How do you like this MK4 1680 red

[athom]

https://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/rolex-...id17059432.htm

Many thanks for your help mates

[mignonp13]

I like it and you ??!


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[athom]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

I like it and you ??!


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French humour

I meant do you see anything wrong? Any service parts? Any red alarm?

Thanks

[athom]

or do you prefer this one ?

https://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/rolex-...id16593285.htm

[mignonp13]

Both are genuine it’s just your feeling, one is full set and surely pricey
And the other one is nice and genuine but no paper... just make your choice with your budget and happy new year


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[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by athom

or do you prefer this one ?

https://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/rolex-...id16593285.htm

There is a lot of white font showing underneath the red in this one.🤔

[MorningTundra]

Originally Posted by saltpeter

There is a lot of white font showing underneath the red in this one.🤔

Quite common and legit.

[1665fan]

I prefer the second, it has.a nicer case of the two also

[athom]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

I prefer the second, it has.a nicer case of the two also

thicker yes, but the first is not so polished, or?

Thanks

[athom]

Originally Posted by MorningTundra

Quite common and legit.

also had the feeling that it was quite normal

[saxo3]

The first one (Gerzner) may (!) have an issue on the matt dial, just above the "A" of Submariner. I looked at both watches before...

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by athom

https://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/rolex-...id17059432.htm

Many thanks for your help mates

I sent you a message

[mignonp13]

Originally Posted by saxo3

The first one (Gerzner) may (!) have an issue on the matt dial, just above the "A" of Submariner. I looked at both watches before...

Totally genuine buddy... let’s have a 2021 happy year no paranoia please


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[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

Totally genuine buddy... let’s have a 2021 happy year no paranoia please


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it does look very genuine, with a little hole in the dial

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

Totally genuine buddy... let’s have a 2021 happy year no paranoia please
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How do you want to know that? You are the seller? No paranoia at all buddy, just what one can see on the photo, a little hole but a genuine Mk4

[mignonp13]

Originally Posted by saxo3

How do you want to know that? You are the seller? No paranoia at all buddy, just what one can see on the photo, a little hole but a genuine Mk4

Please develop... I’m in vintage for 20 years, so I’m sure it’s genuine, I can’t tell you more to convince you
If you think it’s not good, I can’t force you to believe me and I really don’t care


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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

Please develop... I’m in vintage for 20 years, so I’m sure it’s genuine, I can’t tell you more to convince you
If you think it’s not good, I can’t force you to believe me and I really don’t care


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Read carefully, buddy, I never said it is not genuine! Détendez-vous

[athom]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

Please develop... I’m in vintage for 20 years, so I’m sure it’s genuine, I can’t tell you more to convince you
If you think it’s not good, I can’t force you to believe me and I really don’t care


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it is not about genuine or not, it is more like a stain, or?

[mignonp13]

« Je suis détendu » my friend
No problem
Happy new year BTW


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[saxo3]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

« Je suis détendu » my friend
No problem
Happy new year BTW
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.... tant mieux, moi aussi

[BrazenC5]

Originally Posted by saxo3

How do you want to know that? You are the seller? No paranoia at all buddy, just what one can see on the photo, a little hole but a genuine Mk4

Looks like an oil stain, possibly from a past service.

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[athom]

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

Looks like an oil stain, possibly from a past service.

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an oil stain, exactly my thought but is it possible to get ride of it then?

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by saltpeter

There is a lot of white font showing underneath the red in this one.🤔

That's a classic characteristic of a MK IV dial.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

Looks like an oil stain, possibly from a past service.

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The visibilty of this surface defect is viewing angle and light dependent, most likely not a geometrical defect (small hole as I said) but a stain, I agree.

[saxo3]

On the same watch ...
What is the origin of these marks? Not the horizontal scratches but the dark spots.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by saxo3

What is the origin of these marks? Not the horizontal scratches but the dark spots.

Pitting from moisture. Pretty common, and not too terrible compared to some I have seen. You want to make sure that the case-back sealing surface isn't badly pitted.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Dan S

Pitting from moisture. Pretty common, and not too terrible compared to some I have seen. You want to make sure that the case-back sealing surface isn't badly pitted.

Oh yes, that's the stainless steel material aspect of the classic watches, I overlooked that. Thanks for the keyword "pitting".

Before the introduction of 904 L stainless steel, 316 L was used. The 904 L has an increased corrosion resistance and is less prone to pitting than the old cases, point taken.

[Filipão]

Originally Posted by saxo3

Oh yes, that's the stainless steel material aspect of the classic watches, I overlooked that. Thanks for the keyword "pitting".

Before the introduction of 904 L stainless steel, 316 L was used. The 904 L has an increased corrosion resistance and is less prone to pitting than the old cases, point taken.

Yes. Very common indeed.

[Filipão]

Originally Posted by athom

an oil stain, exactly my thought but is it possible to get ride of it then?

It is, even without removing hands. But I wouldn't trust just about any Watchmaker for that, though. Faut faire attention.

[saxo3]

Addendum (to #27) on 904 L stainless steel

"Rolex’s steel watches are manufactured from Rolex’s own 904L alloy, known as "Oystersteel” from 2018. Most commonly used in high-technology and in the aerospace and chemical industries, 904L steels are comparable to precious metals for their anti-corrosion properties and acquire an exceptional sheen once polished. In 1985, Rolex became the first watchmaking brand to use this steel from the 904L family for its cases."