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Old 5 August 2012, 10:55 AM   #1
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Speedy Pro help

I've been a Rolex Sub guy, but I find myself being drawn to the Speedies from time to time...and I've just about had enough :-) I'm about ready to pull the trigger. However, I've been watching them on TRF and eBay come and go and it seems that the prices tend to fluctuate a bit?! Can anyone point me in the right direction? Maybe a good place to buy from? What is a decent price? Thanks!!
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Old 5 August 2012, 11:03 AM   #2
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Check out the for sale section of the forum. Great watch. I would know :)
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Old 5 August 2012, 11:49 AM   #3
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Old 5 August 2012, 01:59 PM   #4
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Got mine from this fella in Japan - I highly recommend him.

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I think oscar (bodybump) had one in the moment. Try and contact him.
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Old 5 August 2012, 11:23 PM   #6
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Thank you all! And one last thing, I've noticed that there many fans of the 3570.50 - but if I didn't want to be a purist, would anyone recommend a speedy with date or is it just a best bet to stick with this movement? Thanks!
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Old 6 August 2012, 12:36 AM   #7
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Thank you all! And one last thing, I've noticed that there many fans of the 3570.50 - but if I didn't want to be a purist, would anyone recommend a speedy with date or is it just a best bet to stick with this movement? Thanks!
There are many Omega Speedmaster....but their is only one "Speedy" around here!

Here is the line up....Purist or not you really need to decide if ou want Automatic or Handwind movement...

http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/speedmaster/
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Old 6 August 2012, 12:59 AM   #8
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Thank you all! And one last thing, I've noticed that there many fans of the 3570.50 - but if I didn't want to be a purist, would anyone recommend a speedy with date or is it just a best bet to stick with this movement? Thanks!
The Speedmaster range can be a bit of minefield - lots of different grades of movements

1) The Speedmaster Pro - this is the classic Speedmaster, 42mm, handwound movement. The 3570.50 is pretty much identical to that worn on the Moon, and is the purists' favourite. It does have a hesalite (acrylic) crystal, which is softer than sapphire, but I find it gives it more character and warmth. If you feel you must have sapphire, then they do a version with a sapphire crystal both sides, allowing you to see that gorgeous movement

2) Speedmaster Date - this is the entry level Speedmaster, and the only one left in the current range that is Automatic and non-Co-Axial. These come in a 40mm size, and have the added benefit of a Date, but I find they look a little bloated. Not bad as an entry option, but I would take a Pro for the same money

3) Speedmaster 1st Gen Co-Axial - this refers to any model running the cal. 3313, a Piguet movement modified with the Co-Axial escapement. This movement has gotten a reputation as unreliable, although most kinks have been worked out of it now. You can quite a few variants using this movement - they do a Moonwatch-esque model, some inspired by the Broad Arrow, and tend to look quite fresh and modern. All selfwinding, all come with date - can be a little pricey for what they are, however

4) Speedmaster 2nd Gen Co-Axial - right now, there is only one variant using the new cal. 9300 movement, and that is the Moonwatch-esque model with only two subdials. It's a distinctive look, an exceptional movement, and is right up there with brands that specialise in chronographs. Available in steel or gold, availability is still quite low

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Old 6 August 2012, 01:07 AM   #9
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Thanks, GMT Master - that really does help me. I am used to a Rolex, not having to attend to it with the winding as much, but is the manual wind for Omega superior than their automatic? I really don't mind the manual wind, but have gotten quite spoiled with my Sub :)
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Old 6 August 2012, 01:40 AM   #10
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I just bought, then sold two manual wind omega speedy professional "first man on the moon" watches to a member here on TRF. These watches very nice, except they are too large for me.
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Old 6 August 2012, 08:23 AM   #11
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Thanks, GMT Master - that really does help me. I am used to a Rolex, not having to attend to it with the winding as much, but is the manual wind for Omega superior than their automatic? I really don't mind the manual wind, but have gotten quite spoiled with my Sub :)
Well, they're not Chronometer rated - a Chronometer rating is the gold standard of mechanical timekeeping. Any Chronometer rated watch has to be certified by the independent COSC, with the timekeeping tested over 14 days in 5 different positions. Throughout all of this, it has to keep within a -4/+6 seconds per day tolerance, and not vary too much. Indeed, the cal. 1861 used in the Moonwatch is the only non-chronometer rated mechanical movement in the whole Omega range

That's certainly not to diminish it - I've found the timekeeping on mine to be most impressive, it keeps pretty much spot on time, and is easily comparable to my chronometer rated Rolex. It's a solid, classic movement, and has a lot of character - I like the fact it has a slightly lower beat rate

If you're worried about remembering to wind it every day, I've not found it an issue - I often find if I've got a quiet moment, I'll subconsciously give it a wind. It's easy to get into a routine with it

The 1861 has the pedigree and the charm if not the outright performance, and you can't find the base movement in any other watch currently produced (to my knowledge). The basic auto movements are nothing special, and the first gen Co-Ax movements are a little fragile. A cal. 1861 or a cal. 9300 would be my pick of the bunch
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Old 6 August 2012, 10:39 PM   #12
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After more than a decade of owning a Zenith Daytona for daily wear, I bought a Moonwatch. I hardly wear the Daytona anymore, but do miss the automatic movement. The Speedy will easily go 48 hours on a full wind, but I do occasionally forget to do it.

I looked seriously at the 44mm co-axial date with the 3 dial layout, but it was MUCH thicker than the classic - and thicker than all my other watches. I just didn't feel the love for it - even as much as I would like a date function. The 40mm models were not as nicely proportionate as the Moonwatch either.

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