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garymyman · 22 May 2012, 04:17 PM

I posted a WTB ad for a 16570 a few weeks ago. I received one email, from helsonbronze@hotmail.co.uk. After some back and forth they sent pictures of a black 16570 which looked great. The only problem is that the exact same watch is listed for sale here by member Jacek, who replied that he had never heard of the email address.

Link to his thread:
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=232730

So, watch out for Helson Bronze.

Cheers.

crowncollection · 22 May 2012, 05:56 PM

Good to know

Bangel · 22 May 2012, 09:42 PM

Thanks for the info.

Puffy · 22 May 2012, 10:34 PM

thanks for the heads up...

azguy · 23 May 2012, 12:21 AM

FNFZ4 · 23 May 2012, 06:04 AM

boo

Numismatist · 23 May 2012, 06:06 AM

Ask him to set the watch to a specfic time and send you a pix, see what he does...

garymyman · 23 May 2012, 06:16 AM

I didn't go that far but I did inquire about payment:

Quote:

it has to be via western union or money gram i have reference and am shipping via UPS.

i wait to hear from you.

Western Union: sadly the tell-tale sign of a scammer today.

Numismatist · 23 May 2012, 06:20 AM

Send him a 'picture' of a Western Union payment...

and tell him the money is on its way! Then he'll send you the picture of the watch he has!

rickyslam · 23 May 2012, 06:21 AM

This totally sucks! Good to know. Thanks!

Lmbeauleap · 23 May 2012, 06:30 AM

crucking friminals.

mboverst · 23 May 2012, 06:37 AM

It's amazing how lazy they've gotten...showing such easily identifiable pictures from a well known seller on the very forum they are attempting to perform the scam!

mbuckley · 23 May 2012, 09:03 AM

Just bad people in the world----you think they feel bad or ever have remorse when they stiff someone-----

sleddog · 23 May 2012, 09:26 AM

Thanks for letting the community know about the attempt!

Trouble is, it's a throwaway Email account, and I'd bet he/she has already moved onto another.....

Personally, and as I've said before, do not put your personal details such as Email and telephone number in the body of your listing.
Always require a PM from a member of the forum, and then you know by their stance in the community if you wish to continue in communication.
Not a fool proof direction, but one that stops outsiders from just replying to any ad viewable by the thieves who prey on this type of scam.

garymyman · 23 May 2012, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog

Always require a PM from a member of the forum, and then you know by their stance in the community if you wish to continue in communication.

Great advise. I was wary from the start with this one when he/she asked which face I was looking for before sending pictures - so it's clearly someone who is at least a bit of a WIS, but still a rotten scammer.

azguy · 24 May 2012, 12:28 AM

always be on guard, yesterday I got a very official lloking e-mail from Bank of America requesting that I log in and verify myself.

Problem is, I don't even bank there

22 May 2012, 04:17 PM	#1
garymyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Gray Location: New Orleans Watch: Sub; Ω Posts: 242	Attempted Scam on the WTB Page I posted a WTB ad for a 16570 a few weeks ago. I received one email, from helsonbronze@hotmail.co.uk. After some back and forth they sent pictures of a black 16570 which looked great. The only problem is that the exact same watch is listed for sale here by member Jacek, who replied that he had never heard of the email address. Link to his thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=232730 So, watch out for Helson Bronze. Cheers.

22 May 2012, 05:56 PM	#2
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Good to know __________________ watches many

22 May 2012, 10:34 PM	#4
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	thanks for the heads up... __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

23 May 2012, 06:04 AM	#6
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23 May 2012, 06:06 AM	#7
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Ask him to set the watch to a specfic time and send you a pix, see what he does... __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

22 May 2012, 09:42 PM	#3
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	Thanks for the info.

23 May 2012, 12:21 AM	#5
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23 May 2012, 06:20 AM	#9
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Send him a 'picture' of a Western Union payment... and tell him the money is on its way! Then he'll send you the picture of the watch he has! __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

23 May 2012, 06:21 AM	#10
rickyslam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Ricky Location: City of Sin Watch: Hulk, DaytonaC, DJ Posts: 1,149	This totally sucks! Good to know. Thanks!

23 May 2012, 06:30 AM	#11
Lmbeauleap "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Watch: Franken Posts: 437	crucking friminals.

23 May 2012, 06:37 AM	#12
mboverst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Dallas Posts: 1,683	It's amazing how lazy they've gotten...showing such easily identifiable pictures from a well known seller on the very forum they are attempting to perform the scam!

23 May 2012, 09:03 AM	#13
mbuckley "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Norman, Oklahoma Watch: Exp II Posts: 616	Just bad people in the world----you think they feel bad or ever have remorse when they stiff someone-----

23 May 2012, 09:26 AM	#14
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,930	Thanks for letting the community know about the attempt! Trouble is, it's a throwaway Email account, and I'd bet he/she has already moved onto another..... Personally, and as I've said before, do not put your personal details such as Email and telephone number in the body of your listing. Always require a PM from a member of the forum, and then you know by their stance in the community if you wish to continue in communication. Not a fool proof direction, but one that stops outsiders from just replying to any ad viewable by the thieves who prey on this type of scam. __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

24 May 2012, 12:28 AM	#16
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	always be on guard, yesterday I got a very official lloking e-mail from Bank of America requesting that I log in and verify myself. Problem is, I don't even bank there

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