PM

That is the problem I have with the 270. The numbers are smaller and distorted due to the curve of the crystal.

argee1977 · 30 May 2009, 11:22 PM

Did somebody mention 233

VazLube · 30 May 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainbizz

That is the problem I have with the 270. The numbers are smaller and distorted due to the curve of the crystal.

Ah thought so, looks like they made them smaller so they would be in proportion to 9, which had to be squeezed in there.

B. Doggy · 31 May 2009, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

Did somebody mention 233

:d rul:

hddeuce88 · 31 May 2009, 01:23 AM

Thanks everyone for the advice. I have tried on all 3 and like them all but was leaning heavily towards the 233. I love the sandwich dial and domed crystal and have heard nothing but amazing reviews of the movement. Thank you all again!!

argee1977 · 31 May 2009, 02:35 AM

Coming onto this forum, there was only one choice, everyone has a 233 on here and it's catching

hddeuce88 · 25 June 2009, 10:25 AM

Thank you everyone for the advice and the wonderful pics. I think my mind is made up.............233!!!!!!!!

B. Doggy · 25 June 2009, 01:01 PM

Go for it and do post some pics!

Zed · 25 June 2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hddeuce88

Thank you everyone for the advice and the wonderful pics. I think my mind is made up.............233!!!!!!!!

Go for it... you'll have no regrets........

rotan · 25 June 2009, 04:19 PM

Hi Bro seems like you have made up your mind... 233 is da best! Loving wearing it every minute of it... Even at home...

GBJIV · 25 June 2009, 04:34 PM

My Vote??? Definitely 233. I love it. It is a fantastic PAM.

Good Luck!

Ronnie Rolex · 26 June 2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

Did somebody mention 233

Does the 233 have the quick change release system for the strap? I thought it didn't but it looks like it does in the photos.

Trurolexer · 26 June 2009, 04:27 PM

Yes, 233 is quick change...

Ted Su(TW) · 27 June 2009, 02:59 AM

I've been waiting for mine for almost a year now...

How does yours play?

Ted Su(TW)

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

Did somebody mention 233

Trurolexer · 27 June 2009, 03:36 AM

Ted, I see your watches collection in your website. Great collection!!!

Ronnie Rolex · 27 June 2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Yes, 233 is quick change...

Geez, that's just great. That was the only thing holding me back from buying it!

hflee55 · 29 June 2009, 12:59 AM

i would go for the 233...

louie · 29 June 2009, 11:59 PM

30 May 2009, 11:36 AM	#1
hddeuce88 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: CT Watch: All of them Posts: 144	Need Some Help!! I am in the market for a Panerai and need some advice. My collection now consists of a SS Sub Date, TT Sub Date, BR 03-94 Chrono, Corum Admiral's Cup and a bunch of lower end watches. My collection obviously ranges in sizes from 40-44mm and I tend to like a bigger watch because I am a big guy. I have tried all three on and cannot make a decision. My favorites are the 104, 233 and 270. I love the sandwich dial on the 233 and 270 and the long power reserve on them as well. I have never owned a manual wind watch so am unsure of the 233 movement. I love the polished case on the 104 and also the automatic movement. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

30 May 2009, 12:01 PM	#2
tuisquash "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: tui Location: são paulo-brasil Watch: panerai rolex Posts: 772	they are all great, but very different prices, most of the paneristis prefer the 233, 1950 case, sandwich, excellent power reserve, dome crystal, manual wind is very cool imo. __________________ panerai and rolex

30 May 2009, 12:36 PM	#3
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	If you can afford it, go for the 233!! You'll get an in-house 8 day movement that is absolutely awesome. I love winding my 190 each time....it's like buttah! Keep in mind that the self winding mechanism stays very true to the Panerai heritage and is of their 'Historic' collection. In terms of regular production models, the 233 is the pinnacle. All the pieces you names are great and it comes down to what you like. I know I intend on the 233 being my next PAM though. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

30 May 2009, 05:37 PM	#9
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	233 > 270 > 104 Attached Images

30 May 2009, 11:22 PM	#14
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Did somebody mention 233 __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

30 May 2009, 02:00 PM	#4
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	233 for me too. WELCOME TO TRF PANERAI FORUM

30 May 2009, 02:39 PM	#5
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	The 104 was my first PAM and I love it !! I also have a 111 thats just brilliant for the price and "essential Panerai simplicity" Ooooooooo and all those lovely straps available ....thats where the real excitement starts !!!!! The 233 and the new 312 also great choices !!! Buying the first PAM is a tough decission.....the second and third and so on and so forth are just so much easier !!! Enjoy the hunt !!!

30 May 2009, 02:40 PM	#6
niels74 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Siberia,yes it is Posts: 640	The 233 and the 270 are indeed very much in line in with each other, the 233 being a little more clean and balanced IMHO against the 270, this due to the dail having the PM/AM indicator, i was more a auto movement fan then a manual wind and at one stage due to this i also compared the 2 (bought a while diff watch) however the 8 days calibre is outstanding on the 233 , what i would choose over the 270 these days the 104 is whole diff case/watch really and you also cant go wrong with this, however if you have the extra $ to spend the 233 with the 1950 case,domed crystal is a real nice piece, but end ff the day you are the one wearing it , so giv them both a try and see what appeals to you most in either way you cant go wrong.... good luck.

30 May 2009, 06:41 PM	#10
Zed Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Watch: Panerai 186 & 233 Posts: 489	233 ... got to be.. i though over it for a while and concluded that 233 is a winner.. combines the classical Panerai element with a cutting edge movement.. although the movement is not simple the look is very clean.. i havent bought mine yet but in the next few days i will...

30 May 2009, 11:16 PM	#13
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	That is the problem I have with the 270. The numbers are smaller and distorted due to the curve of the crystal.

31 May 2009, 01:23 AM	#17
hddeuce88 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: CT Watch: All of them Posts: 144	Thanks everyone for the advice. I have tried on all 3 and like them all but was leaning heavily towards the 233. I love the sandwich dial and domed crystal and have heard nothing but amazing reviews of the movement. Thank you all again!!

31 May 2009, 02:35 AM	#18
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Coming onto this forum, there was only one choice, everyone has a 233 on here and it's catching __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

25 June 2009, 10:25 AM	#19
hddeuce88 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: CT Watch: All of them Posts: 144	Thank you everyone for the advice and the wonderful pics. I think my mind is made up.............233!!!!!!!!

25 June 2009, 01:01 PM	#20
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Go for it and do post some pics! __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

25 June 2009, 04:19 PM	#22
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	Hi Bro seems like you have made up your mind... 233 is da best! Loving wearing it every minute of it... Even at home... __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

25 June 2009, 04:34 PM	#23
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	My Vote??? Definitely 233. I love it. It is a fantastic PAM. Good Luck! __________________ Jackson

26 June 2009, 04:27 PM	#25
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Yes, 233 is quick change...

27 June 2009, 03:36 AM	#27
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Ted, I see your watches collection in your website. Great collection!!!

29 June 2009, 12:59 AM	#29
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	i would go for the 233...

29 June 2009, 11:59 PM	#30
louie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Louis Location: Earth Watch: The Beast Posts: 1,352	one for da bros in the house! __________________ " I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

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