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perpetualman88 · 26 June 2011, 05:58 PM

Hi guys im going to be buying a rolex this week and I cant decide between the submariner (116610ln) or the datejust II with a black dial and roman numberals. Please give me any suggestions or opinions as it is much appreciated.

Cheers
dave

RollieKid · 26 June 2011, 06:01 PM

Can't go wrong with either....with that said I'll probably go with the Sub...

thewatchguy93 · 26 June 2011, 06:06 PM

Hi Dave,

This is a tricky one and I have been in your possition before..

There are a couple of things to consider, With the DJII it is not going to hold its value and you will lose quite alot of money on it over time. The Sub on the other hand holds its value a little bit more. A watch is not for investment its for pleasure in my mind but its always something to think about before buying.

I've posted a few pics just to help you make your decision

Make sure you try both watches on at an AD and see which one you prefer

Here is the DJII Rhodium Dial...

Hope this helps,

Dino

mrbill2mrbill2 · 27 June 2011, 07:04 AM

While I like the DJ the upside down 4,5,6,7,&8 aribic are not for me.

Therefore, a 16610!!

perpetualman88 · 27 June 2011, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

While I like the DJ the upside down 4,5,6,7,&8 aribic are not for me.

Therefore, a 16610!!

I will be getting the 116610LN

gwozhog · 27 June 2011, 10:12 AM

If it was 1988 I would say get the Datejust in a heartbeat.

perpetualman88 · 26 June 2011, 06:12 PM

thanks so much for the awsome pictures. I think I am leaning a bit towards the submariner. I currently have a 36mm SS DJ that i am going to sell as soon as i purchase my new watch from the AD this week.

Anymore opinions and comments are apprecaited!

thewatchguy93 · 26 June 2011, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perpetualman88

thanks so much for the awsome pictures. I think I am leaning a bit towards the submariner. I currently have a 36mm SS DJ that i am going to sell as soon as i purchase my new watch from the AD this week.

Anymore opinions and comments are apprecaited!

I noticed you had a DJ in your details section <<<

Just a word of warning, if your selling your current datejust for a newer one. Maybe you will want to sell your new one after some time too?

You have got a day date in your collection right? I think that watch is simlar to the DJ in many ways. Where as the Submariner is a sports "tool" watch...

Have you considered the SS GMT Master II Ceramic?

It has the slight bling factor just like the DJII with the PCL's (Polished Centre Links) Also has the sports super case like the Sub... Best of both worlds right?

Dino

Bruno C · 27 June 2011, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingoo93

I noticed you had a DJ in your details section <<<

Just a word of warning, if your selling your current datejust for a newer one. Maybe you will want to sell your new one after some time too?

You have got a day date in your collection right? I think that watch is simlar to the DJ in many ways. Where as the Submariner is a sports "tool" watch...

Have you considered the SS GMT Master II Ceramic?

It has the slight bling factor just like the DJII with the PCL's (Polished Centre Links) Also has the sports super case like the Sub... Best of both worlds right?

Dino

Gorgeous GMT Dingo!!

slcbbrown · 27 June 2011, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perpetualman88

thanks so much for the awsome pictures. I think I am leaning a bit towards the submariner. I currently have a 36mm SS DJ that i am going to sell as soon as i purchase my new watch from the AD this week.

Anymore opinions and comments are apprecaited!

If you've already got a nice DJ, get the Sub and keep the DJ. I think the Subs are classics and the DJII isn't. If you're planning to buy new Sub or DJII, I think the Sub will hold value and the DJII is a crap shoot.

SWIMPRUF · 26 June 2011, 06:22 PM

You can't go wrong with the iconic and legendary Submariner.

perpetualman88 · 26 June 2011, 06:26 PM

wow that GMT is gorgeous Dingo!!!!!
I think the with the bezel and extra hand it is a little too busy for me however. I will be selling my 36mm datejust after I buy my new watch this week. My yellow gold day date however is not for sale and never will be it was my grandfathers.

thewatchguy93 · 26 June 2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perpetualman88

wow that GMT is gorgeous Dingo!!!!!
I think the with the bezel and extra hand it is a little too busy for me however. I will be selling my 36mm datejust after I buy my new watch this week. My yellow gold day date however is not for sale and never will be it was my grandfathers.

Great stuff, Its nice when a watch has sentimental values behind it

Good luck with your decision

Dino

Shade · 26 June 2011, 06:34 PM

The datejust II for me. Id take a non ceramic sub any time though.. But not the ceramic ones..

HPY · 26 June 2011, 09:01 PM

Sub C hands down

RRGHOST1 · 26 June 2011, 09:04 PM

Your watches are dress watches and the DJ II would fit the bill if you want to keep in that theme. The SubC is also a great watch which would complement your collection. So its a question of, do you want another dress type watch or a tool type watch ? Tough choice.

Watch Professor · 26 June 2011, 09:09 PM

While the DJ II is beautiful, when I tried one on I found the bezel to be a bit too blingy and the 41 mm size too large. I would go with the Sub C or as I did, the GMT IIC.

mldaytona · 26 June 2011, 10:04 PM

esm · 26 June 2011, 10:15 PM

Can't really go wrong with either.

I think many people are still thinking at 41mm DJII is bigger than a 40mm Sub C or GMTIIC... Not really. The overall size of both are about the same - one has narrower bezel and the other has a "massive" bezel

nauticajoe · 26 June 2011, 10:19 PM

Tough choice. Both great watches. IMO the SubC is more versatile; it can be worn in any occasion.

Good luck!

globalmedia33 · 26 June 2011, 10:37 PM

Both are great watches, but the Sub is more popular.

dddrees · 26 June 2011, 10:45 PM

Either way you can't go wrong. For my first I chose the GMTIIC, but I made sure I got a DJII shortly after that. Both are great watches.

TSW · 26 June 2011, 10:51 PM

No brainer, Sub gets my vote!

travisb · 26 June 2011, 11:20 PM

Hands down.

Try them both on and I'm sure you will find a winner.

Sherwooddavid · 27 June 2011, 12:06 AM

Sub C for me but I might be a little biased.

esm · 27 June 2011, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slcbbrown

If you've already got a nice DJ, get the Sub and keep the DJ. I think the Subs are classics and the DJII isn't. If you're planning to buy new Sub or DJII, I think the Sub will hold value and the DJII is a crap shoot.

I will have to disagree with the above.
IMO - "Classic" doesn't apply to both 116610LN and DJII if you want to be precise. Yes, the both of them still carries the lines of it's original design, but they are not "classics", in terms of the appearance.

IMO - both will have it own place in the Rolex range. They are two totally different watches that serves different purposes.

Saying a certain watch is a crap shot is quite uncalled for IMO.

chicagofan · 27 June 2011, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

I will have to disagree with the above.
IMO - "Classic" doesn't apply to both 116610LN and DJII if you want to be precise. Yes, the both of them still carries the lines of it's original design, but they are not "classics", in terms of the appearance.

IMO - both will have it own place in the Rolex range. They are two totally different watches that serves different purposes.

Saying a certain watch is a crap shot is quite uncalled for IMO.

Well stated. Totally agree.

z32turbo · 27 June 2011, 01:45 AM

I'd go fr the Sub first before the DJ.

Good luck and enjoy your watch!

perpetualman88 · 27 June 2011, 04:26 AM

damn thanks for all the feedback i woke up this morning with al these great comments. I emailed my AD this morning because they are not open sundays i bleieve i will be going with the new Sub-C. thanks so much everyone

thewatchguy93 · 27 June 2011, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perpetualman88

damn thanks for all the feedback i woke up this morning with al these great comments. I emailed my AD this morning because they are not open sundays i bleieve i will be going with the new Sub-C. thanks so much everyone

Great news

I believe you made the best decision. Good on ya pal

Dino

26 June 2011, 05:58 PM	#1
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,172	Rolex Submariner Ceramic or Datejust II Hi guys im going to be buying a rolex this week and I cant decide between the submariner (116610ln) or the datejust II with a black dial and roman numberals. Please give me any suggestions or opinions as it is much appreciated. Cheers dave

26 June 2011, 06:01 PM	#2
RollieKid "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Down under Watch: my wrist candy Posts: 567	Can't go wrong with either....with that said I'll probably go with the Sub... __________________ “No amount of money ever bought a second of time.” — Howard Stark

26 June 2011, 06:06 PM	#3
thewatchguy93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: thewatchguy Location: UK Watch: me buy gold.. Posts: 7,441	Hi Dave, This is a tricky one and I have been in your possition before.. There are a couple of things to consider, With the DJII it is not going to hold its value and you will lose quite alot of money on it over time. The Sub on the other hand holds its value a little bit more. A watch is not for investment its for pleasure in my mind but its always something to think about before buying. I've posted a few pics just to help you make your decision Make sure you try both watches on at an AD and see which one you prefer Here is the DJII Rhodium Dial... Hope this helps, Dino __________________ Instagram.. @thewatchguy www.thewatchguyofficial.co.uk Got a GREEN Submariner 116610LV.. Visit the official thread here! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=179580 Don't forget to visit the Rolex & Attire thread too! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=215077

27 June 2011, 07:04 AM	#4
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	While I like the DJ the upside down 4,5,6,7,&8 aribic are not for me. Therefore, a 16610!! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13 Last edited by mrbill2mrbill2; 27 June 2011 at 07:09 AM.. Reason: comment

26 June 2011, 06:22 PM	#11
SWIMPRUF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: * Posts: 2,323	You can't go wrong with the iconic and legendary Submariner. __________________ Member# 52,675 Est. 3/2011

27 June 2011, 10:12 AM	#6
gwozhog "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Point Blank, TX Posts: 2,894	If it was 1988 I would say get the Datejust in a heartbeat.

26 June 2011, 06:12 PM	#7
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,172	thanks so much for the awsome pictures. I think I am leaning a bit towards the submariner. I currently have a 36mm SS DJ that i am going to sell as soon as i purchase my new watch from the AD this week. Anymore opinions and comments are apprecaited!

26 June 2011, 06:26 PM	#12
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,172	wow that GMT is gorgeous Dingo!!!!! I think the with the bezel and extra hand it is a little too busy for me however. I will be selling my 36mm datejust after I buy my new watch this week. My yellow gold day date however is not for sale and never will be it was my grandfathers.

26 June 2011, 06:34 PM	#14
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	The datejust II for me. Id take a non ceramic sub any time though.. But not the ceramic ones.. __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

26 June 2011, 09:01 PM	#15
HPY Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: PH Watch: Daytona Posts: 213	Sub C hands down

26 June 2011, 09:04 PM	#16
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,991	Your watches are dress watches and the DJ II would fit the bill if you want to keep in that theme. The SubC is also a great watch which would complement your collection. So its a question of, do you want another dress type watch or a tool type watch ? Tough choice.

26 June 2011, 09:09 PM	#17
Watch Professor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Myron Location: New York Watch: GMT IIC; Sub Date Posts: 3,166	While the DJ II is beautiful, when I tried one on I found the bezel to be a bit too blingy and the 41 mm size too large. I would go with the Sub C or as I did, the GMT IIC. __________________

26 June 2011, 10:15 PM	#19
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	Can't really go wrong with either. I think many people are still thinking at 41mm DJII is bigger than a 40mm Sub C or GMTIIC... Not really. The overall size of both are about the same - one has narrower bezel and the other has a "massive" bezel

26 June 2011, 10:19 PM	#20
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Tough choice. Both great watches. IMO the SubC is more versatile; it can be worn in any occasion. Good luck!

26 June 2011, 10:37 PM	#21
globalmedia33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Thien Location: Frisco,TX/Saigon Watch: All Rolex Posts: 2,754	Both are great watches, but the Sub is more popular. __________________ Sub. 5513 116710LN 116610LV “I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

26 June 2011, 10:45 PM	#22
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	Either way you can't go wrong. For my first I chose the GMTIIC, but I made sure I got a DJII shortly after that. Both are great watches. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

26 June 2011, 10:51 PM	#23
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	No brainer, Sub gets my vote! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

26 June 2011, 11:20 PM	#24
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,402	Definately the SubC Hands down. Try them both on and I'm sure you will find a winner.

27 June 2011, 12:06 AM	#25
Sherwooddavid "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: Canada Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,080	Sub C for me but I might be a little biased.

27 June 2011, 01:45 AM	#28
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	I'd go fr the Sub first before the DJ. Good luck and enjoy your watch! __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

27 June 2011, 04:26 AM	#29
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,172	damn thanks for all the feedback i woke up this morning with al these great comments. I emailed my AD this morning because they are not open sundays i bleieve i will be going with the new Sub-C. thanks so much everyone

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