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Jason71 · 27 November 2009, 12:59 AM

I hadn't noticed until today (first time I have taken macro shots)........But Rolex made a slight boo boo on my dial. Look at the 3 lines of text on the top of the dial. I believe that "Milgauss" is centered, but the 2 lines above are shifted to the left. Actually, the text on the bottom off the dial is slightly shifted to the left as well. I am researching it now, but on all the other Millies that I have found thus far have symmetrical text.

I bought the watch from DavidSW, and it was BNIB. The warranty card is in my name, so I feel pretty certain that I could have it replaced at no cost. I honestly don't typically sweat the small details, and I have been wearing the watch all week without even noticing. I am inclined to not mess with it. What would you guys do........Would you have the dial replaced? Or, would you leave it alone

esm · 27 November 2009, 01:02 AM

just saw the off-centre pic....
i would do a dial change under the warranty

scottjal · 27 November 2009, 01:04 AM

That is a defect in production that frankly should have been caught well before now, I would replace.

Jason71 · 27 November 2009, 01:07 AM

I predict that this "flawed dial" will be like the stick-dial GMT II. It will be worth a premium someday

J/K

Omega_Precision · 27 November 2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jclevoy

I predict that this "flawed dial" will be like the stick-dial GMT II. It will be worth a premium someday

If you can live with, then that is what counts.

Damavand · 27 November 2009, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jclevoy

I predict that this "flawed dial" will be like the stick-dial GMT II. It will be worth a premium someday

I am with Jason on this subject...

Don't touch it...it is awesome....Factory mistakes by ROLEX is very RARE.....it might be worth big bucks someday...

it is a "UNIQUE" subject as it is for now.!!!!!!!

Remember the upside down Bi plane printed on USPS stamps by accident early 20th century......later, fetched millions..???

R1@160@alltimes · 27 November 2009, 01:28 AM

I would swap out for a new dial but still keep the "off centered" variant.

In case it may be worth something some day.

STEELINOX · 27 November 2009, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jclevoy

I predict that this "flawed dial" will be like the stick-dial GMT II. It will be worth a premium someday

J/K

I would KEEP IT !

Omega_Precision · 27 November 2009, 01:06 AM

x3

I would replace it....it's noticeable and it would drive me insane, if it was my watch.

lamnyc · 27 November 2009, 01:06 AM

I would. Bad quality control.

sturgeon123456 · 27 November 2009, 01:27 AM

leave it alone! awesome and rare

Omega_Precision · 27 November 2009, 01:30 AM

Or 50 years from now people are going to think that is a fake dial.

Look at all the Red Submariner and the DRSD detectives today.

Jason71 · 27 November 2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

Or 50 years from now people are going to think that is a fake dial.

Look at all the Red Submariner and the DRSD detectives today.

Good point.........But if I retain the watch for a long time (I am the first owner) since the papers are in my name.........It seems like that would go quite a ways in authenticating the watch/dial.

Speed · 27 November 2009, 01:38 AM

Jason,

Have you asked Rolex and/or an AD about it? I.e. is it a "known" issue?

Just curious.

Omega_Precision · 27 November 2009, 01:43 AM

SWISS MADE ........ looks off too.

Speed · 27 November 2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

SWISS MADE ........ looks off too.

GOOD EYE!

Jason71 · 27 November 2009, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

SWISS MADE ........ looks off too.

I hadn't noticed that either

You are right though. ALL the black text on the dial is off-centered and shifted to the left.

CoopJr · 27 November 2009, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

SWISS MADE ........ looks off too.

Yeah it does....I vote for a new dial. Thats a $5K watch fer cripes sake!...should be perfect IMO.

Jason71 · 27 November 2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoopJr

Yeah it does....I vote for a new dial. Thats a $5K watch fer cripes sake!...should be perfect IMO.

Retail of $6,200

CoopJr · 27 November 2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jclevoy

Retail of $6,200

That it is isnt it.

My bad!

Omega_Precision · 27 November 2009, 01:50 AM

Looks like it is a multiple step process, in producing dials by Rolex.

Look at the consistency, in how the text was off centered and everything else is perfect.

A one step process would have prevented this from happening. I believe the coronet is applied by hand and the person doing it should have spotted the text, but it got passed along to the next assembly line.

Very interesting....

Speed · 27 November 2009, 01:58 AM

Whoa.

Maybe you DO have a collector's item Jason.

Here is a watch like yours...scroll down to see Steven 79's post

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=44854

You appear to have a unique specimen.

Tony-GB · 27 November 2009, 05:38 AM

KEEP IT!! Rolex's with squiffy dials are always desirable. My advice is to write to Rolex & ask them if they are aware of the flaw & if there are many like that. Keep their response in the box & that will stop anyone saying your dial is a fake in the future.

KEEP IT!

moviefreak · 27 November 2009, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

KEEP IT!! Rolex's with squiffy dials are always desirable. My advice is to write to Rolex & ask them if they are aware of the flaw & if there are many like that. Keep their response in the box & that will stop anyone saying your dial is a fake in the future.

KEEP IT!

If you are writing them, send them a picture of the dial or a cd with images...

JJ Irani · 27 November 2009, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moviefreak

If you are writing them, send them a picture of the dial or a cd with images...

....and don't forget to include a picture of me!! That should get those buggers swinging into action!!

Saxon007 · 27 November 2009, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

KEEP IT!! Rolex's with squiffy dials are always desirable. My advice is to write to Rolex & ask them if they are aware of the flaw & if there are many like that. Keep their response in the box & that will stop anyone saying your dial is a fake in the future.

KEEP IT!

I believe I would heed this advice - you might have to actually walk it into RSC to get it verified though. I doubt they will own up to a factory mistake in writing but you may be able to get something in writing from the RSC.

Without an official document stating the dial is genuine I would have it replaced.

Z-Sub · 27 November 2009, 01:53 PM

I would leave it since you're not bothered by it and you have about 2 years to change your mind.

thesharkfactor · 27 November 2009, 01:57 AM

if the rsc change the dial, i cant see them letting you keep the misaligned one. if i were you, considering the comments above and the potential of the dial as a rarity, i would either leave it as is and know that you have a "special" milgauss, or if you cant live with it, pick up another dial and have a watchmaker swap it out for you and keep the special one..just incase it turns out to be worth someting in the future..you can always put it back on your watch..!

best of luck whatever you decide..

i too have had problems with both my rolexes, my 1st brand new sub had a metal shaving under the crystal, and my 2nd one had dust on the dial and dirt on the 11 lume!

all good now though.. sorted..

Omega_Precision · 27 November 2009, 02:02 AM

If these dials are being stamped with robotics, I wonder how many batches of these dials are out there.

Surely this can't be an isolated incident? Or could it?

I am going back to the thread that Greg started about the Milgauss and look at the pictures from members.

Speed · 27 November 2009, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

If these dials are being stamped with robotics, I wonder how many batches of these dials are out there.

Surely this can't be an isolated incident? Or could it?

I am going back to the thread that Greg started about the Milgauss and look at the pictures of members.

Was just thinking that...

What is a "typical" dial production run. Since the Migauss is not as popular, perhaps they had smaller runs.

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27 November 2009, 12:59 AM	#1
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Off Center Text.....Replace the Dial?? I hadn't noticed until today (first time I have taken macro shots)........But Rolex made a slight boo boo on my dial. Look at the 3 lines of text on the top of the dial. I believe that "Milgauss" is centered, but the 2 lines above are shifted to the left. Actually, the text on the bottom off the dial is slightly shifted to the left as well. I am researching it now, but on all the other Millies that I have found thus far have symmetrical text. I bought the watch from DavidSW, and it was BNIB. The warranty card is in my name, so I feel pretty certain that I could have it replaced at no cost. I honestly don't typically sweat the small details, and I have been wearing the watch all week without even noticing. I am inclined to not mess with it. What would you guys do........Would you have the dial replaced? Or, would you leave it alone __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

27 November 2009, 01:04 AM	#3
scottjal "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: SC Watch: GMT II Posts: 464	That is a defect in production that frankly should have been caught well before now, I would replace. __________________ sj

27 November 2009, 01:07 AM	#4
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	I predict that this "flawed dial" will be like the stick-dial GMT II. It will be worth a premium someday J/K __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

27 November 2009, 01:28 AM	#7
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I would swap out for a new dial but still keep the "off centered" variant. In case it may be worth something some day. __________________

27 November 2009, 01:02 AM	#2
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	just saw the off-centre pic.... i would do a dial change under the warranty

27 November 2009, 01:06 AM	#9
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	x3 I would replace it....it's noticeable and it would drive me insane, if it was my watch.

27 November 2009, 01:06 AM	#10
lamnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nyc Posts: 1,762	I would. Bad quality control.

27 November 2009, 01:27 AM	#11
sturgeon123456 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 2,551	leave it alone! awesome and rare

27 November 2009, 01:30 AM	#12
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	Or 50 years from now people are going to think that is a fake dial. Look at all the Red Submariner and the DRSD detectives today.

27 November 2009, 01:38 AM	#14
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Jason, Have you asked Rolex and/or an AD about it? I.e. is it a "known" issue? Just curious.

27 November 2009, 01:43 AM	#15
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	SWISS MADE ........ looks off too.

27 November 2009, 01:50 AM	#21
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	Looks like it is a multiple step process, in producing dials by Rolex. Look at the consistency, in how the text was off centered and everything else is perfect. A one step process would have prevented this from happening. I believe the coronet is applied by hand and the person doing it should have spotted the text, but it got passed along to the next assembly line. Very interesting....

27 November 2009, 01:58 AM	#22
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Whoa. Maybe you DO have a collector's item Jason. Here is a watch like yours...scroll down to see Steven 79's post http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=44854 You appear to have a unique specimen.

27 November 2009, 05:38 AM	#23
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	KEEP IT!! Rolex's with squiffy dials are always desirable. My advice is to write to Rolex & ask them if they are aware of the flaw & if there are many like that. Keep their response in the box & that will stop anyone saying your dial is a fake in the future. KEEP IT! __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

27 November 2009, 01:53 PM	#27
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	I would leave it since you're not bothered by it and you have about 2 years to change your mind. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

27 November 2009, 01:57 AM	#28
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,639	if the rsc change the dial, i cant see them letting you keep the misaligned one. if i were you, considering the comments above and the potential of the dial as a rarity, i would either leave it as is and know that you have a "special" milgauss, or if you cant live with it, pick up another dial and have a watchmaker swap it out for you and keep the special one..just incase it turns out to be worth someting in the future..you can always put it back on your watch..! best of luck whatever you decide.. i too have had problems with both my rolexes, my 1st brand new sub had a metal shaving under the crystal, and my 2nd one had dust on the dial and dirt on the 11 lume! all good now though.. sorted..

27 November 2009, 02:02 AM	#29
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	If these dials are being stamped with robotics, I wonder how many batches of these dials are out there. Surely this can't be an isolated incident? Or could it? I am going back to the thread that Greg started about the Milgauss and look at the pictures from members.

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