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The Crown · 23 August 2007, 03:39 AM

An AD told me there was a ranking of watch makers as to how accurate the watches were, along other criteria, with Patek at the top and rolex sitting about #5. Do any of you know what he was reffering to? Would be interesting to check out.
Thanks
Phillip

frostie · 23 August 2007, 04:12 AM

i have no idea about that. Let's see what the other forum members will say

roadcarver · 23 August 2007, 04:18 AM

For accuracy (not specifically targetting automatics), I think a superquartz would be at the top of a list.

frostie · 23 August 2007, 04:23 AM

what's the difference of a quartz and a superquatz?

Stef_Call · 23 August 2007, 04:33 AM

errrrrrr??? I'll take a guess SuperQuartz is more accurate ?? :)

frostie · 23 August 2007, 04:34 AM

So superquartz is more accurate than quartz ?

Stef_Call · 23 August 2007, 04:35 AM

SuperQuartz compensates for temperature changes which is why it is so much more accurate

Stef_Call · 23 August 2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stef_Call

SuperQuartz compensates for temperature changes which is why it is so much more accurate

Or so I read on another forum

JJ Irani · 23 August 2007, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stef_Call

SuperQuartz compensates for temperature changes which is why it is so much more accurate

That's right...it's also called a THERMOCOMPENSATED Quartz movement.

Owned a Longines VHP (Very High Precision) once which was fitted with such a quartz movement. Super duper accurate....within 1 second a month....guaranteed.

JJ

frostie · 23 August 2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

That's right...it's also called a THERMOCOMPENSATED Quartz movement.

Owned a Longines VHP (Very High Precision) once which was fitted with such a quartz movement. Super duper accurate....within 1 second a month....guaranteed.

JJ

Thanks for the info JJ

BiG JeEzY · 23 August 2007, 04:38 AM

I heard radio controlled quartz watches are one of the most accurate in the world. Its like having an atomic clock on your wrist. Only less than a second off after one year.

frostie · 23 August 2007, 04:38 AM

somebody is going to answer to our question. Let's be patient and stop confusing ourselves

Stef_Call · 23 August 2007, 04:39 AM

Think it just got answered !!

frostie · 23 August 2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Stef_Call

Think it just got answered !!

You were right from the beginning

roadcarver · 23 August 2007, 04:49 AM

Darn... I missed the party!

frostie · 23 August 2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

Darn... I missed the party!

BiG JeEzY · 23 August 2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

Darn... I missed the party!

You were only about 15 or so minutes late, the party's just getting started up in here!

roadcarver · 23 August 2007, 04:57 AM

LOL! I was busy surfing watchnet.com

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Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

You were only about 15 or so minutes late, the party's just getting started up in here!

Tools · 23 August 2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Crown

An AD told me there was a ranking of watch makers as to how accurate the watches were, along other criteria, with Patek at the top and rolex sitting about #5. ...Thanks
Phillip

A comment by an AD should not be taken as any more than that....

Subjective "polls" and "rankings" are everywhere, as well as unsupported comments and rumors....usually for the purpose of "proving" the sponsors or commentors point...

As an item of interest, Forbes magazine just came out with the 10 "essential" items a man should have in his wardrobe....For a watch it was the Submariner - of course, it also said he should have a pair of Levis 501's and they cost 198 bucks, so take that for what it's worth also.

SPACE-DWELLER · 23 August 2007, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Crown

....with Patek at the top and rolex sitting about #5. Do any of you know what he was reffering to? Would be interesting to check out.
Thanks
Phillip

I saw this "World Rang List" of watches somewhere here on TRF (had it saved as a Word document, but cannot find the link), but on that list, Rolex is "number 5", too:

Tier 1 High End Luxury
a) Patek Phillippe A. Lange & Sohne
b) Audemars Piguet Vacheron Constantin
c) Breguet Glasshutte Original Girrard Perregaux Blancpain
d) Ulysse Nardin Franck Muller Jaeger LeCoultre F.P. Journe

Tier 2 Luxury
a) IWC Rolex Piaget
b) Cartier Chopard Maurice Lacroix
c) Breitling Omega Chronoswiss
d) Bvlgari Zenith

Tier 3 Transitory Luxury
a) Baume & Mercier Raymond Weil
b) Tag Heuer
c)
d)

Tier 4 Basic Luxury
a) Movado Rado
b) Fortis
c) Oris Revue Thommen
d)

frostie · 23 August 2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Spacedweller

I saw this "World Rang List" of watches somewhere here on TRF (had it saved as a Word document, but cannot find the link), but on that list, Rolex is "number 5", too:

Tier 1 High End Luxury
a) Patek Phillippe A. Lange & Sohne
b) Audemars Piguet Vacheron Constantin
c) Breguet Glasshutte Original Girrard Perregaux Blancpain
d) Ulysse Nardin Franck Muller Jaeger LeCoultre F.P. Journe

Tier 2 Luxury
a) IWC Rolex Piaget
b) Cartier Chopard Maurice Lacroix
c) Breitling Omega Chronoswiss
d) Bvlgari Zenith

Tier 3 Transitory Luxury
a) Baume & Mercier Raymond Weil
b) Tag Heuer
c)
d)

Tier 4 Basic Luxury
a) Movado Rado
b) Fortis
c) Oris Revue Thommen
d)

That's intersting info bo thanks for sharing

Tools · 23 August 2007, 09:45 AM

So if you believe that, the Swatch Groups ETA movement watches are in the Tier 1 luxury category and the lowly Rolex and IWC are only able to make it to a Tier 2...

I shoulda bought a Rado and stuck with the basics..

Welshwatchman · 23 August 2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Spacedweller

I saw this "World Rang List" of watches somewhere here on TRF (had it saved as a Word document, but cannot find the link), but on that list, Rolex is "number 5", too:

Tier 1 High End Luxury
a) Patek Phillippe A. Lange & Sohne
b) Audemars Piguet Vacheron Constantin
c) Breguet Glasshutte Original Girrard Perregaux Blancpain
d) Ulysse Nardin Franck Muller Jaeger LeCoultre F.P. Journe

Tier 2 Luxury
a) IWC Rolex Piaget
b) Cartier Chopard Maurice Lacroix
c) Breitling Omega Chronoswiss
d) Bvlgari Zenith

Tier 3 Transitory Luxury
a) Baume & Mercier Raymond Weil
b) Tag Heuer
c)
d)

Tier 4 Basic Luxury
a) Movado Rado
b) Fortis
c) Oris Revue Thommen
d)

UN and GP in the Super Luxury tier?

SPACE-DWELLER · 23 August 2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

UN and GP in the Super Luxury tier?

Well, I did not make that list

But I assume that the list is made on the principles "How many watches made per year" + "in-house movements or not".

Rolex has now in-house movements ONLY, but then again makes about 900,000 watches a year.

Patek has also solely in-house movements but makes FAR less. That makes for a Tier 1.

IWC makes also far less watches than Rolex, but does seldomly make OWN movements, but mostly modifies ETA movements. UN + GP, however, would also use modified NON in-house movements, but movements of higher built quality than ETA's (for example PERRELET movements in GP watches!) and also make fewer watches than Rolex per year. This would put them in a higher tier than Rolex.

supermarz · 23 August 2007, 12:02 PM

hmmm i wonder why breguet is below audemars.... i wouldve thought its the other way around.
franck muller has some nice designs but in my opinion it is overprice for what it is. havign said that though some collectors in asia are crazy about them. i saw franck muller's store when i was in hong kong ....PHWOA.....!! you can almost live in the place.

funny how this luxury tier doesnt really represent the re selling value of the watches. i think patek and rolex are the only two that holds their resell value best out of all. (except for collectors pieces that is put up in auction houses liek sothebys christies etc)

23 August 2007, 03:39 AM	#1
The Crown Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Phillip Location: Boca Raton Watch: SS Submariner Posts: 22	Watch Rankings An AD told me there was a ranking of watch makers as to how accurate the watches were, along other criteria, with Patek at the top and rolex sitting about #5. Do any of you know what he was reffering to? Would be interesting to check out. Thanks Phillip

23 August 2007, 04:18 AM	#3
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	For accuracy (not specifically targetting automatics), I think a superquartz would be at the top of a list. __________________ I'm just a cook...

23 August 2007, 04:38 AM	#11
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	I heard radio controlled quartz watches are one of the most accurate in the world. Its like having an atomic clock on your wrist. Only less than a second off after one year. __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

23 August 2007, 04:49 AM	#15
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Darn... I missed the party! __________________ I'm just a cook...

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23 August 2007, 04:12 AM	#2
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	i have no idea about that. Let's see what the other forum members will say

23 August 2007, 04:23 AM	#4
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	what's the difference of a quartz and a superquatz?

23 August 2007, 04:33 AM	#5
Stef_Call Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Stefan Location: Dublin, Ireland Watch: SS Daytona,GMT IIc Posts: 470	errrrrrr??? I'll take a guess SuperQuartz is more accurate ?? :)

23 August 2007, 04:34 AM	#6
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	So superquartz is more accurate than quartz ?

23 August 2007, 04:35 AM	#7
Stef_Call Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Stefan Location: Dublin, Ireland Watch: SS Daytona,GMT IIc Posts: 470	SuperQuartz compensates for temperature changes which is why it is so much more accurate

23 August 2007, 04:39 AM	#13
Stef_Call Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Stefan Location: Dublin, Ireland Watch: SS Daytona,GMT IIc Posts: 470	Think it just got answered !!

23 August 2007, 09:45 AM	#22
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,490	So if you believe that, the Swatch Groups ETA movement watches are in the Tier 1 luxury category and the lowly Rolex and IWC are only able to make it to a Tier 2... I shoulda bought a Rado and stuck with the basics..

23 August 2007, 12:02 PM	#25
supermarz "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: melbourne Posts: 322	hmmm i wonder why breguet is below audemars.... i wouldve thought its the other way around. franck muller has some nice designs but in my opinion it is overprice for what it is. havign said that though some collectors in asia are crazy about them. i saw franck muller's store when i was in hong kong ....PHWOA.....!! you can almost live in the place. funny how this luxury tier doesnt really represent the re selling value of the watches. i think patek and rolex are the only two that holds their resell value best out of all. (except for collectors pieces that is put up in auction houses liek sothebys christies etc)

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